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I was kind of away from NS for a while during the fall to finish up my final semester of college, but I feel like even still I would have seen something about this before. XGames just released an edit with Henrik and he's doing some pretty fucked up stuff in it. Including a rodeo/flat/cork/who the fuck knows 180 safety at 2:52 that seems to break physics into a million pieces. Either this is new footage, or I've been even more out of it that I thought...

 
I haven't seen this one yet, but Lolo did the best cork 180 of all time 10ish years ago
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*edit* oops...I broke it even worse, haha. Back to the original.

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13615186:saskskier said:
I haven't seen this one yet, but Lolo did the best cork 180 of all time 10ish years ago
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13615189:jca said:
flat/bio 180... damnnnnnn

Lolo's cork 180 is still the best though.
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I know Lolo did it a while ago, but it's such a rare trick that whenever it's done there's usually a big deal made about it - like with that Russian guy last winter. Plus, the way Henrik does this one seems really different than Lolo's, he stops and reverts back the other direction. I just don't know how I missed this if it isn't new, ha.
 
Damn, I'd call that a flat 180.

I'd seen other shots in that before but none from the prime park session. His rotations are all just fucked good god
 
do you guys ever think to yourself how fucking ill it would be to live henrik's life? just throwing more than difficult tricks effortlessly and with copious amounts of steeze? yeah me too
 
13615189:jca said:
flat/bio 180... damnnnnnn

Lolo's cork 180 is still the best though.
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It's still not a "180" he does a full flip, hence its at least a 360. Please stop calling tricks with 540 degrees of rotation a 180.
 
13615320:eheath said:
It's still not a "180" he does a full flip, hence its at least a 360. Please stop calling tricks with 540 degrees of rotation a 180.
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So if I do a legit cork 3 and before landing, revert 180, is it a cork 1 or a 5?
 
13615333:GNARLY_BARLEY said:
So if I do a legit cork 3 and before landing, revert 180, is it a cork 1 or a 5?
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I'm not referring to a corked rotation, im refering to a flipping rotation.

But, in that case, it would be neither, it would be a cork 3 revert, or something like that.
 
13615340:eheath said:
I'm not referring to a corked rotation, im refering to a flipping rotation.

But, in that case, it would be neither, it would be a cork 3 revert, or something like that.
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That makes sense
 
Regardless of what that was (it did look a little more like a flip thing than a cork 180 thing), I'm pretty sure Harlaut's doubles are the only ones I like. He seems to be one of the only guys out there putting odd, weird and creative rotations into into the mix.
 
13615372:SammyDubz said:
Jossi's carved dubs??!!?!?!?
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Touche. I like everything Jossi does. I guess it would be more accurate to say there are a tiny few people I actually enjoy watching do doubles. Harlaut is one of them.
 
13615320:eheath said:
It's still not a "180" he does a full flip, hence its at least a 360. Please stop calling tricks with 540 degrees of rotation a 180.
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This isn't right it'd be a 180 because he never fully flips he stops half way. But id call it an under flip 180 not really set like a flatspin in my opinion
 
13615514:schjf said:
Watch the skiers head as he is in the air. it only rotates 180 degrees..
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13615535:BrucetheShark said:
This isn't right it'd be a 180 because he never fully flips he stops half way. But id call it an under flip 180 not really set like a flatspin in my opinion
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His body flips one time, he does at least a 360.

Tricks like these aren't defined by the amount of rotation they do. It is in no way a 180.
 
13615542:eheath said:
His body flips one time, he does at least a 360.

Tricks like these aren't defined by the amount of rotation they do. It is in no way a 180.
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I disagree but that's just me, if you're seeing that it's more than 180 then to each their own. I respect that.
 
13615320:eheath said:
It's still not a "180" he does a full flip, hence its at least a 360. Please stop calling tricks with 540 degrees of rotation a 180.
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lmao if thats a 540 you're smokin on the loudest kush
 
The problem with this is the flip vs spin debate. In a flat you technically don't flip so it could be classified as a 180
 
13615565:SDrvper said:
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree.

He never goes fully inverted, making it a true "flat", and his fails to rotate past 180 degrees.

I understand the concept of a flip is a 360, but you aren't applying it properly, just denying the fact that the trick is a flat 180 and not providing any explanation or what you think the actually is isn't really convincing.
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Every rotation that is a "flip" counts the flip as a rotation, I'm applying the definition just fine. Flat 3 is called a 360 is because you do a fucking 360, the axis of a rotation doesn't define if you "count it" or not.
 
13615575:eheath said:
Every rotation that is a "flip" counts the flip as a rotation, I'm applying the definition just fine. Flat 3 is called a 360 is because you do a fucking 360, the axis of a rotation doesn't define if you "count it" or not.
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No.. I'm pretty sure the reason ts called a flat 3 is because if its a true flat 3 its precisely what the name implies, 360 degrees of rotation in the form of a flatspin.
 
13615575:eheath said:
Every rotation that is a "flip" counts the flip as a rotation, I'm applying the definition just fine. Flat 3 is called a 360 is because you do a fucking 360, the axis of a rotation doesn't define if you "count it" or not.
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a lot of people disagree, but in the end nobody really cares what you call the trick. we all know it was sick, and there's no reason to be a trick nazi and turn the thread into a shitstorm of trick classification. regardless of what anybody says most people are goin to call it a flat 1.

thats just my 2 cents
 
13615588:yungsteeze said:
a lot of people disagree, but in the end nobody really cares what you call the trick. we all know it was sick, and there's no reason to be a trick nazi and turn the thread into a shitstorm of trick classification. regardless of what anybody says most people are goin to call it a flat 1.

thats just my 2 cents
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YES
 
13615603:SDrvper said:
I completely understand what you are trying to say, and you would be correct if we were talking about a rodeo, but this is a flatspin.

A flat rotation is not an inverted trick, and by definition not a flip, making it possible to do a rotation that is under 360 degrees, end of story.

I'm not trying to come at you with these posts, but you aren't right.
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No one does a flat spin the way you just described it other than a very select few. A flat spin is still a 360 rotation anyways, any other variation would be "corked". If someone throws a flat 3, flops their body around to land backwards, they probably were doing something closer to a cork 180. Get what I'm saying? Flat/rodeo defines a flip, like I said if you watch a mark abma or Eric Pollard flat 3, they're still 'flipping' just not necessarily inverted. Just because you don't go inverted doesn't mean you're not flipping and doing a 360 through that flip. A true flat 3 is the same rotation as a rodeo, just off axis and that's why you can't have a flat 180, period.

The trick posted earlier called 'flat 180' was most certainly a flip, even if he just leaned his head to the side, he's still flipping. Just because someone does a trick and contorts their body doesn't mean they're on a different axis or whatever you're trying to describe.
 
Henrik is the man! Edit was filthy and that trick was mind blowing. I'm always most excited to see him out of anyone at a big comp. He speaks the truth, "we gotta show how ill and style skiing can be!"
 
Most PC answer. FLat 270 pretz 90. Not fully inverted but theres full 360 for you eheath. He clearly sets flat and clearly doesnt do a full three and then reverts to switch mid air. MADD steez and air awareness
 
13615903:Condorobrien said:
Most PC answer. FLat 270 pretz 90. Not fully inverted but theres full 360 for you eheath. He clearly sets flat and clearly doesnt do a full three and then reverts to switch mid air. MADD steez and air awareness
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The rotation isn't defined by his horizontal axis only, you guys suck at reading.
 
13615320:eheath said:
It's still not a "180" he does a full flip, hence its at least a 360. Please stop calling tricks with 540 degrees of rotation a 180.
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dunno why you're being downvoted so hard because you're right. kids these days are ignorant af i guess.
 
13615980:eheath said:
The rotation isn't defined by his horizontal axis only, you guys suck at reading.
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I'm in total agreement with this one sentence but you haven't disproven what is said. You said earlier in the thread that cork 180 and 3 are possible becasue they arent flips. I'm saying he's doing a true flat and not flipping (unlike alot of backlip japans people do calling them flat 3s) and basically doing a cork1 but with his belly up instead of down. hence flat not cork.

BUT! I dont care anymore what people call this! Names Don't Matter. henrik and tight and lets just respect his arial wizardry!
 
13615980:eheath said:
The rotation isn't defined by his horizontal axis only, you guys suck at reading.
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Dude by your logic a flat 5 should be called a flat 9. Flips don't count as spins, if somebody did a backflip and landed switch would you call it a backflip 540? Of course not, because it's a backflip 180.
 
13616005:DIX~ said:
Dude by your logic a flat 5 should be called a flat 9. Flips don't count as spins, if somebody did a backflip and landed switch would you call it a backflip 540? Of course not, because it's a backflip 180.
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A flat/rodeo 5 is a backflip with a 180 that is off axis. A flip is 360 plus the 180 rotation = flat/rodeo 5.
 
13616098:eheath said:
A flat/rodeo 5 is a backflip with a 180 that is off axis. A flip is 360 plus the 180 rotation = flat/rodeo 5.
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Yo stop arguing about this man. You can't win. Haha jesus. What do you do all day to have the time to argue with kids about what flip Henrik is doing. WHO FUCKING CARES, it was sick.
 
This whole arguement about what trick Henrik did already happened 27 weeks ago when he posted a vid of him doing the same trick on roller blades into a foam pit.
 
13616098:eheath said:
A flat/rodeo 5 is a backflip with a 180 that is off axis. A flip is 360 plus the 180 rotation = flat/rodeo 5.
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Nah. A rodeo 5 is a 540 degree rotation around an axis that we've as skiers decided to call "rodeo". It's not a backflip 180, that's why we call it a rodeo
 
13616107:FrenchFry said:
Yo stop arguing about this man. You can't win. Haha jesus. What do you do all day to have the time to argue with kids about what flip Henrik is doing. WHO FUCKING CARES, it was sick.
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im not agruing, im stating fact, not my fault these guys are clueless. You are also clueless because were not even talking about henrik.
 
13616123:eheath said:
im not agruing, im stating fact, not my fault these guys are clueless. You are also clueless because were not even talking about henrik.
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You're just butt hurt angry guy hey.
 
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