U of U or MSU

[207]

I was in Worcester but this is my exact experience Freshman year as well.

(Luckily Worcester is a little more lawless and there were a few bars that would serve underage but I was shocked to find myself going out to bars vs. house parties as an 18 year old.)

The WOO! Did you go to Holy Cross, Clark, Assumption, or WPI? I'd honestly rather live in Worcester than Boston these days there's way more culture and its a shithole but its MY SHITHOLE.

 

[dwt802]

Yup, exactly.

MSU was easy for me to get into and I got decent scholarships, plus I didn't even have to write an essay- just 2 reasons why I wanted to go!

The caveat of both schools is they have a tremendous dropout rate. MSU has a graduation rate of 51% and that's actually a lot better than past years. Like by the end of freshman year roughly 1/3 of all my friends had either dropped out or transferred schools. So it's easy for a lot of people to get in- but a lot never finish.

The dropout rate and culture at MSU is definitely a thing. After freshman and sophomore year around 1/3rd of my friends had dropped out too.

I think this is due to a few different reasons, mostly being that it's easy to get in here but isn't easy to breeze through college like it is high school, and college just really isn't made for everyone, and I think a good amount of homies in that boat end up at MSU. The other main reason I think the drop rate is so high at MSU is due to the administration being shitty, fucking people over with scholarships and financial aid. Personally, I'm on track to graduate still in 4 years but for many departments at MSU that is quite a challenge due to the lack of classes actually offered (not what they say they offer but do in reality) and being over populated. My advisor told me they're still down on the total number of professors since covid and the incoming freshman size is a record high every year since then. The worst part is that the school just doesn't seem to care. As a result of not getting into classes I need to to get my environmental science degree in 4 years, a third of the classes I've taken are outside of the major such as sociology and psychology that my advisor is calling environmental science classes... They really make it a challenge to stay on track, they want you on a 5-6 year plan...

 

[GrandThings]

The WOO! Did you go to Holy Cross, Clark, Assumption, or WPI? I'd honestly rather live in Worcester than Boston these days there's way more culture and its a shithole but its MY SHITHOLE.

Lol Holy Cross unfortunately

 

[GrandThings]

Fun fact tho, Wallisch and John Ware hit a bunch of rails on Holy Cross' campus in the first Good Company movie/episode. One was right outside my freshman dorm that I walked up looked at literally everyday and the other was down by our football stadium

 

[207]

You must be decently smart. My gparents lived 3 houses up from Holy Cross on the hill. Many fond memories growing up. Highlights of going to visit them on Thanksgiving were Eastern Boarder black friday and Wachusett opening day right after thanksgiving. Insane rails on holy cross not only the football field one i used to love peeping as a kid as well as in worcester on burncoat and that dicks sporting goods and black stone shopping village. Hope you liked my trip down memory lane.

Fun fact tho, Wallisch and John Ware hit a bunch of rails on Holy Cross' campus in the first Good Company movie/episode. One was right outside my freshman dorm that I walked up looked at literally everyday and the other was down by our football stadium

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[GrandThings]

You must be decently smart.

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Ehh I pose haha

Holy Cross is a great school and it's definitely helped get me to where I am in my career but if I could do it over again I would go to a different school. Its SUPER academically focused and there's really not much of a party scene at all (which I know isn't important but now being a graduate and hearing about other people's college experiences I get huge fomo.) I played Ultimate frisbee and was lucky to find a close group of "alternative/artsy" friends but the average HC student is a rich conservative prep school kid, which was a culture shock to me coming from a working class family in southern Maine

Worcester is super dope tho and especially nowadays really on the up-and-up! First time I smoked weed was in my friend's Tiguan right outside that Dicks in Blackstone haha. Good mems

 

[utahnewb]

Been seeing this thread a lot lately and I was in the same boat. What I can tell you is that it really depends on what your priorities are in college. If you value actual education even a bit, go to U of U hands down. It has way more resources and connections post college than MSU could dream of. I think U of U has better skiing for sure and its a lot closer so less driving unless the canyons are screwed up. Where MSU makes up for it is that it is probably easier to make friends in Bozeman than Utah in general. It is a much smaller school too. What I can say from personal experience is that as an introvert, I actually have had a better time at a larger school, crazy i know. Bozeman might also have a better party scene, but that is debatable. If you are big on sports and school spirit stuff go to U of U. If you have ever wanted to compete, Utah has better options with their freeride team being top notch. I dont know how good u are at skiing but if you havent been skiing since age 2 it can be intimidating in UT. Its like everyone is amazing or they don't ski at all.

 

[muffMan.]

Been seeing this thread a lot lately and I was in the same boat. What I can tell you is that it really depends on what your priorities are in college. If you value actual education even a bit, go to U of U hands down. It has way more resources and connections post college than MSU could dream of. I think U of U has better skiing for sure and its a lot closer so less driving unless the canyons are screwed up. Where MSU makes up for it is that it is probably easier to make friends in Bozeman than Utah in general. It is a much smaller school too. What I can say from personal experience is that as an introvert, I actually have had a better time at a larger school, crazy i know. Bozeman might also have a better party scene, but that is debatable. If you are big on sports and school spirit stuff go to U of U. If you have ever wanted to compete, Utah has better options with their freeride team being top notch. I dont know how good u are at skiing but if you havent been skiing since age 2 it can be intimidating in UT. Its like everyone is amazing or they don't ski at all.

MSU sports are surprisingly big. Having no major sports means college games are the main attraction for some folks. Also I agree that U of U is a better school, but you can still get tons of connections at MSU too.

plus all I’ve heard is how sucky the town of SLC can be, Bozeman is very chill and laid back. Also the drive to bridger is

 

[utahnewb]

MSU sports are surprisingly big. Having no major sports means college games are the main attraction for some folks. Also I agree that U of U is a better school, but you can still get tons of connections at MSU too.

plus all I’ve heard is how sucky the town of SLC can be, Bozeman is very chill and laid back. Also the drive to bridger is

This is true. SLC can for good reasons be seen as a strange place depending on vantage point. I’ve heard that making friends in SLC is very hard and that U of U is like an island. Living in SLC I can’t say I want to stay long term

 

[butterflywatcher]

Thought abt NAU?