Vegetarians?

i've been a vegetarian my whole life, ive got nuttin against eating meat, thats just the way i was raised, my parents never told me i couldnt eat it, thats just the way we were. i tried meat once didnt like it at all, oh and im in pretty dang good health too

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oh man, try to marinate steak in terryaki for like two days, then cook it nice and fast and eat it somewhat rare, there is so much flavor.

 
YUPP!!! its all about cooking it nice and rare... soo it's still blood and juicy... and possibly saying 'moooo'.

 
the only vegetables i eat is he cheese on my burger, wait a second...

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to all the vegitarians:

you eat sprouts alive, is that not mean?

on a more serous note; you can be a vegitarian and I respect your consern or whatever reason. I tried not eating meat for a while but started up again because I simply had more energy.

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On a serious note... i don't think there are any problems with eating the meat... It's the methods, quantities and the consequence as a whole. Life eats life. That's how nature works... Keeping this in mind you can determine wether is is ethical or not to eat meat. That's why a lot of people don't eat fast food. Personally I would never give up eating meat because i like it too much.... and I need to gain weight...

 
it seems that some people eat to much meat, and I say this for health reason, red meat is just not good for you, fish and poultry are much healthier. Red meat every once in a while is ok, but just not every night.

 
'Dont get me wrong, I happen to love vegitarians. In fact, all I eat are vegitarians.'

-Quote from Ted Nuget's 'Kill it and Grill It: Cooking Game' cookbook.

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Why?

'You're watching the Family Learning Channel. And now, angry ticks will fire out from my nipples.'

- Excerpt from Rejected, a movie by Don Hertzfeldt
 
Just wondering, but how many of you proud meat eaters hunt or fish regularly? trying to see how many of you routinely get that 'connection' with the source of your food.

I get the feeling that these days it's not:

Life Feeds on Life

But more:

Life Pays To Feed on Life

The idea of likening the paying for someone else to kill and clean and package your meat, to the act of doing it yourself; is like beating off is to sex.

 
I feel bad weather I'm gutting a lamb live or mercilessly hacking at a brocoli florette. Something still has to die to feed me. Unless I eat dirt.

'Dude, check out this nasty gouge.'

'Your mom has a nasty gouge.'

'If you arent mad enough to bareknuckle box, then you arent mad.'

-Red Forman

 
i go fishing and clean my own fish all the time in the summer... mmmmmm... fresh caught fish is sooo good.

 
maybe i missed this, but isnt one of the main reasons for not eating meat is becuase the amount of grain that we feed cows and other animals could feed so many more people than the meat that we actually get from the cow or animal itself. im not a vegitarian, but i dont eat much meat anyway. plus there are so many overweight americans, it wouldnt hurt for some people to be vegitarian... healthier

one time i found a shard of plastic in my mcdonalds hamburger... nasty

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Seriously? last time I gutted an animal - this fall, two deer. But more importantly, you said I illustrated your point - you eat dirt? Wow, a vegetarian I can respect. Did you lose a lot of weight on the dirt diet? How did you get accustomed to the taste? What is your favorite kind of dirt? Would you say dirt porvides adequate nourishment? It must be nice knowing you dont destroy living things.

'Dude, check out this nasty gouge.'

'Your mom has a nasty gouge.'

'If you arent mad enough to bareknuckle box, then you arent mad.'

-Red Forman

 
ok. i didnt read anything. heres my two cents. heatl reasons, ok, 'because i dont eat anything with a face', come here so i can slap you! that is probably the most ignorant statement EVER. yah know, its not like the plants wern't alive, yah know. heres some more stuff:

i think this is it.
http://maddox.xmission.com/hatemail.cgi#PETA

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I said you illustrated my point because your smart-ass answer led me to believe you were one of many who had no part in the gathering of their own food. If you do, good on you. As a vegan, I already respect you more than I do people who just hand over the cash to get someone else to do it for them.

And, no, I don't eat dirt, I eat vegetables. Why! They're alive! Sure, they are, but in a vastly different way than we are. They lack a central nervous system, and the ability to experience fear, pain, sorrow, etc. You wanna play at this table you better bring more than that.

 
i think that being a vegetarian on moral grounds is rediculous. in the words of mark from guttermouth, if you really want to make a difference 'why dont you buy a herd and set them free?' question 2. whens the last time you saw a wild cow? i dont know that i ever have had the privilage of seeing the vast throngs of wild jersey cows roaming the praries. they were made to feed us. end of story. if we didnt eat em, other predetors would. either way, they die and get eaten. and i like my steak, so i would rather take care of it rather than have all that beef go to waste.

 
Buy a herd and set them free...

You think you and and that genius have a point there? You think that's a funny idea that will make vegetarians realize their ineffectiveness? We know, you know, that cows don't belong here and would be killed quickly in the wilderness. So, while you have a point, that they're likely gonna die either way, does that mean then, you compassionate guy, that we should keep breeding them, so they can keep entering the cycle? It's fucking retarded to think that we're just gonna release all the livestock, but ceasing to breed more would achive basically the same thing.

Oh, and wild cows:
http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20020415/01/

There's lots more out there if you take 13 seconds to look.

 
In the words of Mark from Guttermouth, hehehehehe. This cracks me up.... Who cares? In the words of Propagandhi.......

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easy there spazz... obviously there is an economic dependance on these creatures that has been in place since the 1860's. if we followed your genius advice then what would happen? economic collapse! (maybe not collapse, but it wouldnt be good) but hey- if we can save some cattle, its worth huh? and i never said i was compassionate. in the words of another genius, lemme from motorhead, 'i aint no nice guy'

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The thing is, being a vegetarian really wont change anything. Huge tracts of land are flooded for making rice. The heat, combined with stagnant water promote bacteria growth and rice is labor intensive, meaning people suffer instead of animals. Grains/fruit/vegetables require cultivating/disturbing huge parcels of land this affects land animals. Wetlands are drained to recover soil, this hurts bird species. Underground aquifers are drained. And crucial waterways in arid areas are dammed/diverted for irrigation, which again promotes bacteria growth. Plus, pesticides and herbicides are used on vegetables. So farming your vegatbles is hardly responsible. Lets look at meat. Cattle can graze on natural prairie grasses. Farmers dont mind if indiginous animals graze with their cattle, in fact they encourage it - on the other hand, if the same animals graze on a farmers grains, they get shot. The land is left largely unchanged - Prairie land was literally made to have animals graze it. Large herbivores take the food value of a large tract of land and concentrate it. Their manure enriches topsoil and spreads seeds. In reality, it would take far more land to feed the world on plants than on meat because of this food value concentration effect. It is the circle of life, natures way. Finally, look in the mirror, you have incisors, for chewing meat. Most vegtable fibres are difficultto digest or are completely indigestable. Protein and fat however, digest easily, despite what you've been told. Like everyting else in life, its all about balance, not going to some extreme. Vegans get some kind of false sense of moral right based on misguided compassion toward animals that we clearly need to eat, without thinking of the big picture. MAYBE you'd have an arguement if you grew your own produce, if you buy from a grocery store, you are paying for the detachment from the food process, just like you talked about.

'Dude, check out this nasty gouge.'

'Your mom has a nasty gouge.'

'If you arent mad enough to bareknuckle box, then you arent mad.'

-Red Forman

 
wow you might even be smarter than lemme from motorhead and mark from guttermouth combined.

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Scotchy JR. Ooompa Loompas in the icon. Well done.... hahahaha.

Don't involve me in this argument. I don't care.... Do what ya want!

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Ok, I'm gonna reference a site, cuz if I post it, no one will go look.

You say we clearly need to eat meat. Is that because all the test-cases, who volunteered to eat only vegetables are dying at a rapid rate? Yes.... seems as though we clearly need it...

The land issue is null, since 1/2 of earths land is grazed on by livestock. And do you reall ythink that all cattle spend their days grazing out in a pasture enjoying the day? LOL, give me a break. The manure idea you had was great, right up until the fertilization part, where you forgot to menion all the hormones and chemicals that re-enter the soil, that were in the cow to begin with.

And.. topsoil! '35 pounds of topsoil are lost in the production of one pound of grain-fed beef.'

You know how many pounds of vegetables you can grow with 35 pounds of topsoil? I don't either, but it's a lot more.

Pounds of edible product that can be produced on an acre of prime land:

Apples 20,000

Carrots 30,000

Potatoes 40,000

Tomatoes 50,000

The water issue, you say that we'd have to use more water to grow an equivilent amount o food in the absence of meat, but:

The number of gallons of water needed

to produce one pound of edible product:

Apples 49

Carrots 33

Potatoes 24

Tomatoes 23

Beef 2,500

Meat, poultry and dairy products contain the major source of pesticide residues in the western diet.25

95% of human exposure to the potent carcinogen dioxin comes from consuming meat, poultry and dairy.26

Nearly half of all fish sampled by Consumers Union was contaminated with bacterial from human or animal feces.28

99% of US non-vegetarian mothers' milk has significant levels of DDT. Only 8% of US vegetarian mothers' milk has significant levels of DDT.29

14% of all cattle are fed back to cattle as part of protein-fortified feed.37

Approximately 8 million pounds of poultry manure are fed annually to California's beef cattle.38

50% of all the antibiotics used in the US are fed to animals, and 80% of them are used to promote growth, not to treat disease.39

 
...and the rebuttal. Stats are nice. You can use them to make your folley seem reasonable. Lets see, 1/2 the worlds land is grazed? 1/2 the worlds land isnt suitable for any kind of farming thats a bogus stat right there. Why are antibiotics bad? They are medicine. Both animals and vegetables are genetically modified it doesnt have to be bad. Now you say meat contains high levels of pesticide and herbicide? Now why would that be? Cows dont need that stuff, but plants do. Maybe there is pesticide all over from ...bingo! VEGTABLE FARMING! The cattle eat traces of pesticide and it slowly builds in their tissue. Get rid of all the meat animals on earth and you still need pesticide to grow crops. Another bougus stat - the one about soil displacement. I LIVE in cattle country. When you walk in a pasture, you can hardly tell it from a wild ungrazed pasture. But let me tell you, you KNOW when you are in a wheat field - thousnads of tons of displaced soil - you have to break the earth to plant crops. Finally, while it takes lots of water to process meat, you have a choice of where to locate the facility, you can use less important sources of water, but farms really have no choice but to use what water they have. Now, I'm working my butt of, do you have anything besides partisan lies to copy and paste?

'Dude, check out this nasty gouge.'

'Your mom has a nasty gouge.'

'If you arent mad enough to bareknuckle box, then you arent mad.'

-Red Forman

 
Sorry about the length:

VEGANS: Modern Day Witches 

Sermon by Brother Harry Hardwick,

January 26, 2003, 11:00 A.M., Gold-Star Members Service, Main Sanctuary

Friends, you needn’t be nostalgic for your mind to occasionally wander back to a better time - a time when the world was far less complicated, when morality reigned supreme, when life was just a whole lot easier and more care-free. I am, of course, referring to the late 1600’s. Lucifer was easier to spot back in those days even though the people were simple-minded - even more simple-minded than the current American public when it comes to justifications for war. Satan’s minions were easy to locate. They looked, acted and spoke differently than anyone else. Their slimy, pickle-colored, wart-ridden skin, enormous noses and jutting chins, web-like, matted hair and sickly demeanor led folks to know instantly what they were -- witches! Front porch cauldrons of bubbling fluid containing the most disgusting insects and rodents imaginable made the home of a witch easy to locate. And the incessant rhyming of incantations made the voice of a witch easy to identify, particularly since there were no rap singers back then. A True Christian™ could spot a witch a mile away. An even better Christian could strike one with a flaming arrow from the same distance. All it took was a few wooden stakes, some rope and a torch, and the devil was defeated for yet another day.

Things aren’t so simple any more. Witches have learned a lot since the days of the Puritans. They’ve learned that if they show their hideous faces in public, it won’t just be their warts we burn off. So, they’ve had to go undercover in their efforts to recruit the weak-willed to the service of their master in Hell. To induce these naïve innocents to join their filthy cult, they have been forced to come up with a politically correct justification for their association. They have had to conceal the real purpose of their late-night meetings, when they cast spells on the vulnerable, brew hideous potions, and sacrifice infants to the devil. They have had to come up with a modern message that will be attractive to the weak-kneed while not raising the ire of True Christians™ that much. That message is called “vegetarianism.” Today’s witches are called “vegans.”

One needn’t look any further than Christ’s words to see that so-called “vegans” are nothing more than sorcerers and demons, mocking God while spitting on His Son’s final supper. They know God loves meat and has ordered us to eat as much of it as we can. So they poke fun at the Lord with slogans like “Meat is murder” and by insisting their members abstain from consuming anything that comes from an animal. Jesus warned us about these diabolical cretins. Turn your Bibles to First Timothy, chapter 4, verses 1 through 3 and recite along with me:

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

I don’t know how Jesus could have warned us any more directly about these devils. They try to hide behind phrases like “animal lover” and “animal rights advocate.” That is devil-speak if I ever heard it! The Bible makes clear that God created animals for one purpose only - our nutritional and intestinal satisfaction. Just as God created woman solely to be the servant of man, meaning women are to obey their husbands at all times, keep their mouths shut in church and never teach (1 Timothy 2:11-15; Ephesians 5:22-24), so, too, God created animals so we would have something to fill our stomachs with after a hard day’s work. God told us long before He used Mary to incubate His son: “Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you” (Genesis 9:3). Every moving thing - not just the ugly ones, not just the dumb ones, like chickens and fish. Every living thing. The most beautiful fawn, the most prized heifer, the most graceful swan, the cutest bunny rabbit. According to God, they’re all nothing more than sausage fodder!

When the apostle, Peter, woke up hungry, what did God give him to eat? Not a pansy platter of carrot sticks, lettuce leaves and orange slices. He gave him every type of four-footed beast on the earth and every fowl of the air, telling him, “Rise, Peter, kill, and eat” (Acts 10:9-13). When Cain and Abel offered gifts to the Lord, Abel gave the Lord the fat he cut off the hides of his flock whereas Cain gave the Lord a fruit and vegetable tray. The Lord loved Abel’s offering of something that would stick to His holy ribs and despised Cain’s lesser offering of mere produce. Cain became jealous and murdered the brother with the superior gift-giving eye (Genesis 4:3-8). This was the first, but my no means the last, human murder committed by these vegans a/k/a witches a/k/a wiccans.

But add another a/k/a to that list - homos. You see, veganism offers a place of solace for sodomites every bit as attractive as a Catholic confessional. Fruits and vegetables are what housewives and sissies on Weight Watchers eat, whereas meat, cheese and butter are what real men eat. If every meal you eat doesn’t contain something that lives in, or comes out of something that lives in, a barn, you aren’t a real man. Jesus warned us that the men who would one day call themselves “vegans” are nothing more than nancy-boys looking for refuge somewhere. “For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs” (Romans 14:2). Just take a look at these losers - thin as a rail, pale as a ghost. The kind of men we used to beat up every day at school. If you asked any one of them, he would probably admit he supports feminism. The only protein these marys consume was created for a completely different purpose, the misuse of which is precisely what got Onan struck dead by God.

Watch out for these witches and fairies, my friends, for in today’s world of ailing morality, they are everywhere. They protest outside leather shops. They ruin other people’s valuable winter coats by hurling buckets of blood on unsuspecting ladies. And they try to destroy the cattle industry with their left-wing talk shows. If you spot one of these demons, detain it and, when you’re through roasting that side of beef you’re having for dinner, replace that meat on the skewer with the heathen, and help restore a long-missed moral tradition.

Commander of the Silent Army

Viva La Resistance!

'Drive this car till the wheels fall off'-martin lawrence
 
what's wrong with being vegetarian based on morals? that's not a dumb idea at all. a lot of people choose to do things based on morals. not commiting crimes for example.

ok, ever hear of Bovine Growth Hormones? they pump dairy cows so full of these hormones so that they will lactate 24 hours a day. that's pretty inhumane. and there's so much in their systems that traces of it are absorbed into the milk that they produce. and then we drink it. so we are getting injections of boving growth hormones. and that's just like one of a million things that they do to cows. and if you're really worried about pesticides and herbicides, there's such a thing called organic foods. there are some pretty strict regulations you have to follow to be classified as organic.... that's why everyone should buy PATAGONIA and not sierra or north face or whatever... all of their products are 100% organic - organic free range sheep's cotton, etc ,etc ,etc.. and they put like 17% or 35% or soemthing of their profits back into environmental programs. very good company.

 
wat if someone snuck meat into a vegan's meal? they would barf it up and pretend it never happened, right? but thats just wasting the meat... not only was the animal killed, but it went to no good use... not even to save another being.

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Why can't everyone just leave it at 'if you wanna be a vegetarian/vegan that's ok as long as you don't act all smug and push it on others'? I have nothing against vegetarians. Except for this one time at school, I tried going to veggie all you can eat for $3, cuz I was hung over and looking for bagels and stuff like that, but they had all this weird gross cold food that was supposed to be warm and it sucked. That sucked.

Message to: Jib_This

Message from: NewO

Date Sent: 2003-02-11 17:33:01

ur a dumb shit

Message to: Jib_This

Message from: NewO

Date Sent: 2003-02-22 00:30:55

hey, get a gun and shoot ur self in the head

past tense that

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