Vote - helmets

always. 3 different models - a protec for when its hot out, a burton red for most of the winter and giro full face dh helmet for really haggard or extreme cold.
 
if im riding with my buddys we're usually doing some big shit so the helmet is on...if im by myself or with my gf its off and i am wearing my ec headwear beanie
 
always

unless im filming or fixing the park. sometimes ill be like yeah were going out to do a rake run and then we drop off the rakes and i dont get a helmet and ski without it. thats prob not good now that i think of it
 
did yall know that a ski helmet is only functional up to about 14mph. bike helmets are also useless after 38mph. skate hemets are about 6mph
 
claim much?

yea i guess seth just wears a helmet to look cool when he does double backs off 60 footers...

do us a favor and quit makin worthless comments..

there is no "speed limit" to how a helmet will function

it only depends on how hard you fall not how fast your goin

 
haha and i didnt even realize this til i already posted but you have got to be the biggest poser in the world...

you just said YALL!!!!

stay in texas and leave the skiing to the people who actually know how to ski.

and snowplowing down the mt doesnt count. sorry nice try tho
 
I know I should more, but I almost never do, unless I am doing something sketch and feel I need it.
 
And maybe you should check yourself before you burn somebody, I live about 35 minutes away from you in Leadville, CO, not Texas. All you would of had to do was check my profile to see that, but instead you were too busy wacking off to Ski Porn...
 
haha ok??

im not even gonna say anything. ill let your horrible picture and bitchy attitude do all the talking...

i didnt realize why you would post something so stupid like that untill i looked again and realized you were a girl.

shit happens. it sucks doesnt it?

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haha POSER!!!!
 
I wouldn't be surprised if she skied better than you. You're the only one being a little bitch. All she did was throw out some info on helmets, whether its right or not is irrelevant to the fact that she shouldn't be flamed on for contributing to the thread.

I'll take it a step further and say that I have always hated wearing helmets. Not only are they heavy but they can fuck up your neck in a fall more than they protect your head. I have always worn one until I took a fall that completely fucked up my neck for around 2 weeks that I couldn't ski. If I hadn't been wearing that piece of shit I would never have gotten hurt. Since I've stopped wearing them I have yet to hit my head hard enough to warrant the use of a helmet. Sure, I've hit my head but they've all been soft blows that probably would have hurt more if I had had this awkward plastic shell on my head. Most of the falls I have I hit sideways so my shoulders take the hit while I'm able to keep my head from being hit because it has no extra weight or size. To top that off, I fucking hate chinstraps.

I'm going to give the Smith Holt a try but if it doesn't work for me I'm just going to give helmets amiss altogether.
 
I wear one all the time, mandatory in my park.

P.S. I just bought a huge poster version of your icon last week and it is so dope.
 
I'm not entirely sure why you decided to oppose my statement. I went to college to learn about shit like this, and calling me a Texan is a huge slap in the face. I was born and raised in VT and have been skiing since I was two. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you about whether or not I am a poser, I am not entirely sure what I have said/what you have seen that shows I am a poser in any way. I have ski pics in my profile, unlike a lot of gals on here. How does that make me a poser? Oh, I'm standing in Abasin's parking lot after it closed that day! WOW I am such a poser! I chill and drink beer after I ski!

And if you want to make this a war then go ahead, try to prove I am a poser. You can pretty much ask me anything about ski lifts, snowmaking, a snowcat, hydraulics, terrain parks, heavy equipment. I can tell you a lot and I have a lot of useful information to offer people. I am not sure why you decided to single me out as a poser, I am pretty much the complete opposite of a poser, I am a ski area guru. Sorry about the rant boys and girls, sometimes you need to prove your religion.

All helmets are protective only to a certain point, wether it be a ski, motercyle, or bike helmet:

"One of the most common criticisms of ski and snowboard helmets is that they supposedly only protect the wearer from impacts occurring while skiing in the range of 11 to 14 mph (17.7 to 22.5 km/h), while studies have shown that skiers typically average around 27 mph (43.5 km/h). This conclusion is derived from the specified impact velocities in the CE, ASTM and Snell tests. It is often used as part of a highly misleading argument against the efficacy of current ski helmets. In a word, it's a myth.

Under the ASTM and Snell standards, ski helmets are tested in 2 meter drops that achieve about 14 miles per hour (22.5 km/h) at impact, onto a flat anvil. Motorcycle helmets are routinely tested using 3 meter drops which acheive about 17 mph (27.36 km/h), yet it is widely accepted that motorcycle helmets have proven to provide substantial protection against brain injury at much higher speeds. It should be noted that the differential between motorcycle helmet drop rig test speeds and the average speed of motorcycle riders is far higher than the differential between the ski helmet test speeds, and average skier speeds. And yet no one seriously questions the efficacy of motorcycle helmets, there is simply too much data proving their effectiveness.

It should also be noted that bicycle helmets are tested using the same 2 meter drops as ski helmets, and like skiers, bicyclists frequently exceed 14 mph in forward speed, yet the famous 1998 case-control study of the effectiveness of bicycle safety helmets by Thompson and Patterson, indicated that bicycle helmet use reduces the risk of head injury by 85%, brain injury by 88% and severe brain injury by at least 75%. The Thompson and Patterson study also showed that this protection extended to crashes involving a variety of causes, and at higher speeds, including collisions with fixed and moving objects, such as cars and trucks. In addition, since the time of the Thompson and Patterson study, there have been at least six independent studies published which have conclusively shown that bicycle helmets are effective in protecting against head injuries in a variety of accident scenarios. (Hagel, et al)

Simply put, both helmet wearing bicyclists and motorcycle riders routinely ride much, much faster than the apparent capability of their helmets to protect-- at least as far as a literal reading of helmet test standards would indicate. In reality, there is overwhelming real-world data and clinical experience which has clearly shown that these helmet wearers benefit from significant protection in collisions, even at much higher speeds."

Link:

http://www.telemarktips.com/Helmets.html
 
ummm, scully?

why did you tell us this:

"did yall know that a ski helmet is only functional up to about 14mph. bike helmets are also useless after 38mph. skate hemets are about 6mph"

then post and article saying that was a myth?

"This conclusion is derived from the specified impact velocities in the CE, ASTM and Snell tests. It is often used as part of a highly misleading argument against the efficacy of current ski helmets. In a word, it's a myth.

 
In a way yes it is a myth but only because all helmets, whether they be ski bike or motercycle helmet only protect to a certain point. Just read the article, it says it right in there. In a ski helmut case, It only protects to 14mph, whereas the average skier goes about 27mph. Motercycle helmets and bike helmets also on protect to a certain point, but people still wear them, just like we skiers do. A helmet will prevent your skull from being shattered or crushed but it most certainly will not prevent you from having a concussion if you are going over 14mph. It will offer about as much protection as a cardboard box! Yes helmets prevent a lot of head injuries, in fact of about 100 head related ski deaths, 35 of those people are wearing helmets. Which is a 35% chance that a helmet will not protect you...I'm again rambling, we did about 6 classes on helmets and risk management so im just throwing you guys the shit i learned at this point
 
i was thinkin the same thing

oh and skully...none of your pics prove that its you with the exception of one. and your not even skiing in it. your walkin back up the hill

 
wtf? yeah i post pics of other girls skiing so i can pretend its me! I am in college for SKIIING! I think that someone who devotes their life to skiing doesnt deserve to be called a poser or a texan. Why are you so bent on burning me? I have a lot of information to offer. All you are doing is denying every single point I lay down. Oh my god. I am a girl. I ski. I am in school for skiing! She must be lying! Get over it. It's okay. What else do you want to know?
 
1. just cuz i just joined NS and my stupid status says im a newb/wannabe doesnt mean i am. iv been skiin since i could stand and i only recently heard about NS and thats why i havent been on here wasting my life like 99% of you people. Id rather go ski

2. i was right bout your pics...you cant tell that its you doin all that.

3. i havent insisted on burning you. i said one thing bout your BS helmet comment which is totally false regarless of whether you went to "school" for it or not.

 
Skully, Did you actually read the article you posted? Of course helmets only protect to a certain point... but the myth you are trying to perpetuate is that that certain point is the speed at which the helmet is dropped in the test. But the article you posted clearly states:

Simply put, both helmet wearing bicyclists and motorcycle riders routinely ride much, much faster than the apparent capability of their helmets to protect-- at least as far as a literal reading of helmet test standards would indicate. In reality, there is overwhelming real-world data and clinical experience which has clearly shown that these helmet wearers benefit from significant protection in collisions, even at much higher speeds."

Understand yet skully? Stop with the myth and actually read the article that YOU posted and believe it. Bottom line if you still dont get it...Helmets are proven to protect at higher speeds then they are dropped in the tests.

Bullshit you took six classes on helmets and risk management :P

 
If you dont belive me thats fine. If you want the proof go bomb down a hill at 40mph and tell me you dont get a concussion if you're wearing a helmet and you fall. Helmets dont protect past a certain speed. They will stop your skull from shattering but you will still get a concussion. End of story.

Still dont belive me? I can get my goddam risk management teacher, an outdoor sports lawyer of 25 years (James Moss; look him up), to post his book online to prove it to all you haters.

But I'm sure a few people on this site have hit a booter and gotten a concussion, even if they were wearing a helmet. I am one of them. The fact is, yes, helmets do provide protection, but only to a certain point and only if many factors line up (like if the helmet fits you perfectly or not).

I'm not sure why we are arguing. Even if my professors were wrong, which would make me wrong as well, a lot of people can say they've gotten a concussion while wearing a helmet, which still proves a point.
 
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