Unpopular opinion thread skier's edition

13866308:M.c said:
Ive been hidding this one cause selfprotection but whatever..

Cant fucking undertand why the obsession with rails (like all of them). Id rather see a full jumps clips that fucking garbage full rail one doing 2 ins ,switchups and shit. Im getting banned from NS for this....

kinda agree, I can watch the rail sections and be like, yeah that's pretty hard and appreciate the skill. But it never appeals to me in the same way as seeing someone throw a jump. Even if it's just a tweaked zero spin, still way better than someone sliding rails
 
13866282:Jesse_ said:
I don't like daffy butters or @Tophaloaf simply because the trick is ridiculously easy (learnt it in about 10 mins) and I find the hype surounding it as a godly trick kinda annoying.

Might just be me but I don't get how he has such a big following for spamming easy as shit tricks like daffy butters or jumping over box and people will call it insane or "revolutionary"

Go watch some of his old hoodcrew edits and lmk if you still have the same view of him. I agree, I am kind of fed up with him doing the same trick over and over on instagram but he used to put out some really insane shit
 
13866315:Chubz. said:
This website has turned into complete dildos in the last 2 years

Honestly, I remembered when every thread on the front page would have been last responded to in a couple hours max

I remember them going ban crazy around when I stopped visiting (about 2 years ago), not surprised it killed the site
 
@skicompanies stop claiming your skis are tougher or more durable or god forbid "bombproof" because they're not.

I thought my ON3P Magnuses would be durable because they're built pretty beefy. I've been on them for maybe 15 days, got 9 edge cracks and the sidewall is opening up. straight up the least durable ski I've owned so far. Kind of pissed that I blew $550 on a pair of skis that might get me to January if I'm lucky.

Or maybe I should just quit skiing rails and stick to groomers.
 
13866385:Andbrer said:
kinda agree, I can watch the rail sections and be like, yeah that's pretty hard and appreciate the skill. But it never appeals to me in the same way as seeing someone throw a jump. Even if it's just a tweaked zero spin, still way better than someone sliding rails

Lots of NS users come from places with shitty jumps with flat icy landings (east/midwest). The ice gets so bad at my hill that even if you stomp a trick with a good carve you're just going to wash out and destroy your hip. With that, rails are a good way to still progress without going to the hospital all the time. So I'm still gonna drool over rail tricks all day. Sorry not sorry.
 
13866391:john18061806 said:
@skicompanies stop claiming your skis are tougher or more durable or god forbid "bombproof" because they're not.

I thought my ON3P Magnuses would be durable because they're built pretty beefy. I've been on them for maybe 15 days, got 9 edge cracks and the sidewall is opening up. straight up the least durable ski I've owned so far. Kind of pissed that I blew $550 on a pair of skis that might get me to January if I'm lucky.

Or maybe I should just quit skiing rails and stick to groomers.

I put probably 90 days on my kartels when I had them and pretty much learned how to slide rails on them and didn’t get a single edge crack.
 
13866427:Chubz. said:
I put probably 90 days on my kartels when I had them and pretty much learned how to slide rails on them and didn’t get a single edge crack.

some people are harder on skis than others and that matters a lot more than durability
 
13866482:BASEDJAH said:
some people are harder on skis than others and that matters a lot more than durability

i was gonna add that to my comment originally stating that he skis a lot harder than me because he slays rails but i didnt.
 
13866427:Chubz. said:
I put probably 90 days on my kartels when I had them and pretty much learned how to slide rails on them and didn’t get a single edge crack.

Either you're extremely lucky or you don't hit rails the same way most people do. I think a lot of my cracks were from mount hood. The rails get hot there from the sun beating down and their challenge rails are long as hell. Edge cracks happen from the edges heating up from friction on the rail and then hitting the cold snow immediately.

I really wish all ski companies weren't lazy chumps that think steel is good enough for edges (because it's not). Ski ompanies need to get off their lazy ass and hire a materials science guy on their R&D team to figure out a something for edges that isn't so sensitive to rapid changes in temperature.
 
13866495:john18061806 said:
Either you're extremely lucky or you don't hit rails the same way most people do. I think a lot of my cracks were from mount hood. The rails get hot there from the sun beating down and their challenge rails are long as hell. Edge cracks happen from the edges heating up from friction on the rail and then hitting the cold snow immediately.

I really wish all ski companies weren't lazy chumps that think steel is good enough for edges (because it's not). Ski ompanies need to get off their lazy ass and hire a materials science guy on their R&D team to figure out a something for edges that isn't so sensitive to rapid changes in temperature.

I'm sure they could make them, just not for a price any skier would be willing to pay
 
13866502:cool_name said:
Not really, will you buy on3p's again? Will you tell your friends to buy them?

It doesn't matter what I think because most of newschoolers jizzes over anything ON3P
 
A lot of people get caught up with skiing and the industry/cultural side of it, myself included. It is just skiing after all, it's a fun activity to do, and talking yourself seriously or talking shit about someone else's skiing is a pretty silly thing to do when you think about it.
 
13866504:john18061806 said:
It doesn't matter what I think because most of newschoolers jizzes over anything ON3P

It does when you claim they make more money because of people breaking their skis
 
13866516:cool_name said:
It does when you claim they make more money because of people breaking their skis

not gonna change if everyones making skis with essentially the same construction still

after all armada has been sitting on that patent for replaceable edges for what, more then a decade now?
 
Slvsh should put way more ads on their shit. I want to see them paid and I have no idea how they release to much free content.
 
13866105:D.B. said:
-The term "Big Mountain." Just because you ski a 16'000ft Mountain in Colorado doesn't mean you're a "Big Mountain Skier."

-Free Touring and Ski Touring are the exact same.

-Ian McIntosh.

Right on for your formally airing your grievances, BUT...

-Tallest peak in Colorado is Mt Elbert @ 14,440ft. Sounds like all of your "Big Mountain" experience is in Frisco with front rangers who commute from Denver and wear saga bibs.

-freetouring = freeride touring =/= (all) ski touring. Skimo is a type of ski touring and I bet you wont find any of those weight weenies hucking their meat in the CB backcountry.

-Ian McIntosh is a dirty ginger and I can whole heartedly back you on your disapproval. (another) BUT the dude can shred a pair of sticks down a vertical face, and has probably sent more cliffs than either of us have ever walked up to and scoped.

While I'm posting here's my most unpopular skiing opinion;

"The best skiing in Colorado is in Summit and Grand counties" Anyone who has ever skied off of the I-70 corridor thinks its the epitome of skiing "out west". Little do they know down in the SW of the state, we have the snow, the terrain, and the local rippers to have those front range folks thinking their in Alaska.

**This post was edited on Dec 11th 2017 at 1:39:48pm
 
13866105:D.B. said:
-The term "Big Mountain." Just because you ski a 16'000ft Mountain in Colorado doesn't mean you're a "Big Mountain Skier."

""Big mountain"" gate keeping is consistently the most pretentious shit in a sport filled with pretentious nonsense. to hear some people tell it, no big mtn skiing truly exists anywhere by anyone...maybe it's just a myth!

also there are no 16ers in colorado ya goofball
 
When people throw a 4 out (or similar) and purposefully land at 3 and then revert the rest, it looks like shit and not stylish. Get all the way around.
 
13866542:SofaKingSick said:
""Big mountain"" gate keeping is consistently the most pretentious shit in a sport filled with pretentious nonsense. to hear some people tell it, no big mtn skiing truly exists anywhere by anyone...maybe it's just a myth!

also there are no 16ers in colorado ya goofball

idk it seems pretty black-and-white to me, if you ski on big mountain you're a big mountain skier, if you ski on a little mountain you're a little mountain skier
 
13866501:john18061806 said:
Skis that break make more money anyways

13866502:cool_name said:
Not really, will you buy on3p's again? Will you tell your friends to buy them?

I think you're missing the point.

Most people who buy a ski for $600 and break it within a year will not buy it again. However, if they pay $300 for a ski and break it within a year, they will buy that ski again.

If you take care of your gear and ski hard you can make it last long. Just wax those bases, detune those edges, and fix shit as soon as it pops up.

But as stupid as this sounds, I like it when my gear falls apart. I loved my Kartels and were stoked how great of shape they stayed in. But its kinda nice when a ski falls apart in a few years then you have a real good justification to get new skis:)
 
13866564:TheBagOTricks said:
When people throw a 4 out (or similar) and purposefully land at 3 and then revert the rest, it looks like shit and not stylish. Get all the way around.

edge control edge control edge control
 
13866564:TheBagOTricks said:
When people throw a 4 out (or similar) and purposefully land at 3 and then revert the rest,

I agree. all reverts are gay Imo. you didn't land the trick if you had to revert. or choose to.
 
-People who wear jerseys over their ski jackets look stupid as fuck. Sorry not sorry you look dumb. You probably only bought that jersey because you think it looks hood. We all know you don't like the Yankees or Tampa Ray's....be honest.

-I think skiing drunk or high is rediculously stupid and reckless (bring on the hate replies). Go for it, but you won't see me doing it. Are you trying to get an injury?

-People at Killington are mostly douchebags.
 
"Creativity" in ski culture is generally a joke, and the blind trend-whoring and self-referential style-biting makes any sort of ski scene look adolescent at best. It's a painfully small bubble that could benefit from looking outwards more.
 
MSP's quality has dropped dramatically from what it used to be with Attack of La Nina, The Way I See It, etc...as goes for most ski film companies. Much less hype around full-length movies in general nowadays and all the forced hype and promotion makes them seem worse when they finally come out
 
13866530:a_burger said:
not gonna change if everyones making skis with essentially the same construction still

after all armada has been sitting on that patent for replaceable edges for what, more then a decade now?

but why are they all making the basically same skis?

Why has armada been sitting on that patent? Could it be that as I said they can't make indestructible skis for a price anyone would pay?

Or, does it make more sense that they are consciously choosing not to capture the entire market of park skiers?
 
13866569:.lencon said:
I think you're missing the point.

Most people who buy a ski for $600 and break it within a year will not buy it again. However, if they pay $300 for a ski and break it within a year, they will buy that ski again.

If you take care of your gear and ski hard you can make it last long. Just wax those bases, detune those edges, and fix shit as soon as it pops up.

But as stupid as this sounds, I like it when my gear falls apart. I loved my Kartels and were stoked how great of shape they stayed in. But its kinda nice when a ski falls apart in a few years then you have a real good justification to get new skis:)

That is exactly my point, he is saying ON3P makes more money from their skis breaking, which is stupid, as people who break their $600 skis won't buy from them again.
 
When did not fully landing your trick become cool? About 99% of people posting a "butter" or "swivel" landing are full of shit and simply couldn't finish their rotation.

Also Line skis belong in the trash
 
13866627:cool_name said:
That is exactly my point, he is saying ON3P makes more money from their skis breaking, which is stupid, as people who break their $600 skis won't buy from them again.

Yes, but he's talking about companies that sell skis for cheaper.

if you break a ski in 75 days that costs $300 you are more likely to buy that ski again as opposed to a different ski breaking in 75 days that costs $600
 
13866632:.lencon said:
Yes, but he's talking about companies that sell skis for cheaper.

if you break a ski in 75 days that costs $300 you are more likely to buy that ski again as opposed to a different ski breaking in 75 days that costs $600

I dont think he was, he was specifically mentioning ON3P and how his fell apart. He never mentioned companies that sell skis for cheaper, only that a company makes more money by having their skis break, which is stupid.

The $300 dollar ski in your example isnt making more money because their skis break, they would be making more money because they can deliver a ski that lasts just as long as 600 dollar ski for half the price. If the $300 ski fell apart in 10 days, compared to a 600 dollar one that lasts 75 days, the 300 dollar company would go broke and wouldn't make more money because their skis broke.
 
Level 1's most recent movies have been fucking trash, and it's really inexcusable with Level 1's reputation and talent they posses with their athletes. Two years in a row with that awful narration bullshit? Really?
 
Most of the people on NS and all park skiers have never even listened to Wu-Tang, despite confessing their complete love for the Wu.
 
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