Vehicle attack in Barcelona

Mike-O

Mike-O

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There's been a possible terror attack in Barcelona, Spain. One or two vans hitting pedestrians on Las Ramblas, which is probably where many others here who've been to Barca have also set foot upon. Hit a bit close to home in this one since I have friends vacationing there at the moment.

I hope these don't become the norm around these parts, even this year we've had a lot of events that were previously largely open, but now walled with concrete stoppers or army trucks, "just in case".
 
13831002:thebrotherwease said:
Can we please drop a bomb on Mecca? Show these terrorists who's the boss.
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Milo Yiannopoulos is selling these at his online store.

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13831013:JAHpow said:
Milo Yiannopoulos is selling these at his online store.

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If you are gonna dish it out, u outta be ready to get served
 
13831023:john18061806 said:
You sound like you really hate the middle east.
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I really don't care tbh I'm just commenting on something that's on the news. It's not like I sit around thinking about it. But if I hear about Muslims killing inncocent ppl I'll comment on it.
 
13831024:thebrotherwease said:
But if I hear about Muslims killing inncocent ppl I'll comment on it.
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Don't say muslims dude. Every broad category on earth has killed innocent people. Christians slaughtered entire towns of innocent people in the crusades. Americans have a running history of killing innocent people in other parts of the world. I'm not saying Muslims aren't killing innocent people here. I'm saying you're an uninformed ignorant piece of shit for saying "it's the muslims" instead of the small extremist groups with crazy ideologies. When the KKK was at its peak, we didn't blame Christians or Americans for murders. It was the KKK. With these attacks it's ISIS and related groups, not the Middle East, or Muslims.
 
Just when I said this hit close to home, now there's been a multiple stabbing in Turku, Finland. Two dead, five injured badly. Machete or some long knife used. Some say he was shouting "Allah akbar" but no real confirmation of this, but the attacker was of Middle-Eastern/North African origin according to police. Sweet Jesus in any case. Let's hope this isn't the death scream of ISIS as they put their small cells and individuals to work all around in a small span of time.
 
13831025:john18061806 said:
Don't say muslims dude. Every broad category on earth has killed innocent people. Christians slaughtered entire towns of innocent people in the crusades. Americans have a running history of killing innocent people in other parts of the world. I'm not saying Muslims aren't killing innocent people here. I'm saying you're an uninformed ignorant piece of shit for saying "it's the muslims" instead of the small extremist groups with crazy ideologies. When the KKK was at its peak, we didn't blame Christians or Americans for murders. It was the KKK. With these attacks it's ISIS and related groups, not the Middle East, or Muslims.
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Damn your triggered, did you run out of blue hair dye this morning lil snowflake.
 
It's all the news. The mix of "bad shit happens all the time whether the media posts about it" and the people doing shit to make headlines.

Unfortunately people cum as soon as they get the deetz of a tragedy to the news will always blow it up for ratings.

I wish the news was boring.
 
13831047:theabortionator said:
It's all the news. The mix of "bad shit happens all the time whether the media posts about it" and the people doing shit to make headlines.

Unfortunately people cum as soon as they get the deetz of a tragedy to the news will always blow it up for ratings.

I wish the news was boring.
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I don't know, seems like the fact that mainstream media withholds info these days a lot has lead to people getting their news of something like this first from their social media before reporters/media even had a time to react. Been like this for me in many cases, such as this latest Finnish incident. Media creates some blurb with "more to come" and filling network time with inane babble and speculation, but these days it's what people with smartphones were able to capture to both deliver the first info and be asked to share it by the MSM. Look at any incident vids or pics on twatter, there'll be your MSM guys asking for permission to use their data for their reports.
 
It's funny, people think blowing up ISIS, restricting immigration, etc. is going to solve the issue.

It won't. So long as there is an open line of communication between the extremists and the young men and women they indoctrinate with their ideas, this problem will continue. The change is going to have to come from within Islam, which make take decades like it has with other religions.

Honestly, there isn't much we can do except live our daily lives. Most of us are more likely to die in a car than from a terrorist attack yet we get in cars every day.
 
13831025:john18061806 said:
Don't say muslims dude. Every broad category on earth has killed innocent people. Christians slaughtered entire towns of innocent people in the crusades. Americans have a running history of killing innocent people in other parts of the world. I'm not saying Muslims aren't killing innocent people here. I'm saying you're an uninformed ignorant piece of shit for saying "it's the muslims" instead of the small extremist groups with crazy ideologies. When the KKK was at its peak, we didn't blame Christians or Americans for murders. It was the KKK. With these attacks it's ISIS and related groups, not the Middle East, or Muslims.
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Agree that we shouldn't throw this on "Muslims" as people, but we can sure as shit throw it on Islam as ideology. Even if you take a middle of the road version of Islam, this kind of behavior is completely justified, promoted, and encouraged. The only reason there are "good" Muslims in the world is because they are listening to their own common sense & practical reason and ignoring what their doctrine tells them to do. The same can be said for much of Christianity too.
 
13831151:onenerdykid said:
Agree that we shouldn't throw this on "Muslims" as people, but we can sure as shit throw it on Islam as ideology. Even if you take a middle of the road version of Islam, this kind of behavior is completely justified, promoted, and encouraged. The only reason there are "good" Muslims in the world is because they are listening to their own common sense & practical reason and ignoring what their doctrine tells them to do. The same can be said for much of Christianity too.
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See isn't that the issue, and actually Christianity doesn't promote violence for religious purpose at all. Now in history their has been murders perpetrated for christian gain, yes. But I can guarantee that all of them were committed by Catholics, Neo Nazi's, and White Supremacist (Not protestant christians). Protestants was a movement to get away from the Catholics, as they saw the corruption, and how they were misleading the masses of Europe. Don't get me wrong Alt-Rights are bad and very hateful group. Murder is murder, no way beating around the stick. I don't know much about Islamic religion but if attacking innocent non believers is somehow promoted in their religion is apart of the ideology that is super wrong. If that is apart of the religion, then why aren't they seen as a hate group? Whereas with Alt-Right they're labeled a hate group for their own judgement towards people of different color/race, not from religion perspective as no their is no acceptance of this behavior in the bible. There is no biblical scriptures reinforcing that God created a dominant race, or promoting discrimination towards others. I agree we should condemn Alt-Right groups for their hate, but then question ponders me why should we be more accepting of Islamic religious people if this type of hate/violence is promoted in their religion. If promoted violence, and hate is In the religion, why aren't they deemed a hate group? I'm taking your word, so if anyone does have some insight on the Islamic religion please feel free to supply some information/perspective.

**This post was edited on Aug 19th 2017 at 2:09:09pm
 
13831175:Lieutenant_Dan said:
See isn't that the issue, and actually Christianity doesn't promote violence for religious purpose at all. Now in history their has been murders perpetrated for christian gain, yes. But I can guarantee that all of them were committed by Catholics, Neo Nazi's, and White Supremacist (Not protestant christians). Protestants was a movement to get away from the Catholics, as they saw the corruption, and how they were misleading the masses of Europe. Don't get me wrong Alt-Rights are bad and very hateful group. Murder is murder, no way beating around the stick. I don't know much about Islamic religion but if attacking innocent non believers is somehow promoted in their religion is apart of the ideology that is super wrong. If that is apart of the religion, then why aren't they seen as a hate group? Whereas with Alt-Right they're labeled a hate group for their own judgement towards people of different color/race. There is no biblical scriptures reinforcing that God created a dominant race, or promoting discrimination towards others. I agree we should condemn Alt-Right groups for their hate, but then question ponders me why should we be more accepting of Islamic religious people if this type of hate/violence is promoted in their religion. If promoted violence, and hate is In the religion, why aren't they deemed a hate group? I'm taking your word, so if anyone does have some insight on the Islamic religion please feel free to supply some information/perspective.
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Fuck your Judeau Christian values

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13831038:Lieutenant_Dan said:
Damn your triggered, did you run out of blue hair dye this morning lil snowflake.
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What part of that response was "triggered. He said don't generalize a large group of people. That's pretty solid morally speaking and is widely accepted.
 
13831245:Lonely said:
What part of that response was "triggered. He said don't generalize a large group of people. That's pretty solid morally speaking and is widely accepted.
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it was a joke, just like you.
 
13831175:Lieutenant_Dan said:
See isn't that the issue, and actually Christianity doesn't promote violence for religious purpose at all. Now in history their has been murders perpetrated for christian gain, yes. But I can guarantee that all of them were committed by Catholics, Neo Nazi's, and White Supremacist (Not protestant christians). Protestants was a movement to get away from the Catholics, as they saw the corruption, and how they were misleading the masses of Europe. Don't get me wrong Alt-Rights are bad and very hateful group. Murder is murder, no way beating around the stick. I don't know much about Islamic religion but if attacking innocent non believers is somehow promoted in their religion is apart of the ideology that is super wrong. If that is apart of the religion, then why aren't they seen as a hate group? Whereas with Alt-Right they're labeled a hate group for their own judgement towards people of different color/race, not from religion perspective as no their is no acceptance of this behavior in the bible. There is no biblical scriptures reinforcing that God created a dominant race, or promoting discrimination towards others. I agree we should condemn Alt-Right groups for their hate, but then question ponders me why should we be more accepting of Islamic religious people if this type of hate/violence is promoted in their religion. If promoted violence, and hate is In the religion, why aren't they deemed a hate group? I'm taking your word, so if anyone does have some insight on the Islamic religion please feel free to supply some information/perspective.

**This post was edited on Aug 19th 2017 at 2:09:09pm
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Christianity does promote violence for religious purposes in both the New and Old Testament (more so Old than New, but both do it). The New Testament also justifies slavery, treating women as second class citizens, and anti-Semitism. So Christianity is definitely not off the hook. If you want to know which parts of Islam are violent, just do a simple Google search for violent verses in both the Qur'an (that which came direct from Allah) and the Hadith (the biography of Muhammad). Killing Jews "wherever you find them" is 100% justified and encouraged, so is killing non-believers, apostates (those who leave the religion), adulterers, and homosexuals. Not to mention that martyrdom is very central to the ideology- this is why Muslims are killing each other and other people in the name of Islam. Being a martyr for Allah is basically guaranteed entry to Heaven and is seen as the most glorious way one can die.

I believe Westerners want to defend Islam because 1) they think that well since Christianity did bad things in the past, we can let Islam off the hook, 2) Not all Muslims are bad people, so don't blame the religion, 3) many people don't want to criticize others' way of life, and 4) most people want to defend minority groups and don't want to be labeled as a bigot. The underlying problem is that most people haven't read any of the Qur'an and consequently don't understand how retrograde and horrible Islam is. Anyone who believes in freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, equality of the sexes, etc. etc. should be fully and utterly opposed to Islam.
 
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