Vegan

[lalalalaura]

Oh sorry, guess I didn't mean for my posting in DEFENSE of a lifestyle that I don't even lead to come off as seeming superior... You're quite the hypocrite to talk about not liking those who "act superior to other people for their dietary choices as well as constantly bitch at parties". I didn't come on here for you to tell me that being a vegetarian is futile and that I'm not doing anything right. Go fuck yourself if you feel the constant necessity to slanders others because of a few things here or there you read. You are criticising something you clearly have no real experience in, and are basing your conclusion upon the few and far between people you've met whom you likely did not even speak with about the issues you seem so opposed to.

 

[Ice-Is-Scary]

Trust me, I used to have nothing against vegatarianism (still don't) or veganism for that matter. But after countless lectures from "Self-proclaimed nutritionists" at festivals and parties (my sister always dated hippies) I have met A LOT of vegans and they have all had the same shitty attitude. Telling me I'm going to die by the time I'm 40 of heart disease because I eat meat and all other kinds of nonsence when they have no idea about my diet, (which is extremely clean for the record) and telling me I might as well be eating my cat or my dog, and other such senseless bullshit. I just have had really bad experiences with vegans so when I have a chance to take a shot at one I will, it's probably the only group of people on this planet I dislike.

 

[jibs]

Had you actually bothered to read my post you would see that i posted for both vegetarian and vegan diets. While the post was directed specifically at your ignorance, because you're the loudest right now, it was meant for everybody. Vegetarians and vegans alike can both take something from that.

I don't know what these mysterious sources of yours are, but i'll give you a couple. One is a recent BBC article on unhealthy vegan children, the other is a rebutle to it, take what you want from it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4282257.stm

http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/ncbs_vegan_study.htm

And by the way, you're hatred for vegans is right up there with racism. Hating an entire community of people, simply on a few bad experiences based on one minute portion of the group as a whole. Sorry buddy, but you need to grow up and learn that gross generalization only makes you look like an ignorant ass.

 

[Ice-Is-Scary]

I tried reading the second article but when I clicked the link my webpage was covered in flowers n shit . I dont deny that I'm stereotyping an entire group of people, but when you've met as many as I have and they have all been relatively the same, self righteous, superior, exc, you might feel the same. Racism is still around for a reason, it doesn't work in every case but it seems to work some of the time. After living in the ghetto for a few years believe me, no matter how hard you try you will pick up some stereotypes.

 

[Chuck_Norris]

Both of my parents are vegan, so I guess I am too, but I eat meat whenever I'm not with them. it's so damn good

 

[jibs]

So your posts are, for the most part, based on hippy festivals and parties? HAHAHA! Alright, you're ignorance on vegetarians are forgiven. I mean, really, by the looks of things you probably picked up your dislike from the most idealistic demographic in the world.

Try going to an MD's web site on vegetarianism. Did you maybe think that people who aren't idealistic hippies are maybe not the ones trying to fill your head with BS? Look at that bbc website i posted on malnourished vegans, that study was apparently sponsored by the cattlemans association of america...the other side of the spectrum completely.

 

[jibs]

riiight...i must have missed the flowers .

end of story i guess.

 

[Ice-Is-Scary]

yeah I saw that, funny stuff. Just goes to show how much BS you can read on the internet. I guess the point is I've never met a "normal" vegan because they arn't the ones throwing paint on my furhood up at the mountain.

 

[Timmy_G]

"the more red meat we eat, the more blood-thirsty we become..."

 

[gaberaham]

Thats a huge steriotype. I dont mean to set myself of a pedastool but I dont act superior for being vegaterian, partly because I dont think that makes me superior. There are lots of vegaterians that are the same way that are not going to push their views or thoughts onto you. I think that you have probably met people that are vegaterian that do not brodcast it so you would never know. I do my best not to shit on anyone for eating meat, its a decision I make and I think everyone should decide for themselfs. I just dont like that you steriotype people like that. I think openmindedness is key, and that is pretty closed minded. So I am sorry for those people that act like dicks showing off the vegatericanism like a gold medal but just realize that they are only a small percent of vegaterians, though maybe the easyest to spot

 

[Elijah.]

nah

i still kidnap vegetarians, and force them to eat meat

it makes life a lot of fun

oh and by the way

"for every animal that you don't eat, im going to eat three"-maddox

maddox has lots of sense

 

[mtbakerguy]

vegans creep me out

 

[Literature]

I only bring out my vegetarian facts when people give me shit for being different than they are. Living in montana, its like its impossible for most people to accept that I am vegetarian. I have no problem with hunting, I dont do it myself, but it is much better meat than cow and actually takes more skill than pulling it out of the freezer at safeway. I dont have a bad attitude except when other people get on my case, at which point they learn more about being vegetarian than they would ever care to know and generally shut up.

 

[sunvalleyskibum]

^yah, same here. i dont go outta my way to preach to people, but it pisses me off when people are like "dude, dont drink that soda. it has meat in it".

 

[Elijah.]

hey hey hey... guess what? YOUR ALL FAGS!

 

[jibs]

still feeling threatened eh?

 

[shrEddie]

our bodies cant process fiber. it just helps you poop better

 

[Elijah.]

actually you should feel threatended because your next on my grocery list

 

[lagwagon]

i hate idiots that say, "animals eat each other". We, as humans suppress certain "animal instinct" urges everyday to remain accepted in society.

 

[whattheshit]

thats right man. some bitch vegetarian was at the pasta bar near me and they give you a choice of what meat you want so i got ham and then they ask you sauce and they give a choice of tomato, meat, and alfredo. so i get meat sauce to double the protein since this was a pro/carb meal for me. and the bitch was said "ham and then meat sauce, must be great day being a carnivore" then i say "yep" walk away. fucking bitch.

 

[Elijah.]

jibsy! me and you always duke it out on this thread

and i think that ive succesfully digested your sister/brother

cant tell cause they both taste the same

muy deliciouso

 

[Itsbackfliptime]

Homo sapiens are omnidontal which means our teeth are suited for both meat and vegetables.

 

[B-Hops]

Not really...Vegans don't get all nine essential Amino Acids present in only meat.

 

[skinlikewinter]

HOW MANY VEGETABLES HAD TO DIE FOR YOUR STUPID SALAD!?!?!?

 

[Jessbuff]

Actually, they do get all the essential amino acids by eating a balance of legumes, soy products, grains and green leafy vegetables.

The problem with being a vegan is that it is very difficult to get sufficient iron, zinc, calcium, vitamin B12 + D and omega 3 fatty acids. However, a loosly vegetarian diet which permits eating eggs, milk and white fish can supply all of the esential nutrients with lower levels of artery clogging saturated / trans fats and cholesterol present in animal meats.

 

[TheQuailman]

ya im a vegan and i ate some honey - im so badass

 

[skier58284]

bump

 

[mike759]

meat is my main food group

 

[urbanjib]

Im vegan.

Lost a lot of weight, feel rad, still strong.

 

[THEHARLEMSHAKE]

honestly i fuck a lot of chicks that shop at Whole Foods, and honestly eating out a chick that eats healthy food is amazing

vegan pussy is honestly the best tasting pussy around, nothing can compare

the taste of vegan pussy is amazing! vegan pussy has this sweet and tangy flavor to it, and its so addicting that you can't stop licking ur chicks box

i once dated this vegan chick, and in less than a month i lost over 30 pounds bcuz i couldn't stop eating this chicks pussy

 

[deleted5]

You people need to open your minds. It is something different that people do, and the amount of dedication and work it takes is ridiculous. It is also limited by your budget, as well as if you can cook for yourself apart from everyone else almost all the time. It has health benifits: Vegans are 57% less likely to get heart disease than normal carnivores. Myself, I am only a vegetarian, but i still eat dairy and eggs. This may be contradictory, but it is not important. The fact is, vegans are hardcore and deserve respect.

You should go look at the correlation between vegans and mental health disorders. Humans were made to be omnivores.

 

[corona]

You should go look at the correlation between vegans and mental health disorders. Humans were made to be omnivores.

It's probably more because those with a mental health disorder are more likely to become vegan rather than being vegan gives you mental health disorders.

 

[*DUMBCAN*]

Ha this thread being appropriately bumped...

The UK's new shadow minister for farming (shadow means the equivalent position in the opposition party, they have no power but they are supposedly crucial to debate as they should be equally knowledgeable about the field) is a vegan.

The first thing she said is that meat eating should be treated like smoking, i.e. meat come with loads of propaganda about mistreatment of animals and health etc etc.

Just shows how much of a joke the Corbyn-led opposition is...

Like I'm all for encouraging people to eat less meat but buy from high quality local butchers, but abusing your position in government to encourage people to eat no meat based on little more than your bullshit ideology is retarded.

 

[notspoicey]

ya im a vegan and i ate some honey - im so badass

^^

 

[S.J.W]

Ha this thread being appropriately bumped...

The UK's new shadow minister for farming (shadow means the equivalent position in the opposition party, they have no power but they are supposedly crucial to debate as they should be equally knowledgeable about the field) is a vegan.

The first thing she said is that meat eating should be treated like smoking, i.e. meat come with loads of propaganda about mistreatment of animals and health etc etc.

Just shows how much of a joke the Corbyn-led opposition is...

Like I'm all for encouraging people to eat less meat but buy from high quality local butchers, but abusing your position in government to encourage people to eat no meat based on little more than your bullshit ideology is retarded.

If every person had to view how their steak, bacon, etc lived for years and how it was killed I'm pretty sure every person would go vegan.

 

[Literature]

You should go look at the correlation between vegans and mental health disorders. Humans were made to be omnivores.

Epic quote from literally a decade ago.

Still veggie. Still impressed by the vegan ethic and people who hold themselves to it.

But everyone needs to draw their own lines in the sand. If you want to eat meat, great. If you want to eat only fruit, whatever.

Simply being alive requires resources, no matter who you are or what you eat. All I'd ask is that people try to engage with their consumption, dietary and otherwise.

 

[S.J.W]

You should go look at the correlation between vegans and mental health disorders. Humans were made to be omnivores.

Should also look at the correlation that vegetarians and vegans are also more intelligent than meat eaters. This probably explains your lack of grammar and general retardation.

Also sources are fun.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201005/why-vegetarians-are-more-intelligent-meat-eaters

 

[corona]

If every person had to view how their steak, bacon, etc lived for years and how it was killed I'm pretty sure every person would go vegan.

I've seen factory hog farms and industrial scale abattoirs and am not vegan. I alone disprove your entire statement.

 

[S.J.W]

I've seen factory hog farms and industrial scale abattoirs and am not vegan. I alone disprove your entire statement.

And you didn't even think about not eating meat? Or eating free range meat? And I'll change my statement, the majority of people would go vegan or eat less meat.

 

[corona]

Should also look at the correlation that vegetarians and vegans are also more intelligent than meat eaters. This probably explains your lack of grammar and general retardation.

Also sources are fun.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201005/why-vegetarians-are-more-intelligent-meat-eaters

did you read your own source? cause if you did you certainly wouldn't be saying vegetarians are more intelligent.

Not only does the study have a million massive flaws that aren't controlled for like any societal study, it also only stands true in the UK and not the US. And on top of that they don't state whether it even stand in the UK when they do control for parent education and income as they said they controlled for the in US that then showed no significant difference. And on top of that it says nothing about intelligence over time. Sure they maybe a number from when they were young, but was that number stable over the course of their lives or was it increasing/decreasing?

And the biggest flaw that wasn't controlled for: We all know childhood IQ is terribly inaccurate to begin with (and basing an entire hypothesis of this is laughable at best) and that children develop at very different rates with no bearing on their adult intelligence. So Taking number from children all at the same age who are all at different stages of development is completely ridiculous. It's probably entirely possible to interpret the data and come to the conclusion that those who develop at younger ages are more likely to become vegetarian, or maybe even after taking adult IQ results to say that those who develop faster when children are more likely to have a lower IQ as an adult and thus are more likely to become vegetarian.

Dumb study is dumb.

 

[corona]

And you didn't even think about not eating meat? Or eating free range meat? And I'll change my statement, the majority of people would go vegan or eat less meat.

have you ever visited a farm dedicated to meat production? or an abattoir?

The majority of people would NOT go vegan or eat less meat after visiting those facilities.

However I have had significant changes to my meat-eating over the years. Totally unrelated to visiting farms or abattoirs:

-Overall I eat less meat, but because the price of meat like beef has pretty much doubled in the past decade so it can be difficult to afford eating it on a more regular basis.

-I've taken up hunting a few years ago, partly as an economical way to get meat.

-I'm raising animals for meat, again mostly because of the economic aspect but also for the convenience and cause it's very rewarding raising what's on your plate from scratch.

 

[deleted5]

did you read your own source? cause if you did you certainly wouldn't be saying vegetarians are more intelligent.

Not only does the study have a million massive flaws that aren't controlled for like any societal study, it also only stands true in the UK and not the US. And on top of that they don't state whether it even stand in the UK when they do control for parent education and income as they said they controlled for the in US that then showed no significant difference. And on top of that it says nothing about intelligence over time. Sure they maybe a number from when they were young, but was that number stable over the course of their lives or was it increasing/decreasing?

And the biggest flaw that wasn't controlled for: We all know childhood IQ is terribly inaccurate to begin with (and basing an entire hypothesis of this is laughable at best) and that children develop at very different rates with no bearing on their adult intelligence. So Taking number from children all at the same age who are all at different stages of development is completely ridiculous. It's probably entirely possible to interpret the data and come to the conclusion that those who develop at younger ages are more likely to become vegetarian, or maybe even after taking adult IQ results to say that those who develop faster when children are more likely to have a lower IQ as an adult and thus are more likely to become vegetarian.

Dumb study is dumb.

Lol that's the 2nd time on this site he's done that with a study.

 

[S.J.W]

Lol that's the 2nd time on this site he's done that with a study.

If you're referring to the gender pay gap study, you didn't break it down like Vinnie did. (props to vinnie). You just didn't reply or even provide a counter argument with sources. You're a joke kid.

 

[deleted5]

If you're referring to the gender pay gap study, you didn't break it down like Vinnie did. (props to vinnie). You just didn't reply or even provide a counter argument with sources. You're a joke kid.

Doesn't change the fact you posted a study without even reading and contradicted what your point was trying to say twice. I've much better things to do the breakdown your studies that you don't even bother reading. I'm pretty sure you got the general idea of my posts that you're dumb.

 

[S.J.W]

did you read your own source? cause if you did you certainly wouldn't be saying vegetarians are more intelligent.

Not only does the study have a million massive flaws that aren't controlled for like any societal study, it also only stands true in the UK and not the US. And on top of that they don't state whether it even stand in the UK when they do control for parent education and income as they said they controlled for the in US that then showed no significant difference. And on top of that it says nothing about intelligence over time. Sure they maybe a number from when they were young, but was that number stable over the course of their lives or was it increasing/decreasing?

And the biggest flaw that wasn't controlled for: We all know childhood IQ is terribly inaccurate to begin with (and basing an entire hypothesis of this is laughable at best) and that children develop at very different rates with no bearing on their adult intelligence. So Taking number from children all at the same age who are all at different stages of development is completely ridiculous. It's probably entirely possible to interpret the data and come to the conclusion that those who develop at younger ages are more likely to become vegetarian, or maybe even after taking adult IQ results to say that those who develop faster when children are more likely to have a lower IQ as an adult and thus are more likely to become vegetarian.

Dumb study is dumb.

I wasn't saying becoming vegan will make you smarter. I was just providing a stupid rebuttal to noctournals claim about veganism and mental health.

have you ever visited a farm dedicated to meat production? or an abattoir?

The majority of people would NOT go vegan or eat less meat after visiting those facilities.

However I have had significant changes to my meat-eating over the years. Totally unrelated to visiting farms or abattoirs:

-Overall I eat less meat, but because the price of meat like beef has pretty much doubled in the past decade so it can be difficult to afford eating it on a more regular basis.

-I've taken up hunting a few years ago, partly as an economical way to get meat.

-I'm raising animals for meat, again mostly because of the economic aspect but also for the convenience and cause it's very rewarding raising what's on your plate from scratch.

No I have not visited a farm dedicated to meat production, nor have I visited an abattoir. But from what I have seen from undercover videos things are fucked up in there. I went vegan after watching one of these videos 3 years ago. I'm not against if you eat meat, and good for you for raising animals. Free range meat tastes really good and it's pretty respectful for the animals. But from the reactions I've seen in this video, the reactions are all too common to the reactions I've seen among my friends and family watching factory farming.

 

[S.J.W]

Doesn't change the fact you posted a study without even reading and contradicted what your point was trying to say twice. I've much better things to do the breakdown your studies that you don't even bother reading. I'm pretty sure you got the general idea of my posts that you're dumb.

I posted a quote from that study which found that even when all variables are factored in, women still earn 6% less. But you said it was taken out of context. Lol, you can't talk about not reading a study when it was clear that I did read it and you didn't read it. Now go back to kindergarten and learn how to spell. "I've much better things", like continuing to be a dyslexic retard?

 

[*DUMBCAN*]

If every person had to view how their steak, bacon, etc lived for years and how it was killed I'm pretty sure every person would go vegan.

Yeah but that's why I'd advocate buying from better sources. Of course a £3/$5 pack of Danish (I think Mexican is the equivalent for you Americans) factory farmed slices of pig that you picked off the discount shelf in Wall-mart had a hell of a life. I totally wouldn't be against advertising that, in fact I'd like it if there were laws mandating that all meat packaging states the conditions the animals were kept under. Just don't shove it in our faces.

 

[S.J.W]

Yeah but that's why I'd advocate buying from better sources. Of course a £3/$5 pack of Danish (I think Mexican is the equivalent for you Americans) factory farmed slices of pig that you picked off the discount shelf in Wall-mart had a hell of a life. I totally wouldn't be against advertising that, in fact I'd like it if there were laws mandating that all meat packaging states the conditions the animals were kept under. Just don't shove it in our faces.

Yeah animals raised in respectful environments are better for you, taste better, cook better and are basically just better all round. Props to vinnie for raising his own meat, that's impressive. But if companies that make meat had to advertise how their animals were treated then I think some people would go vegan. It's pretty much the exact same reasoning governments had to get people to quit smoking. And it worked. You want to look at this every time you go to light up a ciggie?

 

[deleted5]

I posted a quote from that study which found that even when all variables are factored in, women still earn 6% less. But you said it was taken out of context. Lol, you can't talk about not reading a study when it was clear that I did read it and you didn't read it. Now go back to kindergarten and learn how to spell. "I've much better things", like continuing to be a dyslexic retard?

I'm not so butthurt I remember word for word the post or situation that happened 6 months ago. What I do remember is you posting 60 to 150 page studies and not reading the results. Then like allbthreads no one agreed with you. Just like post you made at the top of the page trying to post up another study. We didn't forget about about that. but good job trying to play that off by congratulating the guy who called you out.

Now if you'll excuse me I have my kindergarten homework to do. I think I'll go to Burger King first and get some spicy chicken fries.

 

[S.J.W]

I'm not so butthurt I remember word for word the post or situation that happened 6 months ago. What I do remember is you posting 60 to 150 page studies and not reading the results. Then like allbthreads no one agreed with you. Just like post you made at the top of the page trying to post up another study. We didn't forget about about that. but good job trying to play that off by congratulating the guy who called you out.

Now if you'll excuse me I have my kindergarten homework to do. I think I'll go to Burger King first and get some spicy chicken fries.

I'm still waiting for you to post a study which finds the link between vegansism and mental health. And excuse me while I hop in my time machine, go to the deep south in the 70s and hang some black people. I mean the majority agree with me so it must be right?