Underground hip hop

JibChile

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If i fucking hear ja rule onemore time im gonna crack does anyone here like real hopeunderground shit thats good. Dialated peoples, dell, mos def ect.. I fucking hate mainstream

 
im in to the guyz u just said... i also like stuff like zero 7.... i think ludacris has some skills to, i just like his style, and actully i dont mind jarule once in a wile cuz it makes u wanna dance sorta thing, but to much is annoying

Once again my friends...My game the shlong, king kong,my bong, the krong and all my fucking hommies its on
 
yah Del and Heiroglyphics and Souls Of Mischief are good.. I dont really like Mos def... some other good shit is Eligh, Scarub, The Grouch, Mystic Journeymen, Aceyalone, Abstract Rude, Living Legends, Spooks, Visionaries, Luniz, Blackalicious, 7L, Akrobatiks, Aesop Rock, arsonists, Antipop Consortum, Atmosphere, Awol One, Cannibal Ox etc. etc.

Good Old English
 
jedi mind tricks, dead prez, non phixion, necro, cage,

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ya jedi mind tricks are sick

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blackalicious was intense in concert. you should check out Styles of Beyond, and Dr. Octagon is pretty funky.

 
AZN Rap, Archie, Beat Junkies, Buck 65, Company Flow, De La Soul, East Flatbush projects, Isosceles, J. Rawls, Josh Martinez, Kardinal offsishal, Kruder and Dorfmeister, Pharcyde, Roots, Planet Asia, Sage Fancis, Sunspot Jonz, Talib Kwali, Ugly Ducklings,

Good Old English
 
Jedimind tricks and talib kweli have madd skillz im finally glad i met some peoplewho dotn jsut lsiten to that mainstream garbage. Del is one of the sickest guys out there though..

 
half that shit is mainstream! just saw gangstarr at Garfs Sun nite. shit was hype!

Fwqwhgads!

The only member of the 'Early Riser Coffee Club'

 
as if you hguys haven't mentioned the best rap artist of all time...Afu-Ra.

'Fuckin injuns'

'Fuckin injuns'

'Man, it's like all my ass hairs are knotting toghether and when i walk, it's like, OW! SHIT! MOTHERFUCKER!!' - my bud greg on a hike

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Have Dilated People come out with anything new???

If any of u like old Swollen Memebers I would suggest picking up 'Monsters in the Closest'. As Madchild calls it it isnt albumn #3 its #2 1/2 mostly old stuff that didnt make it onto the other albums.

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not too recently...Evidence was the latest, came out a couple months ago

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if you want some pretty good stuff check out

THE BIZNAUTICS, kind of hard to find, but they are tacoma locals, you can usually find thier stuff on kazaa

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i dunno if this is considered underground but even if it isnt, jurassic 5 beats everything

Dan Maguire

Co-Founder of the Maple Valley Freeride Team, both members going west next season!

Go Red Sox

How many snowboarders does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

10, 1 to do it, and 9 to say 'I can do that.'

'Dude, we're sick. He's pretty sick, but his muscles aren't as big as mine, so you know.'-CR Johnson
 
yeah skipimp, afu-ra has skills! pick up any cd by dj honda, hes got a ton of underground people on his tracks including de la soul, dilated, etc. check out everything people have already mentioned too. search the forum for a thread called smooth rap, thats got a bunch of underground stuff on it

-Pat-

'hey when are you guys gonna start using snowlerblades to go around those faggot gates!?' -philou after seeing a guy on 158cm race skis
 
well, me and a freind are putting our new single out soon.. but its arabic, soo...

Moe.

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Pimps don't pay taxes.
 
Yeah heres the problem, I just see a bunch of crackas trying to be as far ahead of the new trend (backpacking) as possible. Dilated peoples? Mighty mos? Bitch Please. If you want some real shit take your ass out the hmv and to some real fucking record stores. I gather that most of you like battle axe and hence rob the viking. If thats how it is you should definitly check out sweat shop union (if you have intelligence and can define capitalism). Whoever the fuck just said ludacris has skills needs to recognize that their a culture theif. And heres some more news, Talib Kweli fell right the fuck off, that new dj quick shit and that new rawkus shit is POP. If any of you little homos like beats I would suggest you go pick up anything the RZA touched pre bobby digital ( the W is the exception, also ghost dog). I would also suggest People underthe stairs if you like sampling. Thats all I'm dropping on you faggots (85% of you) because quite frankly I don't want my culture stole or more exploited than it already is.

Peace to the real heads who never seen the bandwagon

 
dude whatever, i just like j5 i didnt know i was pissing other people off by listening to what i like

Dan Maguire

Co-Founder of the Maple Valley Freeride Team, both members going west next season!

Go Red Sox

How many snowboarders does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

10, 1 to do it, and 9 to say 'I can do that.'

'Dude, we're sick. He's pretty sick, but his muscles aren't as big as mine, so you know.'-CR Johnson
 
C Lo im with ya on all th ehsyt youve said people need to cut the crap on pop and let it be pop ther enot hip hop ther eentertainers

 
Forget what I just said, I re read the forum and I just realized I got you guys twisted. You ready for the real shit. Theres this tight new album by this dude named Ja Rule he's got 'skillz'. Fucking faggots. Skills describes anyone who can freestyle. Afu Ru has fucking depth and intelligence don't fucking limit someone to 'skillz' do you faggots even listen to music??? Keep to your MTV bullshit and don't front cause your wrecking it for me and every other caucasian who lives for hip hop

 
C Lo im not really on the cutting edge of hip hop cultureliek you are maybe but id efintly must say that underground is th eonly palce to find any reali intelligence in hip hop. im so sick ofhearin about people bling blow nad hummers and roadsters. fuck.. and people shouldnt fuxcking go and be like yeha i listen to jurrasic five im down

 
Yo, if you guys really want to hear the real wickid old school, check out Apache, Ghetto boyz, im a die hard wu fan, i got so much of their shit, rza is bomb, ghostface is runner up and then the chef, raekwon. But I can't stand I FUCKING HATE new dre, snoop, ludacris, busta, I can't stand it..mostly because all the stupid white fubu wearing preppies think theyre rough shit cause they listen to it. Man it makes me sick. Arrested development is good, so is Shaba Ranks, Lord Tariq and Peter Gunz, but wu-tang's runnin this shit son. ohh ahh ohh ahh, raw im gonna give it to ya, with no trivia, we're like cocaine straight from bolivia, my hip hop will rock and shock the nation, like the emancipation, proclomation...yeah.

'Fuckin injuns'

'Fuckin injuns'

'Man, it's like all my ass hairs are knotting toghether and when i walk, it's like, OW! SHIT! MOTHERFUCKER!!' - my bud greg on a hike

SUck My AnTeAtEr
 
c-lo, umm just cuz u think your to good to get a cd at hmv dosnt mean your music is the shit, music is sumthin that reflecs on your self, and i think its dumn to tell people if there kinda of music is good or not. and if your at a party i dont wanna listne to deltron or stuff like that...

and ya jedi mind tric is chill, i love the song 'i agasnt i'

Once again my friends...My game the shlong, king kong,my bong, the krong and all my fucking hommies its on
 
yah c-lo dude.. chill man .. pull that stick out of your ass and smoke some drugs.

Good Old English
 
yeah man calm the fuck down. if your shitting on me for saying afu-ra has skills, blow me. he cant have intelligence, depth and skills? or do they cancel each other out? sorry i didnt know you were national rap god. sorry for ruining this thread by mentioning dilated and afu-ra in the same post. and by the way, i spell skills with an s, not a z, you bitch

-Pat-

'hey when are you guys gonna start using snowlerblades to go around those faggot gates!?' -philou after seeing a guy on 158cm race skis
 
Peace to skipimp repping the 36 chambers but what about the GZA man?? The fucking soul of the clan. Neil your a faggot. Um I'm a homo cuz I like.. shut the fuck up. You just said you liked ja rule, stop fucking stealing me culture. I am taking you for what you are and you need to get your shit straight , you're more pop than murder inc bitch. Don't tell me to do drugs because I do and that is why I'm so angry you little fags who say weed 'elevates you' or makes you positive need to be real with yourselves. I was wrong to flame at you but I stand by it. I've been listening to hip hop since the golden years (93) and I'm sick and tired of people jumping on the bandwagon. You guys don't see what I'm talking about cause most of you are just jumping on. Conscious hip hop is becoming more and more popular, hence most of you listen to mighty mos etc. The fact remains you guys are just measuring coccks, naming names to see who know the more underground acts. Hip hop is my culture, my way of life. I live in a place where I don't identify with too many people. Hip hop is what gets me through me day. Which elevates me from the immaturity and bullshit of highschool.I know that 80% of you are exactly the people I'm trying to get away from, and I get really frustrated when you steal my culture man. You know how hard its been for these artists to do what they do?? You know how hard its been for me to be what and who I am regardless of wether its cool or not?? I know that three quarters of you were the assholes throwin rocks and calling little tim wigger in pre 1999. I know very few of you are truely hip hop because you never talk about breaks, samples, beats lyrical styles but simply drop names. The essence of the hip hop i listen to is freedom and when large corperations begin to peddle the wears, corperations which are getting rich off the backs of the third world, who are continuing to promote modern day slavery, they are stealing culture. I will never buy a hip hop cd from an hmv because I will support heads like myself trying to make a business out of hip hop and local artists. Most of you just don't understand, telling me to go and get high, don't you get escapism is what comercial rap is about, I smoke drugs for different reasons, never to escape from you fools. In no way am I telling you what is good and what isn't (on the basic level like ja rule maybee) I'm simply asking you to except who you are and to stop stealing what isn't your and you don't understand. You talk to any of the artists you just dropped when they talk about hip hop its not naming names its about ciphers its about producers it's about who's influenced by whos philosophy its not about names its about hip hop. I am just a boy with a chocolate blunt and Miles Davis' Kind of Blue in my headphones reading about K and trying to graduate from highschool all I ask is for you to not take what isn't yours.

Peace

 
Just not too sure why you are so pissed off. You say that Hip-hop helps you calm down and get through a day??? obviously you havnt been listening to enough of it then.

Good Old English
 
yeah good points c-lo. but dont stereotype too much man.

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Thanks tjm is nice to meat someone who can identify with kind of blue, it blows my mind how anyone can claim to be a head but never heard that album, straight dope. Anyway, you haven't been here that long and whenever hip hop comes up its just name dropping, no justification. I'm not stereotyping please believe me over the last 10 years I've talked to alot of people about hip hop and this is what I have come to know and understand I know who the real heads are on this site and I don't see any of them (gomer) on this thread, I hear you guys talk about other shit and its clear to me that hip hop does not have a great influence on your lifes. thats nice if you want to pick up a good album but simply respect where it came from, respect that the RZA or double k had to dig through crates for 8 hours to get those four breaks, respect that k-os read and thought for years to right that one verse and these artists are not just names to be dropped. Lets be real with eachother most of the true heads I meat aren't white, most of the rappers I listen to aren't white, when I go to shows the people I am the minority and hear this shit everyday, at school in record shops at the skateparks cofee shop white boys just dropping names you make it that much harder for me when i go to shows when I go to record stores. When I talk to the real heads I already feel like I have something to prove just because people like you ruin it for me by simply dropping names and refusing to recognize all other elements of hip hop. Peace to gomer, tjm co-flow and everyone else on this site who truely understands hip hop, I'm done trying to explain myself, I can't make you see you have to discover for yourself.

Peace

 
yo, c-lo. Thankyou for being much more respectable in your last point. It really helps to not swear and insult other people when you write about your opinions. I do agress with you, and I can see that you were talking to me about just dropping names and not caring about the effort, talent and time that goes into hip-hop music. I'm underage and I live in Canada so going to see concerts is difficult, one; because getting into the concerts when they do come is risky and difficult because I am underage, and two; becuase hip-hop artists don't visit my country as often as they do yours (infact they live in yours so visiting is irrelevant). However, I still have a great respect for these artists. I can't say that I understand everything they go through, from writing lyrics, to finding a producer to selling their albums, but I still am not just the avergae guy who listens to the beats, see if it has a catchy tune, and then go on to the next song. I listen to what they have to say, listen to their style, try to understand why they are saying what they are saying, and then listen to the beat and determine (in my own opinion of course) how well the beat goes with the lyrics. I'm sorry If I offended you by listing some of my favorite Hip-hop artists, but I wasn't trying to just impress everyone here by listing who I thoght was cool in the 'hip-hop world'. I actually listen to those artists and have a great respect for their music and culture.

Good Old English
 
isnt nelly REAL hiphop???ok, so hes not...but he sure claims it...that sure dissapoints me

'When I'm mad as fuck you get shot and to some it's bad luck, I believe you held something back for too long, it grew strong and energy got its own will, and people think that we make music still, but music is there without you or me we just minipulate for better or worse so let it situate.'
 
man I just did the ultimate 48 hour hip hop journey. The Rascalz, Swollen Members and De la all in one weekend. Swlooen let me down, but de la was fuckin off da hook! thats the only way to describe it. I didn't mention GZA, cause I could mention all the members, cause they all rip up the shit..Ol dirty I don't respect as much, I don't think he's very smart...actually i think hes a dumb mofo. Method man has skill, but he's starting to change..what he sings about, he's losing his intregity. AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LISTEN TO THE WU BECAUSE THEY'RE SELL OUTS....YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT HIP HOP. Don't know shit. They are the backbone, sure they get alot of popularity...mostly because they can make songs for all the different kinds of people that listen to rap. you goy Gravel Pit for the clubbin type, and Triumph for the real connaisseurs, and theres shit like baby, i got yo money by ol dirty for the people who like the beets and like to be able to sing along....theres so much music by them, Wu-Tang's here forever, motherfuckers.

I don't expect people to relate to people like c-lo, I hope that a lot of people can't relate. Everyone is trying to be unique in their own way..and there's is a lifestyle that real hip hop supports that's not a facade. but hey, Everyone has their own shit they love. I just love a hell of a lot of shit. Word to the motherfucker. I love that line. The best show I have ever seen was Afu-Ra in Ottawa. Man the energy..you knew there were no rough thug wannabes lookin for fights, Everyone felt comfortable, It was awesome...He is an artist. his new album Body of the Lifeforce.....A MUST! best CD EVER!!

buy it

now

'Fuckin injuns'

'Fuckin injuns'

'Man, it's like all my ass hairs are knotting toghether and when i walk, it's like, OW! SHIT! MOTHERFUCKER!!' - my bud greg on a hike

SUck My AnTeAtEr
 
yall mutha fuckas, are dip shits, listen to the smooth ass styles that u like, support who ever the fuck u like. why should i support the local kids if i dont like there shit, so i can say im hip, and that i donnt go to hmv, god please. your pethatic and take this shit to seriosly, cant beleve u evan try to tell me what u should be knodding my head to, in my bedroom, i listen to what sounds good to me, if a dip shit likes jay-z let him be! its a pointliss battle agsnt this pop mc's who are only in it to get money,

 
I understand where all you are comin from, hence my name. Some people just don't know and u can't blame them for that, but be respectful and understand that to some people, this is more than just 'music' its a way of life, or a major part at that. I can't stand my roommates listening to ja rule or dr dre, bone thugs, any of that hyped up, over commercialized shit. And ludacris? come the fuck on, just cause a guy can babble and make it rhyme for 3 and a half minutes doesn't mean he has skills, and then he goes and jacks the dilated beat (who jacked it from killah priest, but it was alchemist so it's ok). I come back and sit in my room some nights and just listen to music to escape, like c-lo. sometimes it may be afu ra, dilated, blackalicious, del, hitek, kwali, common, roots, mars ill, gangstarr, jedi mind, last emp, sage, self scientific, uknown prophets, atmosphere, unspoken heard, swollen members, cunninlynguists, etc. (is that enough names for you?) and other nights it may be coltrane, miles davis, or some other kind of music, I listen to it all. And sometimes i feel nostalgic and i throw in a little bdp or mc milk. I just bought the new j-live, and that shit is tight, 'nights like this' is off the charts. But i admit that i didn't really start listening to underground all the time until two years ago, and my first underground album was gangstarr-moment of truth, ever since i heard the monotone, i was stuck. You can say i jumped on the bandwagon or whatever, but its only myself and one other person i know that listen to it, so i don't feel that way. If you're on the mainstream, at least check out some old eminem off the infinite lp, just so that you know his persona is bullshit (that shit pisses me off more than anything). Stay true to who you are, and if you're a head, then nod it, if not, keep on the upper floor, we'll be in the basement. 'if the revolution ain't gon' be televised, then fuck, I'll prolly miss it' -Aesop Rock

 
An entertainment is something which distracts us or diverts us from the routine of daily life. It makes us for the time being forget our cares and worries; it interrupts our conscious thoughts and habits, rests our nerves and minds, though it may incidentally exhaust our bodies. Art, on the other hand, though it may divert us from the normal routine of our existence, causes us in some way or other to become conscious of that existence. -Sir Herbert Read

For most, music is the first, for some, it's the ladder. be respectful for those who respect the artform and not just the entertainer. for me, if music does not leave me contemplating something deeper than 'money, cash, hoes, ice, etc.' then I don't need to listen, but if it's your thing, then do it, but don't claim to know the underground, cause you haven't even cracked the surface, shit, in two years i'm barely below it. If it's on mtv then it's not underground and 99% of the time it doesn't have 'skills or skillz'. Remember, 'It's all sunshine, nothin but sunshine'-slug. any real heads, hit me up with a private message to talk about the artform.

 
del kills it, and ive seen him on mtv once. well mtv2...i think mtv sucks. it was dope back when it was music videos, now its road rules and shit like that...it sucks

'When I'm mad as fuck you get shot and to some it's bad luck, I believe you held something back for too long, it grew strong and energy got its own will, and people think that we make music still, but music is there without you or me we just minipulate for better or worse so let it situate.'
 
Who has Ice cubes War and Peace album?

'Fuckin injuns'

'Fuckin injuns'

'Man, it's like all my ass hairs are knotting toghether and when i walk, it's like, OW! SHIT! MOTHERFUCKER!!' - my bud greg on a hike

SUck My AnTeAtEr
 
yo c_lo! am i still hiphop? lol, not fuckin wit ya man,

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c lo has it down. me and my freind do performances here and there its hard man youll never know until youve actually experienced it.

 
i don't really get what the whole point of c_lo's ramble was about, if there really was a point? people under the stairs is good, souls of mischeof, i like j5, abstract rde, atmosphere, dilated peoples, common, but guess what all? im a fucking punker so i guess ya gotta kick my ass now

don't do sleep and get 8 hours of drugs
 
I know I said I was done but I'm glad to see someof you know what I'm talking about. I was at the same shows as you skipimp (minus de la) it woulda been better if they had longer sets and it wasn't half punk, but I still loved it. Giggles buddy hows the new big tymers treating ya?? Let me geuss your listening to the new eminmem song with a crooked ny hat (your from wisconsin) and some fake chain you picked up for 12 dollars with a slick pair of excos. You're out of your frame of refrence, divert your eyes from this. Gomer is deffinitly hip hop man, that wu song is sick you told me about. I'm glad that someone finally metioned the one of the best albums of the year, all of the above (j-live), it's so dope especially considering its coming from a 5 percenter. I live in canada to, I still see shows. In the last year i've seen p.u.t.s., rascalz, swollen and thats it. But you know what, you go to toronto, van city wherever and you find ciphers man. Hip hop is alive in every city you just need to look a little harder. Just pick up any jazz album with singing and listen for a good break and then think about looping that, if you have a production program on your computer try it, then you will know what I'm talking about. And if you're going to claim devotion to an artist please take it deeper than the music. It makes me so mad when someone tells me they're a huge wu fan and can't tell me what a snake 85er or earth is.

Peace

 
ph yeah, what you into..thrice? strung out? death by stereo?good rddance? dead kennedys? wersc? Grade? less than jake? the get up kids? propagandhi? The bouncing souls? Straight faced? Jimmy eat world? No use for a name? The Used?...I like a lot of shit.

'Fuckin injuns'

'Fuckin injuns'

'Man, it's like all my ass hairs are knotting toghether and when i walk, it's like, OW! SHIT! MOTHERFUCKER!!' - my bud greg on a hike

SUck My AnTeAtEr
 
I got the k-os cd last year and it's tight. I give him so much respect. It took him 27 years to make his first album (so he says). In actuallity, he left the industry cause he couldn't stand the bullshit, the a and r execs and the broken promises, etc., but then he came back a few years later and decided to get back into it. If you wanna hear someone that's put it all into an album, listen to that or j-live: the best part. That album has shit from all the way back in 88. Anyway, it's just rambling, but i gotta pay it forward for them because of their dedication to the artform.

 
c-lo, i dont like the way u stereotype me... just cuz i dissagree, u put me in a diffrent class then i truley be. i dont sport exco or any of that shit, i sport the close that make me feel hip, but evan if a did, who gives a shit, i understand how hip hop is a big part of u, and for that i respect you, i dont take hip hop as serisoly as you, but i do like to sit and listen to smooth toons, i love what dead preaz, has made, his song are so smooth, and they make u think, like in the song 'probraganda' i like the line 'people made god out of ignorince and fear. if god made people why would of he put us her. you think u would have let hittler put jews in the oven....' i dont no, i dont no much about him or where his from but i like his songs and what he says in them. if u got a probiblim with that, well sorry for being who i am.

 
Sorry theres lots of mistakes in that peace of writing, cuz im tierd and about to go to bed, but id like to atleast correct his name.... 'dead prez'

 
Fuckin ludacris is THE MAN!

hes got wicked style i love it...

there a bunch of other shit too that i enjoy..

like jurassic 5 and souls of mischief...and someother gooders..heiroglyphics..

Hey yo, im bringin' it down with the sick boyz crew

Ill urban jibs is what we do

People barf, when we throw down

Cause the SBC is the illest in the town.
 
ludacris?........ok.....well i see someone didn't read this thread.

'Fuckin injuns'

'Fuckin injuns'

'Man, it's like all my ass hairs are knotting toghether and when i walk, it's like, OW! SHIT! MOTHERFUCKER!!' - my bud greg on a hike

SUck My AnTeAtEr
 
Nelly is super underground you guys should check his shit out!!

fags

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