Vishnu Plus or Keys?

lakebed

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Hey guys, i’m struggling to decide between these two as I can’t find flex numbers for the keys. However looking at reviews they seem to be pretty close to what i want. I am ok at park, i can 270 on and off both ways (most of the time),and am looking for a ski that will rip in the park. However i also want it to be a lot of fun on the general mountain, this is why im leaning towards the keys, especially because im inly 5”7’ and 125lbs and the softer ski would be easier to flex and whatnot. I do have a dedicated big mountain setup, but still want my park skis to be enjoyable and relatively capable when me and my homies wanna rip some groomers or even a bit of off piste later in the day or something, thanks guys
 
14571594:SchizoSkier said:
Keys are sick mine were so fun. They’re still insanely soft

were they chiller on off piste? Obviously need to put more work in to rip em, but can you?
 
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i skied this on mine, it was possible but not super pleasant. For normal off piste they get bounced fairly hard because they are so light, but they can be fun in bumps. If youve got strong enough legs youll be fine. I have a review on here if you're intrested in reading it.

14571598:lakebed said:
were they chiller on off piste? Obviously need to put more work in to rip em, but can you?
 
14571614:Celery said:
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i skied this on mine, it was possible but not super pleasant. For normal off piste they get bounced fairly hard because they are so light, but they can be fun in bumps. If youve got strong enough legs youll be fine. I have a review on here if you're intrested in reading it.

Sweet, thanks man. Think gonna pull the trigger on a pair
 
topic:lakebed said:
Hey guys, i’m struggling to decide between these two as I can’t find flex numbers for the keys. However looking at reviews they seem to be pretty close to what i want. I am ok at park, i can 270 on and off both ways (most of the time),and am looking for a ski that will rip in the park. However i also want it to be a lot of fun on the general mountain, this is why im leaning towards the keys, especially because im inly 5”7’ and 125lbs and the softer ski would be easier to flex and whatnot. I do have a dedicated big mountain setup, but still want my park skis to be enjoyable and relatively capable when me and my homies wanna rip some groomers or even a bit of off piste later in the day or something, thanks guys

189 wets?
 
Like my keys a lot, super soft like schizo said. I think based on arbitrary flex scales from other reviews they’re still stiffer than the pluses I think but not totally sure on that, haven’t tried them myself. I think they still feel on the smaller side length-wise like the wets with the pretty significant tip rocker still and mount point of -1

In the park, obviously they’re sick. Very light and pretty durable imo. They seem stable enough for me. Groomers they’re alright, kinda sucky on hard pack as you might expect with any ski with a rounded off small effective edge. They’re again ok in bumps and trees but can get tossed around like the guy above said. In steep trees with fresh snow I hated these things, not the right tool. Overall I liked them a lot, would consider wet+ when my keys die. Idk about the wide+ but that’s not my taste for a park ski and I’d rather have something else at that width
 
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