twintip vs straighttail

B

ByeBye363

Member
um i know it might be stupid, but how much does having a raised up tail slow you down, compared to reg skis? is it a lot or a little?

 
Not sure, i see kids racing on 1080s. I wouldn't think it would slow you down too much scince most of the pressure is under the boot. Almost all skis out now have some what of a turned up tail.

taste death,

live life
 
Im pretty sure it's because with the tip up it makes the ski shorter.. Compared to a normal ski. And seen as you goo faster due to the weight being spread over a greater surface area. BUt I don't think it should interfere that much

 
what i don't understand...

if the thing slowing them down is the lack of edge because it's turned up, why don't they just add a little length and it would be the same, and addin more length also to the raised tail wou;dn't affect the ride...

friends don't let friends snowblade
 
^Uh...or...you could buy a longer ski... that would make it longer. Just buy 181 1080s instead of 171. Then they dont have to make it longer.

Realistically though, most twins don't come in a good length for racing. I think madtrix come in 191 though, so they'd be good.

 
well yeah i do buy twins much bigger, but do you understand what i mean? i dunno, it's hard to explain, but i don't see why the height or length of the tail above snow affects anything

friends don't let friends snowblade
 
that's because it's 5-10cms shorter, dumbass, at the same length a twin is a shorter ski because the end is raised rather than touching the ground, god some of you guys are dumb

~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~

#Cut the Jibba Jabba Crazy Fools! Start Skiing!#

*Be greatful, everyday, for snow, mountains, gravity and skiing*

@Talent Is Important, But Image Is God!@

%Jesus Is My Homeboy%
 
there's no need to be pissed about this...

anyway, yes i understand, i'm just saying why don't they do what (i think it's k2) does and sell a 174 as a 170 or whatever

friends don't let friends snowblade
 
it's about effective edge, most twins turn up at the widest point in the tail, which gives you the max effective edge for that ski, other 'flat tail' skis taper back at the widest point of the tail some race skis don't in order to give more effective edge and a different turn shape. Turned up tails are more forgiving in loose snow, and a true twin is for switch and fakie landings, making it easier to achieve these sorts of tricks. You don't necessarily have to have a huge tail to do this sort of thing. Most twins have a forward mounting position making it easier to spin and ski switch, where most other skis with turned up tails have a more traditional mounting position making them ski different, alot of womens specific skis will have a slightly forward mount as well...

Ski Hard Retard!
 
I've found in my experience that twins can actually be a little less forgiving in the looser stuff. Maybe it's the slightly forward mounting and having to lean back further in softer snow allows the ski to almost roll back onto the rear tip a little, dunno but I find them less forgiving and that the nose thends to float off a lot more.

~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~

#Cut the Jibba Jabba Crazy Fools! Start Skiing!#

*Be greatful, everyday, for snow, mountains, gravity and skiing*

@Talent Is Important, But Image Is God!@

%Jesus Is My Homeboy%
 
give it a few years and everything will be twinned except for true race skis. how often do you see all-mountain snowboards with a flat tails? exactly.

------

i didn't come here with pants, and i'm not leaving with pants
 
That's a whole different sport though. Have you ever noticed how snow comes up over the tails of twin-tips and flies up in the air? I'd think that the drag caused by that would slow you down, but I guess all skis do that in some way or another so I don't know.

On my way to goddom
 
i dont think the snow sliding across the top of your ski would affect you at all... maybe .00000000000001 second... if that

 
i think the only thing hindering your race skiing is that twin tips, like scratches, are harder to carve with but you can carve and race fast on most ski's! if your a true racer i wouldnt think u'd buy some twin tips

 
Twin tip or race boards? If you're not going fast enough you're either not using the right wax, at a hill that's too small, or you suck. I wouldn't worry about shit like that, and what kind of poser trys to be a racer with their twin tips. They must really suck!

Arc 'em or park 'em
 
^^^Theres nothihng wrong with racing on twins, and just because they do doesnt mean they suck

_________________________________________________________

The point is ladies and gentlemen that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of it's forms - greed for life, for money, knowledge - has marked the upward surge of mankind and greed - you mark my words - will not only save Teldar Paper but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you. -> Wallstreet
 
Shorter skis are for the most part easier to race on. Would you want to race a modified GS on 181 1080's? I know i wouldn't. Having the tail touch the ground give you maximum surface area at minimum length. I'm sure there's more scientific reasons why flat-tails curve better, but i don't know it so whatever.

****************

FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SKANK!

Emo kids don't cry because they're sad all the time, they cry because they have to listen to that horrible music all the time. I'd cry if i had to listen to that over and over and over....wouldn't you?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top