14526350:muffMan. said:Money talks
14526370:KilaTsunami said:Hahaha I cooked em today on the one with the pool n young snow backed me up. Felt good man.
14526375:Craw_Daddy said:Cry more you little bitch
14526372:tutipups said:u won the comment section
topic:tutipups said:Anybody else get fucking pissed every time they see the newschoolers insta account promoting virtika, like fuck off man.
14526378:Quaggy said:We're quick to jump on David Lesh and his antics, but just as quick to turn a blind eye to the modern day slavery utilized to create our modern convinces.
14526653:IsaacNW82 said:Frankly, Lesh is a dick, but Virtika has the same core business model of almost all outerwear companies, which is to outsource production to China/Vietnam/Bangladesh/Indonesia and carry on your brand image as a "mountain company by mountain people for mountain people" or whatever and hope people don't notice.
I guess to me, the glaring problem of "are the people sewing my snow pants living in abject poverty and am I encouraging it by buying this product?" is a huge and industry wide problem, so Lesh riding a snowmobile where he shouldn't or photoshopping himself pooping into a lake or whatever seems kinda trivial
14526655:SofaKingSick said:even if they're the exact same supply chain etc (which i really doubt), patagonia for example makes high quality gear that they encourage you to repair rather than replace, and the owner bought like 10 million acres of land for a national park
meanwhile lesh makes mediocre gear and crashes planes for attention. i don't think i'm following you; there are lots of companies to give your money to and virtika isn't a good one
i'm 100% fine with them sponsoring NS though, that's a win for both parties
14526674:IsaacNW82 said:FWIW I actually think Patagonia is one of the better companies in the industry still. I mean, to my knowledge, nobody else even bothered to look to see if they had humans rights abuses in their supply chain
14526378:Quaggy said:Here's my experience with Virtika: quality gear that's worth the price if you get it during one of their sales.
Back when I was a struggling college student at Bridger/Big Sky University, Virtika kept me warm in the cold Montana Winters and dry during my winter and spring breaks to Mt. Hood.
Their customer service sent me a new pair of pants after I ripped the crotch on a pair that was 3 years old.
I have since moved on from my Virtika days, but I had nothing but positive experiences with their gear.
We're quick to jump on David Lesh and his antics, but just as quick to turn a blind eye to the modern day slavery utilized to create our modern convinces.
If someone was looking for quality gear on the cheap, one of the first places I'd tell 'em to look is Virtika during a summer sale.
>inb4 hate
14526657:signtime said:The outrage people are schmucks with a false sense of moral superiority.
14526822:Static said:Patagonia is hypocritical as fuck, they don't support skiing, they actively work to stop ski resort development for their own PR.
14526810:cyphers said:i have never torn up alpine tundra with a snowmobile or taken a shit in a protected lake so i’d say my sense of superiority is very real
14526810:cyphers said:i have never torn up alpine tundra with a snowmobile or taken a shit in a protected lake so i’d say my sense of superiority is very real
14526851:cyphers said:
14527010:Craw_Daddy said:Lol that’s fine by me. Keep me blocked you soft little bitch boy.
14527014:eheath said:self awareness: 0/100
14527022:Craw_Daddy said:Oh that kid is definitely the type to unblock people to see if they responded to him. Total bitch just like you.
14527022:Craw_Daddy said:Oh that kid is definitely the type to unblock people to see if they responded to him. Total bitch just like you.
14527034:tutipups said:u know that u can just press the show button and dont have to unblock people to see what they wrote?
14527034:tutipups said:u know that u can just press the show button and dont have to unblock people to see what they wrote?
14527156:partyandBS said:Dang i would be curious what the show rate is lol. I bet you its pretty high. If I blocked someone i would most definitely be like “oh what did this piece of shit post now?!” And click show lol
14527052:Craw_Daddy said:
14526822:Static said:Patagonia is hypocritical as fuck, they don't support skiing, they actively work to stop ski resort development for their own PR.
14526672:IsaacNW82 said:I mean, Patagonia according to its own internal audits found exploitation, forced labor, and human trafficking (mostly in Taiwan) in its supply chain in 2011, and then again was named in 2020 by a congressional report as having credible reports of using forced labor (this time in Xinjiang).
I guess my point is the rage over Lesh's antics just seem really unimportant when the entire industry is still struggling to not traffic humans or use forced labor
14532370:tutipups said:eh after the news of him today, yeah kinda important
14532370:tutipups said:eh after the news of him today, yeah kinda important