yea man i guess, i just dont understand why all ns has to think summer set ups are too expensive? not directed at you, just i have built a 20ft pvc shot gun, ply wood covered sides, for $50, split between me and my friend thats $25 a pop, and monday i built a fruit boot rail, for $20, thats 8 feet long, 2 pvc pipes, and is made of 2x6's basicllay, its not as expensive and the cost eventually makes it last longer