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skipimp_

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something my friend wrote..thought it was awesome:

if it is okay to kill an animal to further life by not starving then

shouldn’t it be okay to kill another human being to further your life

by not

dying?

“People died so we can live the lives we are living” or did people

murder

for the life I’m living so do I want it?

I wasn’t asked whether I wanted people to kill other human beings for

the

comforts of free speech and modern society; is it worth it?

How many lives is ‘nation-hood’ worth?

Is there a hierarchy in human life?

People try to say that war isn’t black and white; that there are grey

areas

and it’s often true, but if we’re going to be the generation that stops

war

we have to make it black and white and say:

WAR IS AN ATROCITY; IN NO SITUATION WILL WE AS A GENERATION SUPPORT IT.

If we don’t make it an option than we will be forced to find other ways

of

solving conflicts; there has to be a paradigm shift in which killing

another

human being is never okay or it will never stop happening.

Life is complex. Mostly these posters are because I want us to do more

than

just glorify soldiers and abhor war for one day a year.

Today I'm remembering the child soldiers in Rawanda and all those who

war

has hurt but I just want people to shift their feelings towards

soldiers.

Feel sympathy for them as victims of war, the way you feel sympathy for

any

other murderer who made recourse to that action because they were ill

informed or didn't have the necessary understanding to do otherwise.

Don't glorify them as the champions of free speech or the free world

(some

guy knocked on my door and was like i'm so angry with you right now,

you

have the right to say these things because of people dying in war...)

BULLSHIT! Maybe cowards can say what they want because of free speech,

but I

have free speech because the things I say are understandings not

beliefs and

I would die for them, so nobody has to 'give me free speech'.

I know in my heart and the pit of my soul that if someone tried at

gunpoint

to force me to go to war I would look them straight in the eyes and

tell

them to kill me before I would kill another human being. That’s because

I

understand, not believe that killing another person is not my place.

Furthermore, there's absolutely no link between free speech and war; we

have

free speech because as a group of people we got together and decided to

write a constitution that guarantees it... you don't need war to do

that...

in fact you don't need war to do anything and as long as there are

people

out there spreading the conception that war is the reason we have free

speech and all kinds of glorifications we will be unable to stop war.

Feel compassion for soldiers as victims of war, but don't respect their

actions, or we will truly 'break faith' with those in Flander's

Fields...

they didn't want us to just fucking remember them once a year! They

want us

to end war and as long as you respect rather than feel sadness at their

position we will never end war...

Ash

PS. I’m not going to end my contemplation of war with Remembrance Day

so as

I think about the complexities of war and post stuff on my door, feel

free

to take a moment: we are the generation that has to end war if we want

to

truly pay homage to its atrocity.

A WORLD WITH NO WAR IS A UTOPIA: This is a self-fulfilling prophecy; if

we

believe it we make it true

To respect soldiers for killing in the past is to say that if we are

challenged again it is appropriate to have another war; is this what

those

soldiers who died in the atrocity of war would want? Or would they want

us

to make sure there are no more wars?

Murder is defined as the intentional and unlawful killing of another

human

being; why have we made it legal for soldiers to kill?

Maybe we believe that there are things for which it is okay to murder?

As long as we believe that there are things worth killing for there

will be

war...

Is it the same to die for something as it is to kill for it?

People die for freedom so we should respect them;

People murder for it so do I want it?

Lots of people have taken offence to these posters and my statement

“Celebrate murderers”. I feel that it is murder to kill another human

being

(whether it’s lawful or unlawful is, for me, besides the point) and so

the

respect paid to war veterans is to me a celebration of murderers. I

don’t,

however, believe that people don’t have the right to partake in it; my

goal

is only that I want people to think about why in this context they are

celebrating murder; is it because there are some things worth killing

for,

like our current lifestyle?

I don’t believe there is anything worth killing for and that’s why I

bring

it up; I don’t want to tell people HOW to think I just want them to

THINK.

Think anything you want but just really consider why you celebrate

killing

in this context and if you come to the conclusion that for you there

are

things worth killing for than that’s fine, at least you’re stopping and

thinking about it.

'There is such a gap between how one lives and how one ought to live

that

anyone who abandons what is done for what ought to be done learns his

ruin

rather than his preservation: for a man who wishes to profess goodness

at

all times will come to ruin among so many who are not good.'

(Machiavelli, The Prince 52)

Does this mean we have to lower ourselves to the level of those who

‘are not

good’ and engage in war?

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
makes ya think, tell him that he is a good writer, and i whole-heartedly support what he is talkin abou

°SamDCaylor°

www.poniverus.com
 
I will..but he's a she. Ashley.

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
more people should read this

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
its a she

and shes the smartest person i know

and yes, she was calling them murderers.

they were.

or killers.

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
anyone who kills someone else is still a killer they took someones life away

Youre not like the others with their empty eyes and plastic smiles
 
hmmmmmmmmm.... its amazing how almost *everyone* this age is liberal.... i dont have time to read that, but i believe the general jist is 'war is baaad! oh no!' so, i decided to boycot this thread. and yet im posting. hmmmmmm

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yeah this one time, I got really wasted, and took the most violent shit ever. serious. my ass and I fought for most of the night, but in the end I was vitorious, until that back stabber attacked after our treaty, and i had to get new boxers - lineskier03

just stand closer to the explosion. it will make it seem biggger.-aoe

 
no, the thread is not about war is bad, it is a description and analysis of what war is and why it exists.

don't comment on something you haven't read.

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
well, i didnt read your whole post, but i think the general jist is 'look at me, i suck'

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yeah this one time, I got really wasted, and took the most violent shit ever. serious. my ass and I fought for most of the night, but in the end I was vitorious, until that back stabber attacked after our treaty, and i had to get new boxers - lineskier03

just stand closer to the explosion. it will make it seem biggger.-aoe

 
shes too young to comment,

for one, she didn't look into human nature, are humans at the most basic level egoistic or altruistic (sp?)?

i believe we are egoistic, i say this for one reason, if two people were lined up on a wall, me and some person i had never seen before in my life , and one of us had to die, no way out of it, and it was my decision, i would say let him die, i will live today. i don't know how many of you can say otherwise, and if you were put in the extraordinary position, what exactly would you say

remembrance day is celebrating not the gruesome part of war, but 'remembering' hence the name, the people died, it is in no way a celebration of murderers, it is in fact remembering the people who have died, she is right in the sense that war should not be the only solution

but to call veterans murderers? she is not wise enough yet to make those calls, she is what first year university student?

oh, and for medals such as victoria cross and the others ones, they aren't rewarded to the person who killed the most, they are rewarded to someone who SAVED the most, they avoided death , they took away some of the death in war, they deserve to be rewarded and their accomplishments celebrated, they did exactly what you said you would do, you said you would rather get shot then go to war, well in a way, these people were putting their life for the peace (life) of others,

if you ask any veteran , i can almost guarantee that they would say war was the worst time of their life, they did not want to go out and kill people, its what they thought they had to do, and you know what , can ANYONE here honestly say that WWII could have been avoided? i don't mean starting back in the 1900's i don't mean starting back in 3000 years bce, i mean in fucking 1939, the date that many countries officialy went to war, do you think that exact day they had the choice of not going to war? what would have happened to todays society? what would have happened to religioN? freedoms, there would not be a jewish population,

you would not be writing that commentary , i think it is completely disrespectful to everyone in society what you have written calling war veterans murderers,

see the thing is, in TODAYS society, war is not the only solution, we have peace as a freedom as a result of what went on before, and yes all the wars recently can be avoided,

i think it is completely justified to say that war is not a solution anymore, because our nature has evolved to the point where we don't need to resort to instincts to survive (our instincts being egoistic (sp?) by nature) because we have a structured society that allows us not to

war is not a recent thing, it has been aroudn as long as humanity, it started as a survival technique with people banding together to make it easier for hunting, i don't know the science about it really but im thinking the first humans probably didn't have the brain capacity to think otherwise than to be savages,

from there war was basically a part of society, and different societys progressed because of war, and that is where art/literature/etc.. was a result of, including what your friend wrote,

so a recent progresssion (1900's) of society is perhaps to deal with these scenarios in a peaveful manner

what your friend failed to mention (from what i saw) are ways of avoiding war, of ways of avoiding WWII, of ways taht WWI could have been avoided, of ways the civil war in the states could have been avoided

i would actually really liek to read some alternatives to some of the wars,

if you are going to say look what ghandi did, well yes his worked, but would you call that peacefull> on his part yes, but on the other sides part, not really, lives were still lost, so it was not entirely a peaceful solution,

so anyways thats what i thought, its not really educated i don't really have credentials to be writing such a piece, but from what i know and what i read this is what i say, so take it for what it is but i just didn't agree completely with what was said

'Keep on rocking in the free world'
 
^ Well put... Ashley's intentions are good and idealistic, but not realistic. Whatever happens we as people cannot deny what we are, no thin veneer of what we might call civilization can alter the human condition. I'd love to write a lot more on this and maybe I will at some point but I don't have time at the moment, so I'll sum up by saying that such optimism is the sort that is entertained by those who do not yet comprehend the situation.

 
but its not ok to kill another animal to prevent yourself from dying, we live in CAPITALIST society, not one based on life or death, but MONEY and POWER.

FUCK ME!
 
lagwagon, this is beyond money and power, this is human nature we are talking about, what you said is not really relevant to the commentary in debate here.

'Keep on rocking in the free world'
 
lagwagon, you're so stupid, money and power are mearly subsects behind the greater life and death. There is a hierarcy.

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Dfresh

good points. period. I don't have much to argue with..this is a huge topic..im hesitant to touch. Ashley's rationale is not flawed, and either is yours. As for vetrans being murderers..that is a statement designed to spark emotion. It is designed to spark interets, thought, and debate. stereotype? maybe, maybe not. No one knows the real 'right and wrongs'. personally I believe there is no such thing as right and wrong. It has taken me a lot of thought and analsis to come to that thought..and it may change as I learn more.

glad to see some people jumping in and voicing theri opinions...it's the whole point of threads.

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
The entire implications of war, killing, and human nature cannot be summed up in a 300 word half assed attempt by a teenage girl. It needs time, expirience and devotion to understand and judge.

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hobo, thats an awfuly easy way to think, it's what I call a 'safe opinion'. Did you really read it? it's good. really good.

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
Some of the most influential discoveries, writing, philosophical advances etc have been made by people aged 18 to 24. Age isn't a reason to discount someone's opinions, it's wholly fallacious. And don't get the 'Is there right or wrong' debate started... I i start on ethics im never going to get any studying done and ill fail my final. You wouldn't read it anyways, it'd be like 5 pages long. Suffice it to say that absolutism in any case should be reexamined.

 
Some of the most influential discoveries, writing, philosophical advances etc have been made by people aged 18 to 24. Age isn't a reason to discount someone's opinions, it's wholly fallacious. And don't get the 'Is there right or wrong' debate started... I i start on ethics im never going to get any studying done and ill fail my final. You wouldn't read it anyways, it'd be like 5 pages long. Suffice it to say that absolutism in any case should be reexamined.

 
I think the best solution is to decentralize the government. it removes much of the incentive for war. Most people are enlightened enough these days to make most government tasks obsolete. We could always start by ditching flags, anthems and propaganda holidays like remembrance day and the 1st/4th of July and replacing them with 'sleep in and bang your girlfrined day'. cuz seriously, I dont wanna hear another vet bitch about war or voting. they got what they asked for. dont stick your hand in the blender then bitch about getting cut.

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'Dude, check out this nasty gouge.'

'Your mom has a nasty gouge.'

im just gonna sling crystal meth so i dont have to get a real job and can afford to ski, with the way my senior year is goin though thats probably one of my few options

-switchskier88
 
Granola eatin', tree huggin' Democrat. Go ahead, pull out your white flags and start your hippie smoke-in for peace, roll over while the Chinese and the Taliban take over your shit and make you their bitches 'cuz you couldn't bring yourself to kill them. Al Qaeda, Iran, North Korea and others don't same your pacifist views. Sure, you can avoid war... just let them show up on your doorstep and allow yourselves to conquered. I wouldn't call the vets murderers, they're the reason you don't speak German and eat schnitzel for breakfast.

 
^ That may be the biggest load of crap ever posted on these forums. I don't agree with her, but that was just idiotic. Yes, let's all stockpile our weapons because we're afraid of other countries, fear has always served us so well historically! Oooooh and you know, those koreans and iraqis, all they do is plot evilly about how they're going to dominate america, twirling their moustaches evilly. Give me a fuckin break. There are warmongerers there just like there are here, and they sound a lot like you. 'We must stockpile weapons or those damn americans are gonna come over here and infringe on our civil liberties!' Fear breeds fear... so I guess you're doing a little inbreeding, buddy. Jeebus. Apparently propaganda works... besides, since when does fuckin Jackie Chan care if the US gets taken over by the Chinese?

 
hmmm...i doubt the koreans or the chinese are 'afraid' of us at all...

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And for America, there will be no going back to the era before September the 11th, 2001 — to false comfort in a dangerous world. We have learned that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength; they are invited by the perception of weakness. And the surest way to avoid attacks on our own people is to engage the enemy where he lives and plans. We are fighting that enemy in Iraq and Afghanistan today so that we do not meet him again on our own streets, in our own cities. - George W. Bush

 
intresting thread, just a simple post to keep tabs on it, lates

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In the shadows of darkness, I stand in the light.

-David

 
Murder is defined by law.

To be a murderer, you must be found guilty of such.

Soldiers who fight during war are legally doing so by the nation and by the geneva convention.

They may be killers, but they are NOT murderers.

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'when one gun can't convince someone, pull out the second' - desson
 
wow, are you saying that we shouldnt be afraid of dictatorships who have nukes and hate the US? ha fuckin ha. this is serious shit, we could (knock on wood)be on the brink of fuckin WWIII. this world is fucked up, and there is no reason that korea cant just nuke the capitol tomorrow. this is serrriiiooouuuusss. i *still* support operation iraqi freedom (please, lets not talk about it in this thread, start another if you wish) and though i dont think that policing the people is the best thing to do at this juncture, i realize that these decisions are being made by a lot of people, much more important or smart than any of us. just remember that.

ps, there are liberals and democrats on bush's cabniet

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yeah this one time, I got really wasted, and took the most violent shit ever. serious. my ass and I fought for most of the night, but in the end I was vitorious, until that back stabber attacked after our treaty, and i had to get new boxers - lineskier03

just stand closer to the explosion. it will make it seem biggger.-aoe

 
flanker.....thats a silly thing to say

They're only murders if the law finds them guilty of it.

what?

If I killed my family in my sleep, and I got away with it, Would I be a murderer?

If I smashed a kids head in with a bat because he had a knife, am I a murderer? If I shot 20 kids in my school and got away with it, Am I a murderer? Apparently not because the law didn't catch me.

People can feel like murderers even if they aren't viewed as such. People feel they are murderers even if everyone else says they weren't.

War is nations murdering each other. Killing, whatever you want to call it.

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
You wouldn't get away with it.

You'd be tried and convicted.

I completely disagree with you and your friends views on war.

You are born into todays society, in your case, living in a 1st world country and then critisize history like it will make a difference.

You weren't alive in 1939, you have NO IDEA on what life was like.

You may have a different point of view if you were a jew living in Poland back then. 'oh please Canadians, British, don't come and stop the nazis. I'm sure they'll stop MURDERING all of us once they own Europe.'

Yesturday I crossed a bridge where the Serbs tied clost to 50 people to the base of the bridge and then blew the bridge up. This happened in the Balkan war. Its pretty fucked up shit, and if it weren't for the Canadians, Brits, American, French, Hungarians all working under NATO, they'd still be MURDERING innocent, unarmed people today.

WAR will happen, its unfortunate, but don't give me any bullshit when a country and its soldiers step up to stop them.

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'when one gun can't convince someone, pull out the second' - desson
 
Dfresh, J.D_May

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Thanks for saving me my long winded post

Just Like The Cool Kids....

I Get Head

'I Love You Spit Bucket' -My Drunk Roommate
 
you're full of shit.

really.

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
Whos full of shit and in what regards?

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Its not the size of the army, but the fury of its onslaught
 
full of shit in the sense that war is inevitable. humans only choose to accept it as inevitable...Was is the end product of decades of anger, unrest and clashes of values.

As if it will make a difference?

I don't criticize history because it will make a difference, I criticize it so we don't keep fuckin KILLING EACH OTHER. Killing people is retarted, as if we're not educated enough as a species to work out issues......we're all fuckin retarted.

No I wouldn't get caught or tried.

Im good.

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
You are living in a fantasy world.

People have been fighting for hundreds of years. Fighting over religion, land, values, etc.

You aren't going to get these people to sit around and 'work out their issues'. Is starting a war the answer, NO. but guess what, thats what happens.

It won't happen because everyone has different values and different levels of education. What makes sense to you, won't neccessarily make sense to another.

You aren't going to change that by taking away any honour or pride from previous war veterans.

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Its not the size of the army, but the fury of its onslaught
 
I agree with flanker. War isn't pretty and nobody likes war. But, its not a part of our society, culture, or to get really specific: country. War is a fundamental property of humans. Humans have not been fighting hundreds or thousans of years, they have been fighting for all existence. And they always will be.

I'm not sure where you're coming from with the ' war is murder' thing. Yes, killing a person is murder. The differences, though, of killing for self defense in a battlefield, and for sick selfish reasons create two entirely different concepts of motive.

War won't ever be changed. We all know its bad. It's useless though to spend too much effort trying to take away war from the human race. It's never going to happen. Flanker is completely right. You're living in a fantasy world when you hope for a warless world.

- Patrick·patproductions.com

Looks like rain to me.
 
Especially in Canada, or the U.S. Should you not be complaining about your right to free speach. You would most likely get shot publically announcing that in most of the world's countries.

- Patrick·patproductions.com

Looks like rain to me.
 
you and flanker get high fives. the thing is, no countries will just solve huge problems by talking. not problems like the nazis and WWI, WWII. it ust doesnt work like that. you seem to think that even if there was world peace, that we would kill people anyway. its not like that. we all hate war, and would do amything to stop it. come on, you know this

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yeah this one time, I got really wasted, and took the most violent shit ever. serious. my ass and I fought for most of the night, but in the end I was vitorious, until that back stabber attacked after our treaty, and i had to get new boxers - lineskier03

just stand closer to the explosion. it will make it seem biggger.-aoe

 
you're making assumptions about me..Did I ever say there could be a war free wrld? That it's a possibility? That Im hoping for it? no. Im just saying how fucking stupid people are. And how fucked hitler was.

even though he wasn't stupid......eugenice..good idea..but we could have found a better way to implement it..like sending all the jews to an island...haha

the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live

The more you want something, the less likely it will happen.

stealin and dealin screamin semen like a demon

Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.

bring Back The 60's!!
 
yah, that wouldve been better, but i guess hitler was to cheap to put a dime out in the carribean....

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And for America, there will be no going back to the era before September the 11th, 2001 — to false comfort in a dangerous world. We have learned that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength; they are invited by the perception of weakness. And the surest way to avoid attacks on our own people is to engage the enemy where he lives and plans. We are fighting that enemy in Iraq and Afghanistan today so that we do not meet him again on our own streets, in our own cities. - George W. Bush

 
ok, so please ski pimp, state *exactly* what you are saying, please, i want to know just how retarded you are. maybe youre an idiot, maybe your smart, i have to know

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yeah this one time, I got really wasted, and took the most violent shit ever. serious. my ass and I fought for most of the night, but in the end I was vitorious, until that back stabber attacked after our treaty, and i had to get new boxers - lineskier03

just stand closer to the explosion. it will make it seem biggger.-aoe

 
from a friend/Captain in the desert:

We knew there was a dinner planned with ambassador Bremer and LTG Sanchez.

There were 600 seats available and all the units in the division weretasked

with filling a few tables. Naturally, the 501st MI battalion got ourtable.

Soldiers were grumbling about having to sit through another dog-and-pony

show, so we had to pick soldiers to attend I chose not to go. But, about

1500 the G2, LTC Devan, came up to me and wit! h a smile, asked me to come

to dinner with him, to meet him in his office at 1600 and bring a camera. I

didn't really care about getting a picture with Sanchez or Bremer, but when

the division's senior intelligence officer asks you to go, you go. We were

seated in the chow hall, fully decorated for thanksgiving when aaaaallllll

kinds of secret service guys showed up. That was my first clue, because

Bremer's been here before and his personal security detachment is not that

big. Then BG Dempsey got up to speak, and he welcomed ambassador Bremer and

LTG Sanchez. Bremer thanked us all and pulled out a piece of paper as if to

give a speech He mentioned that the President had given him this

thanksgiving speech to give to the troops. He then paused and said that the

senior man present should be the one to give it. He then looked at Sanchez,

who just smiled. Bremer then said that we should probably get someone more

senior to read the speech. Then, from behind the camouflage nettin! g, the

President of the United States came around. The mess hall actua lly erupted

with hollering. Troops bounded to their feet with shocked smiles and just

began cheering with all their hearts. The building actually shook. It was

just unreal. I was absolutely stunned. Not only for the obvious, but also

because I was only two tables away from the podium There he stood, less

than thirty feet away from me! The cheering went on and on and on. Soldiers

were hollering, cheering, and a lot of them were crying. There was not a

dry eye at my table. When he stepped up to the cheering, I could clearly

see tears running down his cheeks. It was the most surreal moment I've had

in years. Not since my wedding and Aaron being born. Here was this man, our

President, came all the way around the world, spending 17 hours on an

airplane and landing in the most dangerous airport in the world, where a

plane was shot out of the sky not six days before. Just to spend two hours

with his troops. Only to get on a plane and spend another 17 hours flying

back. It was a gr! eat moment, and I will never forget it. He delivered his

speech, which we all loved, when he looked right at me and held his eyes on

me. Then he stepped down and was just mobbed by the soldiers. He slowly

worked his way all the way around the chow hall and shook every last hand

extended. Every soldier who wanted a photo with the President got one. I

made my way through the line, got dinner, then wolfed it down as he was

still working the room. You could tell he was really enjoying himself. It

wasn't just a photo opportunity. This man was actually enjoying himself! He

worked his way over the course of about 90 minutes towards my side of the

room. Meanwhile, I took the opportunity to shake a few hands. I got a

picture with Ambassador Bremer, Talabani (acting Iraqi president) and

Achmed Chalabi (another member of the ruling council) and Condaleeza Rice,

who was there with him I felt like I was drunk. He was getting closer to

my table so I went back over to my seat. As he pass! ed and posed for

photos, he looked my in the eye and 'How you doin,' c aptain.' I smiled and

said 'God bless you, sir.' To which he responded 'I'm proud of what you do,

captain.' Then moved on.

 
Some good stuff Simon. The Hillary visit was a total flop. She showed up late, which meant that all of the soldiers had to wait for their dinner. When she did finally show up she cut to the front of the line. When reporters asked soldiers to comment on the situation troops said that they don't want their thoughts on Hillary and her visit transcribed as they would not be pretty comments. One soldier who was asked the same question just talked about Bush's visit...again, good stuff.

Taste Death. Live Life.
 
i just read the original post....skipimp that is total crap. it was definately written by someone thinking too much without sufficient knowledge of their own. looks like a 16 year old wrote it.

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