Two cops killed in New York

[SpookyCat]

Dont sit there and say the left is innocent. Theyre just as guilty as fox and the right for creating outrage.

Where did he write that? I love bipartisan jackoffs like you. You say something negative and true about the biggest propaganda network in the world and instead of agreeing, the ones who associate themselves with the "red party" go, "omg but like CNN race baits and like causes outrage!"

No, the networks aren't causing outrage, neither is Al Sharpton- who a lot of people regardless of race absolutely hate. The hundreds of cases a year of cops gunning down unarmed citizens because they were "scared" and the obvious racial tensions that have been building up over the past 50 years is causing outrage. Fox News does a brilliant job of convincing their target audience (middle to upper class white people) there isn't an issue when there clearly is one, or causing outrage and fear over non-issues.

At the end of the day, you're a moron if you take CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. as literal truth. Its all garbage. The U.S. was built upon racism and still functions on that notion. If you don't think racism is still a very serious issue in today's society, then you're guilty of being the most ignorant and horrible type of person.

 

[Byron_tha_gr8]

The hundreds of cases a year of cops gunning down unarmed citizens because they were "scared" and the obvious racial tensions that have been building up over the past 50 years is causing outrage. Fox News does a brilliant job of convincing their target audience (middle to upper class white people) there isn't an issue when there clearly is one, or causing outrage and fear over non-issues.

At the end of the day, you're a moron if you take CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. as literal truth. Its all garbage. The U.S. was built upon racism and still functions on that notion. If you don't think racism is still a very serious issue in today's society, then you're guilty of being the most ignorant and horrible type of person.

 

[Byron_tha_gr8]

And also there was clearly enough anger to drive a man to murder two cops for no reason other than being cops.

i think it would shock most of you living in the sheltered white world that you do how common this anger is.

Maybe try asking what creates anger that illogical and extreme. Or keep trying to attack the symptoms, since that has worked so well throughout history.

 

[987321654hgfd]

i think it would shock most of you living in the sheltered white world that you do how common this anger is.

Classic going with the sheltered argument.

 

[Bombogenesis]

i think it would shock most of you living in the sheltered white world that you do how common this anger is.

Maybe try asking what creates anger that illogical and extreme. Or keep trying to attack the symptoms, since that has worked so well throughout history.

Shut

The

Hell

Up

 

[Byron_tha_gr8]

Classic going with the sheltered argument.

is it wrong? Maybe its classic because its true. How the fuck do you think you have ANY idea what its like to be discriminated against by authorities? If it was happening to all you white people daily, youd be furious. You would all be pissed enough to defend a cop killer.

So unless that is your reality, and it is mine and millions of others, how the fuck do you think you know what youre talking about.

 

[Bombogenesis]

is it wrong? Maybe its classic because its true. How the fuck do you think you have ANY idea what its like to be discriminated against by authorities? If it was happening to all you white people daily, youd be furious. You would all be pissed enough to defend a cop killer.

So unless that is your reality, and it is mine and millions of others, how the fuck do you think you know what youre talking about.

You are so immeasurably stupid... It's actually mind boggling.

 

[.MASSHOLE.]

On a brighter note, the Yankees are willing to pay for the education of Officer Ramos's children. Classy move.

 

[Byron_tha_gr8]

You are so immeasurably stupid... It's actually mind boggling.

going with the not responding to any of what i said. Classic.

 

[Bombogenesis]

going with the not responding to any of what i said. Classic.

Why would I respond to anyone who tries to justify the shooting of two innocent police officers day before Christmas because of some perceived bad hand that you've been dealt? You're a bad person and perpetuating some serious stereotypes right now, just stop.

 

[Byron_tha_gr8]

Why would I respond to anyone who tries to justify the shooting of two innocent police officers day before Christmas because of some perceived bad hand that you've been dealt? You're a bad person and perpetuating some serious stereotypes right now, just stop.

Lets break this down. "Tries to justify the shooting of two innocent police officers", do you not see the irony in your anger? Next. "Before Christmas" Yeah idgaf when someone innocent gets killed, its still an innocent, tragic death. Doesn't matter when it is, and it doesnt matter who it is. Unless they deserve to die for their actions, they should be punished (or not punished)equally. Using Christmas to try to make it more emotional is just trying to get rid of logic and use feelings to justify how these two dieing is any more tragic than ANY of the other murders that take place in America daily.

"You're a bad person and perpetuating some serious stereotypes right now" hahahahahaha. Have you ever had cops follow you to your own house in a wealthy white neighborhood and try to arrest you for robbing it? Have you ever had a family member get stabbed for wearing a wire the cops made him wear? Been the only person charged with possession in a car full of kids? Had a cop pull over friends leaving your house to try to prove you're selling weed? Been forced to the ground, put in handcuffs, and get charged with nothing because you did nothing wrong?

If you have, then youd get why non white people are pissed. Every one of those things has happened to me, and when you're not white that's often the case. And unless you deal with that threat from your own authorities, you don't know jack shit about what its like or where anger that results in 2 innocent cops getting killed comes from.

But pls, tell me how hard it is being you and how the cops that got killed are just the single most sad and tragic death youve ever seen.

If i saw this outrage at EVERY injustice, then it would make sense. But of course, youre going to follow what the media decided was important, and only be angry at this one case.

Its like anti-gays and the bible. Selective use of logic. Its kind of funny. Sometimes the elevator just can't get to the top floor.

 

[Bombogenesis]

"You're a bad person and perpetuating some serious stereotypes right now" hahahahahaha. Have you ever had cops follow you to your own house in a wealthy white neighborhood and try to arrest you for robbing it? Have you ever had a family member get stabbed for wearing a wire the cops made him wear? Been the only person charged with possession in a car full of kids? Had a cop pull over friends leaving your house to try to prove you're selling weed? Been forced to the ground, put in handcuffs, and get charged with nothing because you did nothing wrong?

You're right, I'm wrong. Those are all definitely justifiable reasons to defend a cop killer. My bad.

 

[Byron_tha_gr8]

You're right, I'm wrong. Those are all definitely justifiable reasons to defend a cop killer. My bad.

when that is the better end of it, and the worst end of it is people getting killed by cops, it doesnt make it justifiable, but it explains it. And maybe instead of spending all the time being pissed at the cop killer, you could try being pissed at the much bigger injustice that created it.

 

[Barefootin_Fiend]

Been the only person charged with possession in a car full of kids? Had a cop pull over friends leaving your house to try to prove you're selling weed? Been forced to the ground, put in handcuffs, and get charged with nothing because you did nothing wrong?

so let me get this straight....you had drugs on you and got busted, but you think it's because you are black. not because you actually broke the fucking law? then, after being busted with drugs, you're surprised that the cops look in to whether or not you're pushin? HOW DARE THEY!!!

 

[Byron_tha_gr8]

so let me get this straight....you had drugs on you and got busted, but you think it's because you are black. not because you actually broke the fucking law? then, after being busted with drugs, you're surprised that the cops look in to whether or not you're pushin? HOW DARE THEY!!!

drugs in the car, not actually mine, and the cops were in two entirley different states. And everything was dropped/purged/expunged after my white parents sent an expensive lawyer. In both situations, I broke no laws and was found to have broken no laws. Yet I was the only one the cops went after.

So yeah, it seems a bit fucked.

 

[Barefootin_Fiend]

drugs in the car, not actually mine, and the cops were in two entirley different states. And everything was dropped/purged/expunged after my white parents sent an expensive lawyer. In both situations, I broke no laws and was found to have broken no laws. Yet I was the only one the cops went after.

So yeah, it seems a bit fucked.

dropped and expunged are two different things....so which is it?

 

[akt416]

its shitty that things like this happen really. unfortunatly there are always gonna be people with their own beliefs and theres nothing we can do to change that, but the thing is racism wont stop until everyone sees everyone as the same. the fact alone that people are still refered to as "blacks" is racism in itself.

this isnt the way to solve problems, but you can see how things like this could put a cop on his toes when he deals with situations involving blacks

 

[deleted5]

its shitty that things like this happen really. unfortunatly there are always gonna be people with their own beliefs and theres nothing we can do to change that, but the thing is racism wont stop until everyone sees everyone as the same. the fact alone that people are still refered to as "blacks" is racism in itself.

this isnt the way to solve problems, but you can see how things like this could put a cop on his toes when he deals with situations involving blacks

by 2050 white people are going to be a minority in America. As of today there are more white people dying than white babies being born. That won't solve racism, but I have

A feeling it'll help it.

 

[Sno.]

its shitty that things like this happen really. unfortunatly there are always gonna be people with their own beliefs and theres nothing we can do to change that, but the thing is racism wont stop until everyone sees everyone as the same. the fact alone that people are still refered to as "blacks" is racism in itself.

this isnt the way to solve problems, but you can see how things like this could put a cop on his toes when he deals with situations involving blacks

Referring to black people as black people isn't any more racist than referring to white people as white people. There are different races in this world and acknowledging that in itself isn't racist. It's the attitudes and prejudices that people associate with "black" or "white" that is racist. Black people don't want their differences, their culture, their heritage, or their race taken away from them and for everyone to be considered exactly the same. They're just sick of their differences being associated with inferiority or stereotypes. Diversity is a good thing. Stereotypes and discrimination is what's bad. Let's not associate ridding discrimination with taking away people's identities.

 

[987321654hgfd]

is it wrong?

Yes it is wrong.

Sheltered is being "protected from difficulties or unpleasant realities."

You don't know me or anything I've done in my life so using this logic you have no idea what I've seen or been exposed to in my life. So no, I am not sheltered and I know the world isn't a utopia.

 

[akt416]

Referring to black people as black people isn't any more racist than referring to white people as white people. There are different races in this world and acknowledging that in itself isn't racist. It's the attitudes and prejudices that people associate with "black" or "white" that is racist. Black people don't want their differences, their culture, their heritage, or their race taken away from them and for everyone to be considered exactly the same. They're just sick of their differences being associated with inferiority or stereotypes. Diversity is a good thing. Stereotypes and discrimination is what's bad. Let's not associate ridding discrimination with taking away people's identities.

i see what you mean and i dont mean taking away their cultural traditions and things like that, im just saying the fact that there are still social and geographical separation even in north america shows that there is a divide between the races and thats what needs to stop if we want to stop racism

 

[Zimmerman]

Stop treating cop killing like its any worse than normal human killing. It's not.

 

[987321654hgfd]

Stop treating cop killing like its any worse than normal human killing. It's not.

While I do agree that their actual lives are no more significant than other murder victims, they do represent something bigger than just their own lives.

 

[Sno.]

Stop treating cop killing like its any worse than normal human killing. It's not.

Wat? Not every murder is the same on the average person emotional justice scale. There's a difference between two cops being massacred and say...a child shooting their molester? Come on, man! Not all murders are equally disturbing.

 

[howlongcanausern]

don't you just love diversity?

 

[akt416]

exactly what i mean, the fact that there's still discussions and disagreements about racism proves its still a problem

 

[Bogs]

And maybe instead of spending all the time being pissed at the cop killer, you could try being pissed at the much bigger injustice that created it.

But why not be pissed at both? Can't I think it's wrong for cops to treat non-whites different from whites, but also think it's wrong to respond to this treatment by killing two cops who, for all anyone knows, never treated any non-white person unfairly in the act of duty? I think racial profiling is incredibly unjust, but that doesn't mean I'm sympathizing with anyone going around shooting random cops, because that's also incredibly unjust. As the old saying goes, two wrongs don't make a right.

the fact alone that people are still refered to as "blacks" is racism in itself.

Why is calling black people "black" racist? Is calling white people "white" racist? If anything, African-American is a more racist, offensive term than black because it implies that a black person can never just be an American, they always have to be noted as "African" first. Even blacks whose families have lived in America for hundreds of years aren't black Americans, but "African-Americans," while a white person who has just immigrated in America is called "white," and, implicitly, is a white American, not a "European-American." Also, not all black people come from Africa, so that assumption, which calling any black person in America "African-American" makes, is pretty racist in and of itself. I have black friends who were born in Jamaica and other islands in the Caribbean and moved to the U.S. when they were young. Should they also be called "African-American?"

 

[MicroMix]

by 2050 white people are going to be a minority in America. As of today there are more white people dying than white babies being born. That won't solve racism, but I have

A feeling it'll help it.

Demographics shifting won't stop racism. What people fail to realize is that bigotry is not exclusive to whites and that being uncomfortable with what is foreign to you is in our nature. The only thing that is going to help is the slow change to the belief that all members of society are equals regardless of race,age, orientation or sex. Unfortunately this is an ideal that will never be met 100% of the time.

 

[SpookyCat]

You are so immeasurably stupid... It's actually mind boggling.

Your ignorance in the face of these important social issues is really mind boggling... oh wait, your a white kid that grew up in an upper middle class family. Shocking you're a dumb shit.

 

[Zimmerman]

Wat? Not every murder is the same on the average person emotional justice scale. There's a difference between two cops being massacred and say...a child shooting their molester? Come on, man! Not all murders are equally disturbing.

That wasn't my claim. I'm saying that that they were cops doesn't make the crime worse than if they were not and that this doesn't warrant as much attention as it's getting. In NY there is no death penalty for murder unless you kill a cop. It's bullshit.

To those complaining against "hypocrisy" of protesters not protesting the cops deaths: It isn't hypocritical because the number of people murdered by cops is a lot greater than two.

That being said I still agree with most of you that this is awful and doesn't help anyone or anyone's cause.

 

[SpookyCat]

You're*

You're a moron.

 

[.MASSHOLE.]

That wasn't my claim. I'm saying that that they were cops doesn't make the crime worse than if they were not and that this doesn't warrant as much attention as it's getting. In NY there is no death penalty for murder unless you kill a cop. It's bullshit.

To those complaining against "hypocrisy" of protesters not protesting the cops deaths: It isn't hypocritical because the number of people murdered by cops is a lot greater than two.

That being said I still agree with most of you that this is awful and doesn't help anyone or anyone's cause.

I would argue that there is a difference between killing a cop and killing an innocent person. A cop is there to protect and serve, and depending on the location, putting their life on the line every day they put on their uniform. They do this not for themselves, but for the betterment of their community.

 

[Sno.]

That wasn't my claim. I'm saying that that they were cops doesn't make the crime worse than if they were not and that this doesn't warrant as much attention as it's getting. In NY there is no death penalty for murder unless you kill a cop. It's bullshit.

To those complaining against "hypocrisy" of protesters not protesting the cops deaths: It isn't hypocritical because the number of people murdered by cops is a lot greater than two.

That being said I still agree with most of you that this is awful and doesn't help anyone or anyone's cause.

Well as you know it isn't getting a lot of attention just because they're cops. It's because it's another component of the current race war and a directly related to Brown and Gardner which were already hot topics in the media. Obviously you know that, and I know I'm not informing you of anything here but like the other guy said..it isn't so much the murder of these two individuals as much as what the murder stands for when looking at the bigger picture. We've had some police murders here in Seattle that weren't in the national spotlight. This post was pointless wasn't it? I'm not saying anything that anyone doesn't know and I'm missing the seahawks game to do it.

 

[GayWolf420]

Where did he write that? I love bipartisan jackoffs like you. You say something negative and true about the biggest propaganda network in the world and instead of agreeing, the ones who associate themselves with the "red party" go, "omg but like CNN race baits and like causes outrage!"

No, the networks aren't causing outrage, neither is Al Sharpton- who a lot of people regardless of race absolutely hate. The hundreds of cases a year of cops gunning down unarmed citizens because they were "scared" and the obvious racial tensions that have been building up over the past 50 years is causing outrage. Fox News does a brilliant job of convincing their target audience (middle to upper class white people) there isn't an issue when there clearly is one, or causing outrage and fear over non-issues.

At the end of the day, you're a moron if you take CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. as literal truth. Its all garbage. The U.S. was built upon racism and still functions on that notion. If you don't think racism is still a very serious issue in today's society, then you're guilty of being the most ignorant and horrible type of person.

i should have elaborated a bit more, but i don't think i was saying the right has a clean slate themselves. i think i was getting at the idea that both sides paint pictures, but its not the case at all right now, so its old news. water under the bridge, fart in the wind, whatever you wanna call it.

what i wanna know is why Byron thinks killing cops is going to solve the problem. its nothing against you or anything, im just curious to know why you think it solves the issue. Obviously our law enforcement agencies are fucked up along with a strong sense of racism that still lives in America, but i don't think fighting fire with fire eradicates our problems completely. That's just going to make cops want to shoot black people even more.

 

[.Hugo.]

That wasn't my claim. I'm saying that that they were cops doesn't make the crime worse than if they were not and that this doesn't warrant as much attention as it's getting.

Its getting a substantially less amount if attention than the deaths of brown and garner. I think this one was on my local news once and thats probably only because of the instagram posts by the dude

 

[Sno.]

I would argue that there is a difference between killing a cop and killing an innocent person. A cop is there to protect and serve, and depending on the location, putting their life on the line every day they put on their uniform. They do this not for themselves, but for the betterment of their community.

Right..this is why cop murders get more attention and perhaps get bigger reactions.

 

[.Hugo.]

i should have elaborated a bit more, but i don't think i was saying the right has a clean slate themselves. i think i was getting at the idea that both sides paint pictures, but its not the case at all right now, so its old news. water under the bridge, fart in the wind, whatever you wanna call it.

what i wanna know is why Byron thinks killing cops is going to solve the problem. its nothing against you or anything, im just curious to know why you think it solves the issue. Obviously our law enforcement agencies are fucked up along with a strong sense of racism that still lives in America, but i don't think fighting fire with fire eradicates our problems completely. That's just going to make cops want to shoot black people even more.

Byron just thinks he knows the ghetto life because he is 1/4 black, even though hes lived in wealthy areas his entire life

 

[GayWolf420]

Byron just thinks he knows the ghetto life because he is 1/4 black, even though hes lived in wealthy areas his entire life

if he is trolling, then its whatever, but i legitimately want to know why violence is the answer, which probably will create more problems, more shootings, and more dead people.

 

[Byron_tha_gr8]

by 2050 white people are going to be a minority in America. As of today there are more white people dying than white babies being born. That won't solve racism, but I have

A feeling it'll help it.

Thank god, can't wait

 

[Bombogenesis]

Your ignorance in the face of these important social issues is really mind boggling... oh wait, your a white kid that grew up in an upper middle class family. Shocking you're a dumb shit.

If being angry when someone champions the killing of two innocent people is ignorant, then damn right I'm ignorant.

 

[Bombogenesis]

2 down, few thousand more to go!

"I'm gonna give pigs wings", lmao what a boss

Bump for hate

 

[Casey]

Thank god, can't wait

We'll still control shit. Get back to work.

 

[akt416]

Why is calling black people "black" racist? Is calling white people "white" racist? If anything, African-American is a more racist, offensive term than black because it implies that a black person can never just be an American, they always have to be noted as "African" first. Even blacks whose families have lived in America for hundreds of years aren't black Americans, but "African-Americans," while a white person who has just immigrated in America is called "white," and, implicitly, is a white American, not a "European-American." Also, not all black people come from Africa, so that assumption, which calling any black person in America "African-American" makes, is pretty racist in and of itself. I have black friends who were born in Jamaica and other islands in the Caribbean and moved to the U.S. when they were young. Should they also be called "African-American?"[/QUOTE]

youre missing what im saying, when people think of blacks and whites and any other race, theres differences that anyone could think of. im not talking physical differences but stereotypes. no race or religion or any other social group should have to listen to other people telling them whats the right way to live, nor have to give up any cultural traditions they have, but the stereotypes are what need to go if we want to actually end racism. i have nothing against any race because i really couldnt care less what the rest of the world thinks of them, but theres always gonna be people with shitty opinions on stuff and we cant change that

 

[Sno.]

Why is calling black people "black" racist? Is calling white people "white" racist? If anything, African-American is a more racist, offensive term than black because it implies that a black person can never just be an American, they always have to be noted as "African" first. Even blacks whose families have lived in America for hundreds of years aren't black Americans, but "African-Americans," while a white person who has just immigrated in America is called "white," and, implicitly, is a white American, not a "European-American." Also, not all black people come from Africa, so that assumption, which calling any black person in America "African-American" makes, is pretty racist in and of itself. I have black friends who were born in Jamaica and other islands in the Caribbean and moved to the U.S. when they were young. Should they also be called "African-American?"

youre missing what im saying, when people think of blacks and whites and any other race, theres differences that anyone could think of. im not talking physical differences but stereotypes. no race or religion or any other social group should have to listen to other people telling them whats the right way to live, nor have to give up any cultural traditions they have, but the stereotypes are what need to go if we want to actually end racism. i have nothing against any race because i really couldnt care less what the rest of the world thinks of them, but theres always gonna be people with shitty opinions on stuff and we cant change that

It isn't as simple as saying that stereotypes need to go away. Stereotypes would go away naturally if there wasn't self fulfilling prophecies due to institutionalized racism. In other words...Stereotypes exist because racism is so ingrained in our society that we contribute to their truth. "Legacies so ingrained in the way that we think that we no longer need chains to be slaves."

 

[SpookyCat]

A cop is there to protect and serve, and depending on the location, putting their life on the line every day they put on their uniform. They do this not for themselves, but for the betterment of their community.

Right, all cops are doing it for the betterment of their community... yes, none of them are doing it for the full medical coverage or for their ridiculous pension plans that bankrupt small towns, or because its the highest paid job they can get straight out of highschool.

Whenever someone says cops are underpaid, I laugh at them and tell them to look up how an officer's pension plan is worked out. I also laugh when they say they're risking their lives everyday like its Iraq. Most officers go their whole careers without firing a single shot and most officers are making 60-80k a year on pension plans by working special jobs like construction zones "controlling traffic" and overtime for two hard years... since pensions are determined on their two highest paid years. I personally know a police chief in a very small town who retired in his 50s and makes 120k a year on his pension.

Its also funny to see that most incidents where an officer kills an unarmed citizen because he "feared for his life" are in suburban areas with very low crime rates and almost always involves a minority.

I don't get why this site is full of kids who support the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality... then again they're all white, middle class boys who have never encountered a person of color who has had to deal with all the bullshit that comes with having a darker skin color.

 

[Bogs]

youre missing what im saying, when people think of blacks and whites and any other race, theres differences that anyone could think of. im not talking physical differences but stereotypes. no race or religion or any other social group should have to listen to other people telling them whats the right way to live, nor have to give up any cultural traditions they have, but the stereotypes are what need to go if we want to actually end racism. i have nothing against any race because i really couldnt care less what the rest of the world thinks of them, but theres always gonna be people with shitty opinions on stuff and we cant change that

I fail to see how anything you just said proves, or is even at all related to, your earlier statement that calling black people black is racist. I don't disagree with what you're saying, it just seems completely irrelevant to what I said.

 

[Sno.]

Right, all cops are doing it for the betterment of their community... yes, none of them are doing it for the full medical coverage or for their ridiculous pension plans that bankrupt small towns, or because its the highest paid job they can get straight out of highschool.

Whenever someone says cops are underpaid, I laugh at them and tell them to look up how an officer's pension plan is worked out. I also laugh when they say they're risking their lives everyday like its Iraq. Most officers go their whole careers without firing a single shot and most officers are making 60-80k a year on pension plans by working special jobs like construction zones "controlling traffic" and overtime for two hard years... since pensions are determined on their two highest paid years. I personally know a police chief in a very small town who retired in his 50s and makes 120k a year on his pension.

Its also funny to see that most incidents where an officer kills an unarmed citizen because he "feared for his life" are in suburban areas with very low crime rates and almost always involves a minority.

I don't get why this site is full of kids who support the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality... then again they're all white, middle class boys who have never encountered a person of color who has had to deal with all the bullshit that comes with having a darker skin color.

It doesn't matter what the intention is if the result is the same. In other words-- it doesn't matter if someone's intent wasn't for the betterment of the community but the result was just that. You don't give cops credit for bettering the community just because their motives are stable employment, and good retirement benefits? You sound jealous. Maybe you should become a cop since you seem to think they're living the lives of kings.

 

[Casey]

Right, all cops are doing it for the betterment of their community... yes, none of them are doing it for the full medical coverage or for their ridiculous pension plans that bankrupt small towns, or because its the highest paid job they can get straight out of highschool.

Whenever someone says cops are underpaid, I laugh at them and tell them to look up how an officer's pension plan is worked out. I also laugh when they say they're risking their lives everyday like its Iraq. Most officers go their whole careers without firing a single shot and most officers are making 60-80k a year on pension plans by working special jobs like construction zones "controlling traffic" and overtime for two hard years... since pensions are determined on their two highest paid years. I personally know a police chief in a very small town who retired in his 50s and makes 120k a year on his pension.

Its also funny to see that most incidents where an officer kills an unarmed citizen because he "feared for his life" are in suburban areas with very low crime rates and almost always involves a minority.

I don't get why this site is full of kids who support the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality... then again they're all white, middle class boys who have never encountered a person of color who has had to deal with all the bullshit that comes with having a darker skin color.

As a public employee I don't appreciate your characterization of police officers or other public employees.

 

[.MASSHOLE.]

Right, all cops are doing it for the betterment of their community... yes, none of them are doing it for the full medical coverage or for their ridiculous pension plans that bankrupt small towns, or because its the highest paid job they can get straight out of highschool.

Whenever someone says cops are underpaid, I laugh at them and tell them to look up how an officer's pension plan is worked out. I also laugh when they say they're risking their lives everyday like its Iraq. Most officers go their whole careers without firing a single shot and most officers are making 60-80k a year on pension plans by working special jobs like construction zones "controlling traffic" and overtime for two hard years... since pensions are determined on their two highest paid years. I personally know a police chief in a very small town who retired in his 50s and makes 120k a year on his pension.

Its also funny to see that most incidents where an officer kills an unarmed citizen because he "feared for his life" are in suburban areas with very low crime rates and almost always involves a minority.

I don't get why this site is full of kids who support the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality... then again they're all white, middle class boys who have never encountered a person of color who has had to deal with all the bullshit that comes with having a darker skin color.

The amount of stupid in this post is unreal.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the lowest 10 percent of cops earned less than $33,060, and the top 10 percent earned more than $93,450. The median wages for police and detective occupations in May 2012 were as follows: $74,300 for detectives and criminal investigators. $55,270 for police and sheriff's patrol officers.

The average household income in the United States, according to the US Census Bureau 2004 Economic Survey, was $60,528, or $17,210 (39.73%) higher than the median household income.

So, these cops making about average wage comparative to the rest of the country. But, as you said, pensions are a fickle thing. However, a quick google search will reveal that most communities are attempting to change how these pensions are distributed as they can be a drain.

So, before you spew anymore BS about the system, do some fact-checking before generalizing. Generalizations aren't helping anyone.

 

[joshharrison]

I laughed.