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14424427:skiindana said:Ok, so is there a war in eastern Ukraine with the same demands or not for the past 7 years? As far as I can tell, Russia invaded Ukraine in 2015. Yes, what happened recently was different since they attempted to overthrow the government, but now, it's basically the same conflict as before with Russia trying to take the East and connect with Crimea with literally the same demands.
I know though, the media told you it would be best if we overthrow Putin and start a war. So anything that goes against that is confusing and we have to virtue signal about civilians you suddenly care so much about. Suddenly you probably care about civilians in Yemen, or Israel, or Palestine, or Iraq, or Afghanistan.
I'm sure it's not you totally getting hyped up on whatever is in the media...
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14424431:Lonely said:Man what? See this is why I think that the "always question the narrative people" are just about as bad as the people who always follow the narrative.
How is this in any way similar to Crimea besides the fact that it's Russia invading Ukraine under false pretenses?
We've seen more casualties in 2 months than we saw in 8 years since the initial invasion of Crimea.
Millions more refugees.
The complete destruction of the Russian economy.
The largest and most unified sanctions ever.
Switzerland breaking neutrality and Germany upping its military budget.
The pull out of a large swath of American companies from a country of 144 million.
One of the largest raw fossil fuel exporters is now being cut off from the world politically and economically.
The upheaval of the global order now that people realize that the Russian military isn't nearly as adept, nor is the country as globally important as it was thought to be 6 months ago.
Should it be something you're thinking about in your day to day? Probably not.
Is the mainstream media going to milk this? Sure, welcome to existing in the united states for the past 40 years. I don't watch that shit and you don't have to either. Go read original source material then.
Will it affect you to some degree? Of fucking course. We live in a globalized society and this is the largest disruption Europe has seen since the fall of the wall.
/threads.... Thanks for this.
14424436:skiindana said:Most of what you wrote about is due to the original invasion. I was talking about the current situation which is a war in the East with 100% the same demands as before.
I'm not saying it isn't relevant to the world at large. What I'm talking about is the media reaction that gets everyone going around repeating the same thing and demonizing anyone who goes against the narrative. I personally do not want to see troops in Ukraine or money blindly going to a country that is known to be corrupt. I don't think we should act to overthrow Putin and we 100% should give him a way out to avoid more serious conflicts.
If you seriously think Russia is only gonna focus on the east you're delusional. Are you really this naive? RT must be your news


