Wanting a bombproof setup for 2011

Scrambles

Scrambles

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as almost all of my equipment has broken this season, i feel that for 2011, i want equipment that will actually hold up for more than 2 months.

i am planning on having:

-my current fulltilt hotdoggers, but with metal buckels so they dont fail

-look pivots which were just mounted on my atomics after going through 2 pairs of px12's

-moment reno jibs

-moment outerwear

after doing some reasearch i have come to the conclusion that this is the most durable equipment on the market(except the moment outerwear as thats new, but its been tested, im hoping lol). is there any opinions, or more durable equipment you would reccomend? i will welcome critisism
 
^ bingo.

in my experience, k2 along with line and volkl have some extremely bombproof stuff.

i would recommend them to anyone.
 
-my current fulltilt hotdoggers, but with metal buckels so they dont fail

-look pivots which were just mounted on my atomics after going through 2 pairs of px12's

-k2 domain

-moment outerwear(trew would be mega sweet but i cant drop 700 in outerwear)
 
I wanted some bombproof binders for park so I use oldschool Salomon 997 Equipe's, heavy but super solid. Sounds like a bear trap when clicking in.
 
i got k2 and i agree you can trash them and theyll last longer than most skis. definetly go with k2 especially with the sick graphics and rocker on ALL their skis.
next year's k2 line is gonna be so dope
 
I'd say Moments have just as good durability as K2. My reno jibs were bombproof.
 
... night trains are a fat, pow ski, revivals are a rockered park ski, and reno jibs are a cambered park ski, not realy comparable
 
Consider the AR7s also, The AR6 is one of the most bombproof skis out there right now and with the cap/sidewall construction on the AR7 they should be even more durable.
 
the reason i want to say no is because i plan on centre mounting these, so i want to get a symetrical ski.

also, are there any durability issues with trew, saga, lethal decent or orage outerwear?
 
Crap err cap ski construction has never been bombproof. If it was more manufactuers would be making them, but 333 makes a great crap ski
 
Orage is back with Gore-Tex year.... most durable gear I have ever skied in....been riding exclusively on Orage for the last 6 years
 
dude right on with the moments, second seson with mine and i love em so sick, if u were tearing out px12 the person who mounted em might have used to big bit just get the new fks'if your really lookin to drop some dough
 
saga is not so great durability-wise

my friend fell on this little box and tore the whole ass of his pants
 
not suspects...thats all i can say. i don't ride them but i have had two friends break new ones this year
 
ahh, that makes sense.
And to the kid who was talking about cap durability, Armada has been making both cap and sidewall skis for a while now, the El Ray is a cap ski, and the PC and AR6 are sidewall, all 3 of which are super durable.
 
I have saga pants...
i love the fit, they are super water proof
as for durability
they only problem i seem to have is from where i have had a crash/slide out they have kinda worn in that area a little. nothing serious
 
I have mine center mounted, they still ride amazing. I'd have to agree with AR6 or AR7 because fuck man im bigger and fall hard and beat my skis to shit, take bad care of them, and jessus there still in mint condition. other then a few top sheet chips and dulled edges, these things are still in mint condition. I haven't waxed my skis for 4 months and there still faster then everyone else's. Deffenetly look into them.
 
Go to the SIA day 3 post on the main page
There is a whole video of the k2 factory line
Schmies gives you a full run down of the K2 domain in that.
 
If you're looking at a bomber park ski you should check out the Blue Steele and the Jeronimo, all of the ON3P lineup have 1.7 mm edges, extra thick base material and light, poppy and strong bamboo cores.
 
lol since when was volkl bombproof.. as far as I know volkl skis tend to fall apart after just a few years especially edges. they are damn good skis and i have a lot of pairs, but there long term quality isnt one of their good aspects
 
But compared to 3.5 on k2, and even 2.5 on Armada and Line(I think, I measured)? JJ's have 1.7 and they look thin as hell. I would be interested in the Blue Steele though, no hate towards ON3P
 
my trew suit is so dope. i heard they were gonna drop the prices next year also, the higher prices this year was to help the company get up and running, dont hold me to it though
 
Why do people assume because it has gore-tex it's going to be good
Our work jackets are the North face summit series and it sucks balls in the snow/rain just get saturated.
Yet my 2 season old volcom jacket with 7k Waterproofing keeps me dry...

 
Knowing my work... most likely... cheap cunts.
The managers all have top of the line Arc'teryx jackets.. yet we stand outdoors all day in crappy northface
 
they just have 1 park ski next year? i thought they had like 3 new ones. anyways i am extremely impressed with my K2's. super-bombproof and they slay the park.
 
1.7mm THICK, not wide. 2.5mm wide.

Edges are funny because people always list the width like it is

something revolutionary. 2.5mm thickness (which is what we use) isn't

that much wider than standard, which is 2.2mm. 1.7mm wide is, as you

said, thin as hell.

The reason 1.7mm wide stuff is used is to save on weight

But companies always list width, which is definitely important, but it isn't everything. Thickness is also super important, and somewhere we wanted to separate ourselves.

ON3P uses a 2.5mm wide x 1.7mm thick edge. It means we also need to

get base material that is thicker than standard (1.3mm). This might

not sound like that much of a difference, but it gives you 30% more

edge/base material to protect your skis from core shots and from damage

from rails/boxes/etc over the standard stuff most companies are using.

I've spent a lot of time talking with Crown, Isosport, CDW, and MD and

these are literally the thickest edges I can get without going

completely custom, which I can tell you would require a HUGE order of edge material, something that is just out of the question for us..

A lot of companies don't like going up to 1.7mm thick stuff from 1.3mm

because it does add weight. I value durability over weight, so it is

what we use.

Here is a photo of some ON3P edges compared to the edges from another freeride ski. Their edges aren't thin at all, so no reason to crap on their edge width and thickness, but I think you can tell that the edge ON3P isn't a little bitch edge either...

ON3P on top in both photos....

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If you do wanna see some funny stuff, I can get some photos sometime of our 2.5mm x 1.7mm edges against some 1.7mm wide edges.
 
Wait 'till next year to buy buckles, My buckle broke on the slider thingy and my shop said that Full tilt is getting feedback and will have a better type of buckle next year that won't break so much
 
HA HA HA

learn to ski hard and you will start ripping bindings out like mad.

unless they have started using a new core, the skis are very week internaly and tend to break down pretty quick.

 
Ah, that I did not know haha. Those edges look burly as hell. I'm definitely considering blue steels for my next skis now. I'm not a fan of thin edges, and those sure as hell are not thin. I'm going to take a wild guess and say line uses the same size edge? I measured and it seems to be 2.5 x a little over 1.5.

And I gonna take a stab at that other brand, fischer? I can't think of any ski that has a white base, at least not this years model. Afterbangs? But I know Line uses thick edges as I said before, but I could be wrong.
 
I would honestly say that is seems most people don't know that. It is just marketing when you get down to it. It is funny though when you see some of the "huge, massive, double wide" edges being marketed out there and they are pretty tiny.

 
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