Tuckermans Ravine

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Im planning to ski it this spring with a couple of friends and was just hoping for some info from anyone who has done it before. Whats the skiing like?, how difficult is it to reacht the top of the ravine and possibly the summit? Any info would be greatly appreciated

 
skiing=fun, but be prepared

hike 2-3 hr.s, strenuous, but then again im not a hiker

you cant ski from the sumit. you need to reach the top of the ravine in order to ski, ie-you cant stop 1/2 way and click in, its all or nothing. also, you cant turn around after hiking.

my best advice, go w/ someone whos done it before, it can be a deadly trip if your not prepared

-joe

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yeah, it's 50 degree skiing. i've never skiied it, but i've been there in the summer........ and the little glacier that was still there in august was hella steep.

basically, you fall you die steep. and fuck walking down if you get to the top and can't do it. you'll be taking the auto road down if that happens.

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definitely check out www.mountwashington.org for avalanche warnings before heading up. they're posted daily during the spring.

If you don't have avi gear wait til the warnings are at low before making the trip.

also Be prepared for the weather which can change really rapidly up there.

and yeah, it's steep so...make sure you're pretty confident on that. Once you get up there you can't really not ski down.

maybe check these out as well: www.timefortuckerman.com i think has a checklist, what to bring etc. and www.tuckerman.org

hope that helps.

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i want to build a booter up there in the spring, as well as ski it

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people have died there. be smart. call the local park service like someone said above.

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You must be conscious of backcountry hazards, but Tuck's has skiing for all abilities. There are many different parts of the ravine to ski, and you don't have to hike all the way up! Here's the deal: it's about a 2.5 hour hike from the Pinkham Notch visitor center to the Hermit Lake camping area. There are shelters and tent sites here if you need to crash; you need to get a permit at the visitor center. I recommend staying the night, since it makes the day more relaxed. From here you can either go south to the Hillman's Highway area or hike another half hour to the base of the main ravine. Hillman's is great when it's socked in, and it has some easier terrain if the conditions are bad or if you're new to backcountry skiing. I did Hillman's from the top my first time, and it was a blast! There are also some extremely hairy routes in this area too if you're into that. The main ravine has many different options, with only some of them being viable depending on the time of year and season. The cornice at the top of Left Gulley has been measured at 55 degrees; this is the steepest part. I would only ski Tuck's in the spring. Check outhttp://www.timefortuckerman.com for all the info you need on skiing Tuckerman's Ravine. They have forums there too with people far more experienced than I.

Cheers

 
booter, not really anyplace to build a booter. a small kicker 15-20 ft. maybe.

-joe

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I wouldnt build a booter or a kicker.....

It will be hard enough ripping tuckermans alone, you wont want to take the time to build one anyway.

 
listen to trees101. I don't know him...but he's hit everything on the head.

if you're going to build a jump, you're better off venturing into the gulf of slides. HOWEVER, you will want/need avalanche gear and to watch the weather on the mt washington site AND the tuckerman specific site at www.tuckerman.org. You also will need snowshoes or skins b/c you're not allowed to create a foot path on there. Despite that the patrol there is no longer allowed to disallow you from doing something, I believe it's the law on that trail. You should respect their wishes either way...they're up there everyday keeping your ass safe.

I'm completely down for doing something if you need someone to go with though. I've done it before, but I'd prefer to ski w/you at least once to know how good you really are. The last thing I'd wanna do is get anyone into any danger.

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were planning on heading up in early april, and ive heard the crowds get pretty big...if its a generally slushy day, and the advisories are low, do you think we would be alright going up without beacons?

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i wanna go up when theres powder but its a long trip and i dont like hiking

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^^ yeah man, i've done it in april. you are all set, there won't or shouldnt be any slides. mad people though. super fun. i've skied it like 4 or 5 times.

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if u just zone out and have someone to talk to long hikes arent too bad, is it possible to build a kicker up there or no?

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dont be fucking stupid and build a jump up there. its just really not a good idea, if your going to tuckermans to build a jump than you should really reevaluate why the fuck you are going up there. getting airlifted out of tuckermans isnt exactly the first thing on my agenda but I dunno about you guys. go to tucks to ski some sick terrain not to hit some shitty ass jump.

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dude, tux is deff sick skiing, but u have to be ill prepared. I am skiing it this tuesday, and i have been looking at the avi warnings since sunday. i am only going if the status is at moderate or low. i dont wanna fuck around with anythign up there. i have skied it every spring around mid april, and it is wicked crowded. There are some things you need to watch out for tho:

1. Falling Ice and snow chunks. A few years a guy was killed by an ice chunk the size of a volkswagon.

2. Crevases: The snow up there in the spring is fairly sturdy, but if you fall in one, you are basically fucked.

3. Under snow waterfalls: THis one relates to the crevases. In the spring, the bottom most layers of snow melt, forming insanely dangerous waterfalls. If u fall in a crevasse, then kiss your ass goodbye because those waterfalls will take you right off of a 60 plus foot drop under the snow.

Usually, since all the snow from the summit blows into the bowl, there is like a, 15-30 foot snowpack in some areas in the bowl.

The thing i can warn you the most about are avalanches. Many people die from burly avalanches in the bowl and on hillmans highway. be as careful as possible and make sure u check the snow pack and density before u drop in. All i can say other than that is have fun because it is a deff SICK experience.

I would suggest skiing the headwall, but it may be exposed in the spring, so Hillmans Highway is another good place to try. IT is soo steep and i got a huge rush from skiing it.

MAKE SURE U TALK TO A PARK RANGER WHEN YOU GO! it is a smart move, dont take only my word on everything!!!!

ps. the hike does suck.

big gulps, eh? well, cyah later.
 
from what i can remember from the last time iwas there, their was a big bpard of all the names of poeple who have been killed on mt washington, so

be careful

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yeah, heed (sp?) everyone's warnings on here.

as I said earlier and skodeo7 is right. don't build a jump in tuckerman's ravine. in april the bottom of the bowl and the normal slide run out above the mouth to hillman's is full of open crevases and they're no joke. not only are you building a jump in a dangerous area, but you're also building a jump in a heavily populated area.

think of it this way, you and your friends may be able to handle it, but think of all the joey's from mass, ct, nyc, and jersey that're gonna be up there and think it'll be cool to hit it. if they don't fall they risk taking someone else out.

being heli'd off a mountain is not only a pain in the ass, but i think the minimum rescue fee at mt washington is over a grand right now...and that's w/o the flying meatwagon coming to get you.

BigGULPS, where are you talking about slides on hillman's highway? we're probably on a different page, but hillman's is below the tree line. i can't recall ever reading about a slide anywhere near there...except for maybe the mouth.

again, if you're bound and determined to build a jump the only 'safe' place to do it where no one's around, etc. you'll want to do it in one of the surrounding snowfields. the gulf of slides snowfield would be good for it. it's #1 on the picture linked here. you'll want a beacon for that though and proper training. as i said before, if you want someone to go w/b/c i've been up in there before, i'll gladly go. you'll want 4-5 people for the trip though. it's probably the safest number to travel with in there.

there's a prime point to do tucks...the later in the season, the more dangerous it can get.

oh...and 50 degrees is pretty damn steep man. it's not just the pitch, but the fact that it consistently goes down 50 degrees and those damn rocks don't exactly move out of your way too often.

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I dunno I've skied 50 degrees before and it was no big deal, but I guess it depends what is on that 50 degree slope. Also, Im not trying to brag, it just honestly wasnt a big deal, and Im no pro big mmountain skier ILll tell you that much.

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Tux at its worst my friends!

big gulps, eh? well, cyah later.
 
Thats hillmans right there. it may be below treeline, the top of it aint tho. its a sick run if u like steeps.

big gulps, eh? well, cyah later.
 
oh man, definitely build a boot. i did a few years ago, and the patrollers said no one had ever hiked with a shovel and built a jump. you have to carve a jump out of the slope (HIP)right near the picnic rocks in the bowl. you'll have an audience, so you'll want to huck.

 
the book Ski Party talked about tuckermans. it was really funny cuz its a book from like the 80s that talks about skiing trends n stuff. but it said tuckerman's was really cool, but i'd prob b too scared to ever try it.

 
haha i feel like an ass. i was thinking of the shelburne ski trail. too much coffee or too little at the time...it doesn't matter. i'm always shaking like shit

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It is preaty fun but know your suroundings and bring and know how to operate your avalanche gear. I have gone there twice and both times I saw some really stupid people climbing in suseptable sliding areas and unstable snow pack so just be careful.

Huck it and Giver, Don't turn unless stuff gets in your way.
 
my fam and i used to go up there in june, and in october, and i remeber there being considerable snow in tucks in june, and fresh snow falling in october. I want to hit it when the s now is still soft, but i dont want to risk any avalanches. I looked on that time for tuckermans web site and theres some sick cliffsthere too, i definatly think wed build a jump and just hang out all day

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tucks isn't about booters, it's about steeps. Why hike over two hours up to the sickest terrain in the east to build some pinner kicker? You will kill it if you hike up and take 2-3 runs down the headwall. Then you will be too tired to do anything else.

Hiking with music/headphones would REALLY help.

Might want to bring rock skis, the ride down can be very very thin cover, to no cover...but you can keep skiing the grass and rocks if you can trash your skis. Respect mt. washington

 
Mikee - where are you saying you've skied a 50 degree pitch?

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i def think itd be fun to have a kicker built for the bottom of a run, i wouldnt plan to session the jump all day and id definately ski the headwall and shit too, but itd be fun to have a jump also

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i wanna go so bad...but i wanna go like when tehres good snow and not hard snowpack....is there pow in mid april or is it hard?

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according to the averages (ive been checking this out alot) they average 20 inches of snow in april. As far as i know (based on web site info and talking to people whove done it) the best time to go is the last week of march or the first week of april. Lowest avalanche probabilities and best snow, u should plan to stay up there for 2-3 days and just ski wildcat while u wait for a window of good weather, cuz the weather on top of the mountain is nuts, if u look on mountwashington.org.....u can see the weather is crazy

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shit i wouldnt be able to go until mid april....i might end up going to whistler which is better

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ive hiked up to the top in the summer/fall, and i so badly want to go ski it. seems like a really interesting place, and a bit intimidating (at least from all the horror stories ive heard about on mt washington and what some of you guys have said).

so many people have died on mt washington its ridiculous

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Yeah cause alot of people on the east coast dont know what they are doing skiing in western type mountains like that. Granted some of you do, but I bet the majority of the people up there on a weekend are pretty big beaters...

 
I cant believe im saying this but....oh god....dspin, i actually agree with that, that was well said

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I love how everyone thinks that a beacon is like a get out of avalanche free card, first of all they dont work that great, secondly if you're on a slab that breaks a few feet deep, you're probably gonna die anyway. Don't go into the backcountry if you know NOTHING of snow conditions or terrain features, its just not worth dying over.

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In my 'recco white book' a little avy pamplhet it says 30% of people who are buried from avalanches survive. so take that as you will, if you're buried consider it a 70% chance you just skied your last turn.

We pay our debt sometimes.
 
^but thats just if ur buried, if ur in an avalanche, theres also a chance that u wont be completely buried

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Ice-Is-Scary, buried or not...there's a high(er) chance of dying from head trauma in a slide than the whole buried thing.

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