Yea, we tried to use astroturf, soap, and water for our summer rail today, and it didnt work, turf is defnietely overrated, use snow from an ice rink, or try some carpet
oh yea true, lol sry i should ahve said taht in the original post, the slope wasnt vvery steep, so yea this thread doesnt even make sense any more, i was just pissed that it didnt work