13708209:I_liketobutter said:
I suppose it all depends on the type of carving you want to do. I came from skiing FIS slalom, so 12.5m turn radius. Lizzies have 17m which is a hell of a lot of fun and shorter than most twins out there. Sure it's not a super high speed carver, but its a shit load of fun linking slalom sized turns together. It's also cambered, no rocker....well, until you ski them 100+ days, then they become zero rocker.
That's cool man, and about the camber......the Elizabeth didn't have early rise in the tip and tail? I could've sworn they were flat cambered and had early rise...damn I'm getting old. My bad. Really cool ski all the same. Watching GFunk ski those bad boys was revelatory and really opened a new lane for park skiing.
13708223:baby_HC said:
No people slarve powder everyday, and you can thank
McConkey for that. A dreadful technique, looks bad, and makes a real mess of the mountain-side. This is why I stopped watching all backcountry vids years ago. I occasionally watch CT because he looks like a comet more than anything.
Says Shane from link above:
- Just slide or carve your turns as you choose. Or do both and "slarve" 'em
- Stop bouncing and forget about the up-and-down motion. You don't need it to actively float rockered skis because the opposite camber keeps them on top of the snow. Don't be afraid to go fast. If you need to control your speed, just throw them sideways.
[you got yourself a mini-avalanche right there]
- Your tips and tails won't be pushing into the snow, so this is the easiest and quickest way to get your skis around.
- Jump into narrow chutes and slarve. Rockered skis will be in constant contact with the snow — just swish them around.
D-bags think they ski, but they are merely wiping the mountain.
I am tempted to totally ignore this post because you don't really address the central point, that being that generating slough is completely unavoidable. As for your claim that all people simply swivel around in powder, it just isn't true.
People do carve turns in powder, and they still generate slough....you know, because it's physics. Even a pure carve will displace snow, and guess what happens when that snow is displaced? It goes downhill, accelerates, and entraps more snow.
Carving on piste doesn't displace snow because only the 2mm of edge or whatever is in contact with the snow. In a meter of fresh snow, laying the skis on edge doesn't change the fact that the base of the ski when angulated acts like a plow and from the midpoint of the turn to the bottom of the turn before releasing the edge, you will push a shit ton of snow down the hill, it's guaranteed.
And, you have an incredibly rigid idea about what constitutes skiing for a guy so invested in attempting to redefine what's possible in skiing.
How can you wear head necklaces to align your chakras and give you the balls to rollerblade but also disparage people using all kinds of turn styles and shapes to move through terrain? There's nothing at all ugly about surfy smear turns. In fact, I think they're fucking sexy, and I'm not alone. Well placed smears and slarves are tools to be used like any other turn shape. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't ever want to watch someone do nothing but medium radius carved turns down a face.
And, somehow trying to disparage Shane is just gross. He opened a world of possibilities by introducing new ski designs. His contributions as a skier, ski designer, ambassador, and a human being are staggering.
Good to see you're still NS's numero uno shit poster, shows real commitment on your part. I'm going to head in to that other thread and probably argue another one of your stupid posts, see you over there, dude.
