Twin towers controlled demolitions?
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eastAR5
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oh aight fair enough
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ast coast 617
hahahaha, fuck you bitch. your the epitamy of a fucking faggot trying to act hard when your soft like your moms cumbersome pussy. ill fuck her to the left and fuck her to the right, then write you a letter about how it was so tight, you fucking bitch faggot. - Apesteadlives
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ast coast 617
hahahaha, fuck you bitch. your the epitamy of a fucking faggot trying to act hard when your soft like your moms cumbersome pussy. ill fuck her to the left and fuck her to the right, then write you a letter about how it was so tight, you fucking bitch faggot. - Apesteadlives
Sharpy
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if you look at the psychological profile of leaders from the past who have killed their own people, thye usually do it because they believe they are doing it for the greater good of many more. They think that by killing a few, they can save many. Thats how they morally justify their actions.
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^ regardless, Bush isn't necessarily responsible for such detrimental acts of violence... as much as you may want to disbeleive it, Bush is just a fucking puppet, he doen't run the country by any means
btw, to truly understand the capabilities of this conpiracy ridden gov. I suggest reading "The Northwoods Document"
you'll thoroughly understand how fucked up this world we live in truly is
btw, to truly understand the capabilities of this conpiracy ridden gov. I suggest reading "The Northwoods Document"
you'll thoroughly understand how fucked up this world we live in truly is
eastAR5
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bush crashed into a tree yesterday at one of his summer estates on his bike. He suffered minor scrapes and a tweaked ankle
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ast coast 617
hahahaha, fuck you bitch. your the epitamy of a fucking faggot trying to act hard when your soft like your moms cumbersome pussy. ill fuck her to the left and fuck her to the right, then write you a letter about how it was so tight, you fucking bitch faggot. - Apesteadlives
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ast coast 617
hahahaha, fuck you bitch. your the epitamy of a fucking faggot trying to act hard when your soft like your moms cumbersome pussy. ill fuck her to the left and fuck her to the right, then write you a letter about how it was so tight, you fucking bitch faggot. - Apesteadlives
TheProfitSkier
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that video made a good point, but i still dont believe tht shit
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ATLskier
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No poles, the sturcture of the building wasn't really weak. It was meant to have all the supports on the outer walls, not in the center. Becuase the airliners were loaded with enough fuel to go to california, they spread out enough fuel to melt the supports on the outside and cause one floor to collapse. Since one floor collapsed the weight of the floors above and the momentum of it falling was too much for the supports of the floor below. If the center of the building were stronger, it may not have collapsed. The twin towers were designed to withstand a jetliner, becuase they didn't fall down right as the planes hit. the fire from the jet fuel and hot temperatures that caused the steel to melt cause the towers to fall.
Demolitions aren't very simple. they can go wrong very easily and require a lot of work to work correctly. there is no way people could sneak in enough dynamite to bring them down and not have a leak of he conscience of someone speak out. It couldn't work. Besides, terrorists tried to bring it down before in feb 1993(I think). One terrorist that was found to be a major part of it said that it wans't the end, and that they would bring it down eventually. I have the quote in a book in my room. I will get it tomorrow.
Oh, yeah, I can't view vids on my computer, so this post is in response to people on this thread, not the vids.
i cant take him[liam downey] seriously cuz his name reminds me of that downy bear from back when i was a kid -d loc
I don't deny there are bad things in the US right now, hell, 51% of the country to be exact. But god damnit, our country being fat is NOT a problem. I do't give a shit how fat people are. hell, fat kids are harder to kidnap, that means our country is safer.
-Melvs
Demolitions aren't very simple. they can go wrong very easily and require a lot of work to work correctly. there is no way people could sneak in enough dynamite to bring them down and not have a leak of he conscience of someone speak out. It couldn't work. Besides, terrorists tried to bring it down before in feb 1993(I think). One terrorist that was found to be a major part of it said that it wans't the end, and that they would bring it down eventually. I have the quote in a book in my room. I will get it tomorrow.
Oh, yeah, I can't view vids on my computer, so this post is in response to people on this thread, not the vids.
i cant take him[liam downey] seriously cuz his name reminds me of that downy bear from back when i was a kid -d loc
I don't deny there are bad things in the US right now, hell, 51% of the country to be exact. But god damnit, our country being fat is NOT a problem. I do't give a shit how fat people are. hell, fat kids are harder to kidnap, that means our country is safer.
-Melvs
Sharpy
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just to let you know, jet fuel cannot burn to temperatures hot enoguh to melt the steel used in the structure of the twin towers. Read an engineering book. I find it very coincidental that both building collapsed as if perfectly demolished, with a dip in the middle and everything. So well in fact, that buidings 200 feet away didn't even have broken windows.
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Al_Smith
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^there was a letter from the steel manufacturer that said the steele was made to withstand that heat. I'd like to see another opinion on this because the steel manufacturer is just covering his ass. i also heard that the impact of the aiplane was enough to take off the fire resistors on the beams. thats the part they left out in the video.
Yeah, the buildings did withstand the airplane strikes. It was the fires caused by the planes that weakened the buildings structurally, causing the top floors to collapse.
I might not believe everything the government puts out, but this is one thing you'd have to be stupid to believe. The technicality AND feasibility of something like that are way beyond the reaches of any organization or government, no matter how big.
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I might not believe everything the government puts out, but this is one thing you'd have to be stupid to believe. The technicality AND feasibility of something like that are way beyond the reaches of any organization or government, no matter how big.
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hellmut
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but why would they want to? there is no reason for that. i could see one or two crazy people but a objective this big would need hundreds of people who felt like killing thousands of americans.
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the arabs own 3% of the country, so alqueda could and im not saying with any certaainty but the could have had workers that brought in the bombs. I dont think that the stuff was happening because sept 11 was coming, but that the attack was a direct result of alqueda seeing an oportunitie and seizing it.
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chillonhill
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jihad vs crusaders
this war is far from over,
even Canada is on Al Quieda attack list
but we didn't go to Iraq (officially)
so maybe we are ok for now
Stress will get you nowhere,
this war is far from over,
even Canada is on Al Quieda attack list
but we didn't go to Iraq (officially)
so maybe we are ok for now
Stress will get you nowhere,
EastcoastAR5
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Listen.
I am gonna do everyone a favor who believes that there is a conspiracy behind this and that the video is possible...stop trying to express your knowledge and opinions to this small minded idiots that are incapable to believe things like this are actually possible. Why?
you are wasting your time and effort, they will not change there veiws because they are too scared of this dramatic possibility. yeah it is really fucked up if its true, but the fact is, the mass population will choose not to believe in evidence because they are just scared shitless of it happening.
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I am gonna do everyone a favor who believes that there is a conspiracy behind this and that the video is possible...stop trying to express your knowledge and opinions to this small minded idiots that are incapable to believe things like this are actually possible. Why?
you are wasting your time and effort, they will not change there veiws because they are too scared of this dramatic possibility. yeah it is really fucked up if its true, but the fact is, the mass population will choose not to believe in evidence because they are just scared shitless of it happening.
word
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bucknasty
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yea its too bad that people can not think for a minute about what the other side of their opinion is like, im speaking for both sides
the new world order started on 911, everything changed and it was the best tool that bush could use to have everyone listen to him and support him, any nation is always controlled by some fear, we all are drawn to something that will make us think we are safer, that is why bush suggested going to war with afghanistan and iraq, if people heard that we were going to war because of unlegit reasons we would not be in iraq, that is why 911 was such a good tool to use to support the war.
anyways i could go on forever about this but im not, u are the ones who should think about it some more and then come back to this conversation with a legit reason
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the new world order started on 911, everything changed and it was the best tool that bush could use to have everyone listen to him and support him, any nation is always controlled by some fear, we all are drawn to something that will make us think we are safer, that is why bush suggested going to war with afghanistan and iraq, if people heard that we were going to war because of unlegit reasons we would not be in iraq, that is why 911 was such a good tool to use to support the war.
anyways i could go on forever about this but im not, u are the ones who should think about it some more and then come back to this conversation with a legit reason
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chillonhill
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the uss cole
embassy in Africa
Disco in Jakarta
Madrid
London
were they all conspiricey's also
However I'll agree they used it as an excuse to go to Iraq, who had fuck all to do with it
Stress will get you nowhere,
embassy in Africa
Disco in Jakarta
Madrid
London
were they all conspiricey's also
However I'll agree they used it as an excuse to go to Iraq, who had fuck all to do with it
Stress will get you nowhere,
Apple
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This is a compilation of posts which I have made in other threads on this very same topic. I didnt take the time to correct and spelling or anything, and for that I'm sorry.
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"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
-J. Edgar Hoover
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nomiru yamusaki (sp?) the architectthe towers said that he designed them spicificly to take impacts from massive jet liners. The construction and project and manager for the world trade center complex
Frank Demartini, tol the press multiple times that they designed the towers to take not one, but two massive jet airliner impacts and not colapse. Other world renound engineers and architects went public and said the same, but were ignored by the media.
Professor Van Romero, vice president of research at NewMexico institute of mining and technology told the media that "the implosion of the towers were to mathmatical to be a chance result of airplanes, and only controled demolition could have brought the buildings down.
Kevin Ryan, an exectuive engineer with Underwriters Labritories, the company which certifies most big buildings in america said that it was impossible that Jet fule would have melted the suport structures.
Firefighter Engenerring, the oldest engenerring publication in america, said "there is no way Jet fule made that happen... Stop hauling away the debries stop covering up the crime scene.
Firefigheters in the towers at the time reported they they heard bombs going off in the tower befor it went down. Several news stations reported "secondary explosions"
Why did building 7 collapse? It wasnt hit by a plane. There was no jet fule. Fire has never in history brought down a large steel building, even when they burn for over a week.
Larry silversteen origionaly only owned building 7 of the complex. 2 months prior to 9/11, he bought the entire complex and took out a record insurance poloicy (he has now been paid $3.5 billion for this, and is trying to get double that on his origional investment of $200 million.)
Larry Silversteen went on telivision and said that he had made the decision to "Pull the building" because the building was on fire (moderate fires acording to firefighters) and there had already been enough loss of life for the day. "Pull" is a demolition term refering to the controlled destruction of a building using explosives. If you watch fotage of building 7's collapse, you will see the crimp in the central collums of the buildings.
In the above paragraph, Larry would have you belive that he went into the building on the morning of 9/11 with all the comotion that was going on, set up explosives in the tower in a few short hours, something which normaly takes engineers weeks to set up and prepare. And that they did this while the building was on fire.
Another intersting point is that Marvin Bush, the Presidents brother, was the head of security for the whole complex. His contract ended the morning of 9/11.
Lets also not forget that NORAD stood down that morning. They had been running drills that very morning in whcih hijacked planes were flying into... the twin towers and the pentagon... yet, they didnt have prior knowalge.
The us government was warned by the Tellaban that Osama was going to do something drastic and that they needed to stop him, (They told the governemnt this 2 months in advance) and that that they needed to stop them. CNN reported on a senario very similar to the happenings of 9/11 in 1995. Also, the French, Birtish, Egyptians, Ittalians, Russians, The isralies, the Indians... all warned the US that it was going to happen.
The US Government is lieing to its people. there is no question about that.
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I'd also like to draw a fightening parallel between Nazi germany and modern United States. When hitler was democraticly elected, one of the first things he did was burn down his own capital building, the Reichstag fires. We all learned about this in history class in grade 10. His next step was to blame the fire on Communists and institute "Reich security", which is errily similar to "homeland security" Hitler also told his people that if they wanted protection from terrorist threats, he needed to take away their freedoms, and he began instituting his version of the patriot acts. He took away freedoms one by one untill Nazi germany became the nation which is so despised in history. He also used his reichstag fires are a pretext to expand his nation, to get his people behind the war. This is exactly how the events of 9/11 are being used by the government of the United States of America. What Hitler did, and what the USA is doing is called "Problem, Reaction, Solution" You creat a problem, then you creat a solution to the problem and use the problem you created to gain the suport of your people for your solution. Its a tatict which has been used all throughout history.
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dude, farenheit 9/11 did bush a big favour. It witewashed the whole situation and made him look like an idiot who just didnt notice what was going on. Alex Jones, a radio host from Austin, Texas asked Michael Moore why he didnt go into the "hard core 9/11 issues", Norad standing down and reports of bombs. Michael responded by saying "Because that would be unamerican".
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If you have an hour, watch this documentry done by the BBC called "The power of nightmares: Shadows in the caves". It does a good job of potraying how and why the terrorist threat was created.
http://www.prisonplanet.com /articles/november2004/121104po werofnightmares.htm
If you have 30 minutes, watch this preview of a movie called 9/11 The Great Illusion by George Humphrey. even though it is only part of the movie, it shows how without a doubt the US governemnt had prior knowalge and helped plan the events on 9/11.
http://www.prisonplane t.com/articles/july2004/190704g reatillusion.htm
If you want to see fotage of the colapse of Building 7, of Larry Silversteen saying he was going to pull the building, and many other intresting facts about the events of 9/11, and you dont mind doing a little bit of reading at the same time, this page basicly spells everything out, It give both sides of the arguments, then tries to dispell (rather sucsessfully) the side which says "this was not a conspiricy"
http://www.priso nplanet.com/011904wtc7.html
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please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
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"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
----------------------------------------
"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
-J. Edgar Hoover
-----------------------------------------
nomiru yamusaki (sp?) the architectthe towers said that he designed them spicificly to take impacts from massive jet liners. The construction and project and manager for the world trade center complex
Frank Demartini, tol the press multiple times that they designed the towers to take not one, but two massive jet airliner impacts and not colapse. Other world renound engineers and architects went public and said the same, but were ignored by the media.
Professor Van Romero, vice president of research at NewMexico institute of mining and technology told the media that "the implosion of the towers were to mathmatical to be a chance result of airplanes, and only controled demolition could have brought the buildings down.
Kevin Ryan, an exectuive engineer with Underwriters Labritories, the company which certifies most big buildings in america said that it was impossible that Jet fule would have melted the suport structures.
Firefighter Engenerring, the oldest engenerring publication in america, said "there is no way Jet fule made that happen... Stop hauling away the debries stop covering up the crime scene.
Firefigheters in the towers at the time reported they they heard bombs going off in the tower befor it went down. Several news stations reported "secondary explosions"
Why did building 7 collapse? It wasnt hit by a plane. There was no jet fule. Fire has never in history brought down a large steel building, even when they burn for over a week.
Larry silversteen origionaly only owned building 7 of the complex. 2 months prior to 9/11, he bought the entire complex and took out a record insurance poloicy (he has now been paid $3.5 billion for this, and is trying to get double that on his origional investment of $200 million.)
Larry Silversteen went on telivision and said that he had made the decision to "Pull the building" because the building was on fire (moderate fires acording to firefighters) and there had already been enough loss of life for the day. "Pull" is a demolition term refering to the controlled destruction of a building using explosives. If you watch fotage of building 7's collapse, you will see the crimp in the central collums of the buildings.
In the above paragraph, Larry would have you belive that he went into the building on the morning of 9/11 with all the comotion that was going on, set up explosives in the tower in a few short hours, something which normaly takes engineers weeks to set up and prepare. And that they did this while the building was on fire.
Another intersting point is that Marvin Bush, the Presidents brother, was the head of security for the whole complex. His contract ended the morning of 9/11.
Lets also not forget that NORAD stood down that morning. They had been running drills that very morning in whcih hijacked planes were flying into... the twin towers and the pentagon... yet, they didnt have prior knowalge.
The us government was warned by the Tellaban that Osama was going to do something drastic and that they needed to stop him, (They told the governemnt this 2 months in advance) and that that they needed to stop them. CNN reported on a senario very similar to the happenings of 9/11 in 1995. Also, the French, Birtish, Egyptians, Ittalians, Russians, The isralies, the Indians... all warned the US that it was going to happen.
The US Government is lieing to its people. there is no question about that.
-----------------------------------------------
I'd also like to draw a fightening parallel between Nazi germany and modern United States. When hitler was democraticly elected, one of the first things he did was burn down his own capital building, the Reichstag fires. We all learned about this in history class in grade 10. His next step was to blame the fire on Communists and institute "Reich security", which is errily similar to "homeland security" Hitler also told his people that if they wanted protection from terrorist threats, he needed to take away their freedoms, and he began instituting his version of the patriot acts. He took away freedoms one by one untill Nazi germany became the nation which is so despised in history. He also used his reichstag fires are a pretext to expand his nation, to get his people behind the war. This is exactly how the events of 9/11 are being used by the government of the United States of America. What Hitler did, and what the USA is doing is called "Problem, Reaction, Solution" You creat a problem, then you creat a solution to the problem and use the problem you created to gain the suport of your people for your solution. Its a tatict which has been used all throughout history.
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dude, farenheit 9/11 did bush a big favour. It witewashed the whole situation and made him look like an idiot who just didnt notice what was going on. Alex Jones, a radio host from Austin, Texas asked Michael Moore why he didnt go into the "hard core 9/11 issues", Norad standing down and reports of bombs. Michael responded by saying "Because that would be unamerican".
-----------------------------------------------
If you have an hour, watch this documentry done by the BBC called "The power of nightmares: Shadows in the caves". It does a good job of potraying how and why the terrorist threat was created.
http://www.prisonplanet.com /articles/november2004/121104po werofnightmares.htm
If you have 30 minutes, watch this preview of a movie called 9/11 The Great Illusion by George Humphrey. even though it is only part of the movie, it shows how without a doubt the US governemnt had prior knowalge and helped plan the events on 9/11.
http://www.prisonplane t.com/articles/july2004/190704g reatillusion.htm
If you want to see fotage of the colapse of Building 7, of Larry Silversteen saying he was going to pull the building, and many other intresting facts about the events of 9/11, and you dont mind doing a little bit of reading at the same time, this page basicly spells everything out, It give both sides of the arguments, then tries to dispell (rather sucsessfully) the side which says "this was not a conspiricy"
http://www.priso nplanet.com/011904wtc7.html
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-Thom Savery
please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
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Salomonman
Member
bs, there is no way to test that or know that your building is going to hold up to two planes hitting it, shit happens when huge ass planes hit huge ass buildings
Apple
Active member
did you read my post? Not too far into it has all the evidence for that that you would ever need. Here, Let my highlight it for you
"nomiru yamusaki (sp?) the architectthe towers said that he designed them spicificly to take impacts from massive jet liners. The construction and project and manager for the world trade center complex, Frank Demartini, told the press multiple times that they designed the towers to take not one, but two massive jet airliner impacts and not colapse. Other world renound engineers and architects went public and said the same, but were ignored by the media. "
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please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
"nomiru yamusaki (sp?) the architectthe towers said that he designed them spicificly to take impacts from massive jet liners. The construction and project and manager for the world trade center complex, Frank Demartini, told the press multiple times that they designed the towers to take not one, but two massive jet airliner impacts and not colapse. Other world renound engineers and architects went public and said the same, but were ignored by the media. "
Like a virgin on promnight!
-Thom Savery
please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
chillonhill
Active member
to that page everything is arranged
the tsunami and everything else & this other fucked up guy starts talking about other civilizations on other planets
& that London was an arranged plot by Tony Blair its a lot of BS if you really start reading & watching some of that shit
and well if its true, maybe were all aliens then
Stress will get you nowhere,
the tsunami and everything else & this other fucked up guy starts talking about other civilizations on other planets
& that London was an arranged plot by Tony Blair its a lot of BS if you really start reading & watching some of that shit
and well if its true, maybe were all aliens then
Stress will get you nowhere,
Apple
Active member
I realise that the site looks seedy and like its full of BS, and thats why I posted the links to spicific pages which have good information on them. You also have to remember that looks can be deciving. Alex jones presents alot of facts in his arguments, at least in his documentries. But thats not to say that some of whats on his site isnt BS.
I didnt realize that during my copy and pasting spaces had entered the links, These are the same links in the same order without any spaces. They will take you to the right pages. At the very least, you have to put some faith into the BBC documenty.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/121104powerofnightmares.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2004/190704greatillusion.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html
Im not sure if that was what your post was about though, I had some problems understanding it.
Like a virgin on promnight!
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please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
I didnt realize that during my copy and pasting spaces had entered the links, These are the same links in the same order without any spaces. They will take you to the right pages. At the very least, you have to put some faith into the BBC documenty.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/121104powerofnightmares.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2004/190704greatillusion.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html
Im not sure if that was what your post was about though, I had some problems understanding it.
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please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
srwinnsuco
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you loose my friend, how about the war in iraq, that killed thousands of americans too, and it also put us in a recession
srwinnsuco
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well they needed some reason to keep people in fear and to goto war
bmxican_89
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all you fuckin hippies just need another excuse why we shouldnt be at war. if we werent there they would be here and we wouldnt be having this discussion on NS right now, we would be trying to dodge fucking bullets.
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because they would have the resourses for an invasion of america...
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please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
Like a virgin on promnight!
-Thom Savery
please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
sim
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I don't understand how argueing against this theory suddendly narrows your mind. For fuck sake's quit using that good damn arguement. How is it that just because a person doesnt feel that this theory has any credibility, automatically makes him not able to contribute to the arguement/discussion. What kind of a discussion would it be if everyone just said, "yes, it was a conspiracy, by golly."
Anyway, there is a few things in there worth investigating, however, how do some of you assign so much credibility to this guy and a few others on their arguements of why two planes were not able to bring the towers down, yet when many other credible people have thorougly analyzed it, and did indeed see how it could have happened.
Furthermore, how can anyone design a building with a 100 % guarantee that it can withstand something as rare as a plane flying into it. No one actually knows that. Engineers do it on paper. How could you ever fully test that? So throw that arguement out the window. And like the one guy that said up there, those other explosions are more than likely the result of large amounts of pressure built up in a very short time with no where to go, so it blows something out. Analagous to popping a plastic bag. Any real engineer should be able to see or realize that right away.
Although there is at least a few interesting points in there, at the end of the day you really have to sit back and think logical about the whole thing. What would the government motivation be? Please tell me it's oil, because the billions lost in the collapse of the towers, the following war(s), the rebuilding of the towers and everything else in between, I'm quite sure could have been used in a different way to acheive that goal (oil.) But hey, maybe I am way to close minded for all this.
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Anyway, there is a few things in there worth investigating, however, how do some of you assign so much credibility to this guy and a few others on their arguements of why two planes were not able to bring the towers down, yet when many other credible people have thorougly analyzed it, and did indeed see how it could have happened.
Furthermore, how can anyone design a building with a 100 % guarantee that it can withstand something as rare as a plane flying into it. No one actually knows that. Engineers do it on paper. How could you ever fully test that? So throw that arguement out the window. And like the one guy that said up there, those other explosions are more than likely the result of large amounts of pressure built up in a very short time with no where to go, so it blows something out. Analagous to popping a plastic bag. Any real engineer should be able to see or realize that right away.
Although there is at least a few interesting points in there, at the end of the day you really have to sit back and think logical about the whole thing. What would the government motivation be? Please tell me it's oil, because the billions lost in the collapse of the towers, the following war(s), the rebuilding of the towers and everything else in between, I'm quite sure could have been used in a different way to acheive that goal (oil.) But hey, maybe I am way to close minded for all this.
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Apple
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The empire state building was hit by a plane. b-52 bomber i belive. It didnt collapse. And yes they do it on paper- and if only one of the 2 towers had collapsed then I would say your probaly right. But the fact of the matter is that both towers AND Building 7 collapsed. Building 7 wasnt even struck by a plane. As i stated before, never in history has a modern steal skyscraper been brought down because of fire. The building that burned in madrid spain for 6 days is a good example of this. White hot flames shooting hundreds of feet out of the top. It never collapsed.
Looking at the towers and arguing over them is pointless because there is alot of proof for both sides. But looking at building 7 we can see that there was without a doubt controlled demolition happening on 9/11. The owner of the building even went on telivion and said so. No plane hit it. moderate fires (according to firefighters) on only 2 floors. There is no reason why it should have come down. But Bomb. It did.
I coverd it all in my big post.
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Looking at the towers and arguing over them is pointless because there is alot of proof for both sides. But looking at building 7 we can see that there was without a doubt controlled demolition happening on 9/11. The owner of the building even went on telivion and said so. No plane hit it. moderate fires (according to firefighters) on only 2 floors. There is no reason why it should have come down. But Bomb. It did.
I coverd it all in my big post.
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-Thom Savery
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.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
chillonhill
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O.K. to the BBC documentary, I'll agree that they have arrested & detained a lot of innocent people, The Disneyland video & the skettchy drawings they tried to decifer, They make a lot of assumptions, But to say they blew up the WTC, thats where I get off this train of belief.
They do like to fabricate evidence I'll give you that much. Corrupt Leaders that they are.
interesting documentary though
Stress will get you nowhere,
They do like to fabricate evidence I'll give you that much. Corrupt Leaders that they are.
interesting documentary though
Stress will get you nowhere,
sim
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Now I don't know enough about building 7 or how it was connected to the other two towers to begin with, but I will reiterate, as I am currently in Engineering. All that shit about "it was designed to withstand two planes" means nothing. Absolutely nothing. The Titanic was suppose to be unsinkable, yet... Ask anyone who actually works in a trade what they think of engineers. And architects- they design buildings, as in who they look, not how they are to be built, so I wouldnt take their word that fast either.
But as far as building 7 goes, I can't say for sure, so on that you may have a sound arguement. The one thing that I could guess is that the collapse of the other two made the other building structurally unsound. Again, I don't know how they were all connected, but it is something worth looking at. It is yet again, something that no amount of calculations could of predicted.
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But as far as building 7 goes, I can't say for sure, so on that you may have a sound arguement. The one thing that I could guess is that the collapse of the other two made the other building structurally unsound. Again, I don't know how they were all connected, but it is something worth looking at. It is yet again, something that no amount of calculations could of predicted.
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Apple
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so being in engineering, What have you learned about the melting tempature of steel? and have you learned anything about fire never in history bringing down a modern steel structure?
The world trade center complex had 7 buildings. 2 were hit by planes, and that has been attributed to the cause of their destruction. 4 were caught in the debris of the falling towers, but building, which was further away than the hiltion (across the street and still standing) managed to catch on fire and fall. It housed the CIA, FBI, national security, NYC emergency response center... all knida of high security orginizations had office space in this building. It was overenginerred because of it. there is no way which fire brought down that building, at the very least because the fireproofing hadn been torn off the steel. Its the real binding proof that there was something more sinister going on. Espicaly since the owner said he was going to "pull" it.
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.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
The world trade center complex had 7 buildings. 2 were hit by planes, and that has been attributed to the cause of their destruction. 4 were caught in the debris of the falling towers, but building, which was further away than the hiltion (across the street and still standing) managed to catch on fire and fall. It housed the CIA, FBI, national security, NYC emergency response center... all knida of high security orginizations had office space in this building. It was overenginerred because of it. there is no way which fire brought down that building, at the very least because the fireproofing hadn been torn off the steel. Its the real binding proof that there was something more sinister going on. Espicaly since the owner said he was going to "pull" it.
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-Thom Savery
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.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
chillonhill
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the outside frame and some floor beams steel
most of the rest was cement collums & floor platforms, Like the shopping center that collapsed in Korea when some of the collums cracked on the upper floor, it all came down like dominos
Stress will get you nowhere,
most of the rest was cement collums & floor platforms, Like the shopping center that collapsed in Korea when some of the collums cracked on the upper floor, it all came down like dominos
Stress will get you nowhere,
jarossamdb7
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honestly, I think it is really stupid why anyone would beleve the US government over any random ass person. As lewis black put it "These are the same assholes that told me to hide under my desk incase of a nuclear attack when I was in grade schoo" when refering to the people that run our governemnt
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Apple
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thats strange, because i was under the impression that they were steel framed buildings. Thats what the government has been saying, Right? Does fire even effect concrete? Where did you get that info from?
Like a virgin on promnight!
-Thom Savery
please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
Like a virgin on promnight!
-Thom Savery
please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
chillonhill
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there were steel frames but not as much as other buildings, its the outer 4 beams that are the main support, then they have some steel beams and the use rebar and pour concret floors
with support colums, and as stated before, were there were no windows, thats were the flaw was and that were the planes tried to aim for, didn't you see that cloud of concrete dust.
thats why it colapsed like one on top of the other
Stress will get you nowhere,
with support colums, and as stated before, were there were no windows, thats were the flaw was and that were the planes tried to aim for, didn't you see that cloud of concrete dust.
thats why it colapsed like one on top of the other
Stress will get you nowhere,
Apple
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yah, but other than your word is there any proof of this that I can see? not that I dont trust you, I just wouldnt want base my belifes on information that cant be professionaly confirmed. So far we have the major firefigheters publication in america and several engineers saying that planes couldnt have brought down the towers against your word and Sims partialy completed undergrad in engineering.
Like a virgin on promnight!
-Thom Savery
please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
Like a virgin on promnight!
-Thom Savery
please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
what brought the planes down was not the planes hitting the towers but the incredable heat caused by the jet fuel fire from the planes....like someone said before...steal becomes extremely weak when nder intense heat so when the main beams of the tower became to weak everything just fell in on itself...if u look at steal in a store like home depot or something like that u will see foam looking shit covering it..this is to make the beams last longer in a fire...but if the fire is to hot and goes for to long nothing can save the steal from weakening, which caused the twin towers to collapse.
Apple
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steel does not lose its structual stability untill 3000 degrees celcius. The fires in the tower were only half that hot. Explain that. Also explian how the fire was almost out when the towers collapsed. and that still doesnt explain anything about building 7.
Like a virgin on promnight!
-Thom Savery
please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
Like a virgin on promnight!
-Thom Savery
please pardon the cacography
.C.C.R..P.P.P.
'naahhmahhnahh
hahhh ... i mean ... the weekend of monday'
"go down to the bottom bunk and finish yourself"
"I may be the last to cross the finish line, but at least im in the first race - pun intended"
chillonhill
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they had a documentary on the discovery channel about the construction of it all, they used some steel beams for the floor, but too much concrete, where as the Sears tower in Chicago has a lot more steel into its construction,
and more central support in that respect
Stress will get you nowhere,
and more central support in that respect
Stress will get you nowhere,
jarossamdb7
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""i dont think he would do something that would kill thousands of americans and send our country into a recession. ""
cough cough iraq cough cough war cough
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cough cough iraq cough cough war cough
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the next time your about to make a racial slur stop, think about all the delicious foods that come from his or her country and channel your energy towards the purchase of your next international delight.
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