Trump Calls Nick Goepper "Mark" At White House Olympic Team Gathering

[johnblaze]

Ah if only one of them had the balls to get on the mic and call Trump out on his bullshit... something along the lines of “if we don’t re-enter the Paris climate agreement, there might not BE a winter olympics in a few decades”

Paris was a scam and a shitty deal for the U.S. We can still meet carbon reduction goals without funneling billions from us to China and India .

 

[TheDoughAbides]

MAGA!!!

Make America Soviet Russia

25+ years after the collapse of the Soviet Union and we're losing the Cold War again thanks to chuds

 

[skierman]

Paris was a scam and a shitty deal for the U.S. We can still meet carbon reduction goals without funneling billions from us to China and India .

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[corona]

Paris was a scam and a shitty deal for the U.S. We can still meet carbon reduction goals without funneling billions from us to China and India .

Source on money from US going to China and India as a result of Paris Agreement? China has pledged money, not received. Dunno about India.

How would you suggest getting developing nations to reduce their emissions without financially helping them to develop cleaner sources of energy, better public transit, improved emission standards etc etc? Do you not think we owe them something to help clean up their drinking water and air etc since one of the large reasons why it's so polluted is due to resource extraction and manufacturing for the benefit of Western nations?

 

[GhettoYeti]

Source on money from US going to China and India as a result of Paris Agreement? China has pledged money, not received. Dunno about India.

How would you suggest getting developing nations to reduce their emissions without financially helping them to develop cleaner sources of energy, better public transit, improved emission standards etc etc? Do you not think we owe them something to help clean up their drinking water and air etc since one of the large reasons why it's so polluted is due to resource extraction and manufacturing for the benefit of Western nations?

Bih op is nit right about the money flow, the correct money flow is usa -> climate committee in the amount of (fuckton) and other countries -/> climate committee so we are like the only country paying in and thats fuckin dumb

 

[Kreech]

Bih op is nit right about the money flow, the correct money flow is usa -> climate committee in the amount of (fuckton) and other countries -/> climate committee so we are like the only country paying in and thats fuckin dumb

But the US is also far and away the largest contributor to climate change, and that’s really what’s fuckin dumb.

 

[GhettoYeti]

But the US is also far and away the largest contributor to climate change, and that’s really what’s fuckin dumb.

I mean if you look at the numbers from india and china both who have not paid in a cent (that have said they will but havebt yet, we are on par with them so also wtf?

 

[corona]

I mean if you look at the numbers from india and china both who have not paid in a cent (that have said they will but havebt yet, we are on par with them so also wtf?

But he did it first!!

Sounds like grade 5 all over again. There's merit to manning up and setting an example.

 

[GhettoYeti]

But he did it first!!

Sounds like grade 5 all over again. There's merit to manning up and setting an example.

We have been setting the example for a few years now and nobody has followed, why not use the money that we spend on that bs to promote a cleaner united states? Like why bother spending if we could more effectively use that money? And you cant tell me that sending money to a big ass group of people who are "totally using it to help the earth" is actually helping. Tbh I want the world to treat our home with more care and respect but paris agreement aint gon solve it hon.

 

[corona]

We have been setting the example for a few years now and nobody has followed, why not use the money that we spend on that bs to promote a cleaner united states? Like why bother spending if we could more effectively use that money? And you cant tell me that sending money to a big ass group of people who are "totally using it to help the earth" is actually helping. Tbh I want the world to treat our home with more care and respect but paris agreement aint gon solve it hon.

How exactly is the US setting an example? Do you have any examples of this? Closing coal plants and making national parks isn't exactly setting an example since it's being done by many many nations to a much greater extent than the US. If you want to talk setting examples, how about countries like Norway banning the sale of all diesel or gasoline vehicles sometime in the next decade. Want to drive innovation for cheaper electric vehicles that aren't a scourge? Ban gas and diesel.

In a lot of ways the US has been the total opposite of setting an example with regressive policies and agendas by the current government.

How can you also say that the money would be better used at home to fight emissions and other pollution when all the low hanging fruit have already been had? The cheap, easy ways to lower emissions (eg scrubbers on smoke stacks) have yet to be implemented in a ton of countries, so a buck towards that will end up with more and quicker results than a buck towards an initiative in the US.

Then of course a lot of money would be going to infrastructure projects for clean drinking water and the like in countries where, quite frequently, drinking water is contaminated by resource extraction to help make your phone go or your electric vehicle run (ironically). It's the least we can do to help out a bit as a thank you for working for peanuts so we can buy a new smartphone every year.

What I am very skeptical of is the possibility of corruption involved and only a small amount of the money pledged actually making it to the projects that matter.

 

[GhettoYeti]

How exactly is the US setting an example? Do you have any examples of this? Closing coal plants and making national parks isn't exactly setting an example since it's being done by many many nations to a much greater extent than the US. If you want to talk setting examples, how about countries like Norway banning the sale of all diesel or gasoline vehicles sometime in the next decade. Want to drive innovation for cheaper electric vehicles that aren't a scourge? Ban gas and diesel.

What I am very skeptical of is the possibility of corruption involved and only a small amount of the money pledged actually making it to the projects that matter.

Ok first I didnt mean an example in that sense, i meant we are sending money in while others are saying yay but not helping

Second diesel is considerably more environmentally friendly than gasoline and in fact can be mixed with biofuel, so thats probably a bad idea to ban

Third Iirl you said it yourself only a small amount of money is making it to the projects that matter, thats fucking stupid all the money should be going to those projects directly.

And last, think what you will about corruption but If you take a closer look at life you would realize how naieve what you said sounds.

Honestly I want what you want but dam that agreement was a fucking scandal

 

[corona]

dam that agreement was a fucking scandal

you keep saying this yet providing nothing to support this

 

[GhettoYeti]

you keep saying this yet providing nothing to support this

If the money that the United states sends to the board created by the deal not get to the places where it should be going? You said yourself that the money isnt getting to the places it needs to go. Im just saying that throwing money at a problem wont make it go away, and if we sre the only people throwing money at it then it is a wase of time and capital

 

[corona]

If the money that the United states sends to the board created by the deal not get to the places where it should be going? You said yourself that the money isnt getting to the places it needs to go. Im just saying that throwing money at a problem wont make it go away, and if we sre the only people throwing money at it then it is a wase of time and capital

Well I guess you didn't read a word I wrote.

1- Who said the money wouldn't go to where it should? Can you provide credible source saying that money pledged as a part of the Paris Agreement wouldn't go to the projects they say they support?

2- No I didn't. I said it's a worry, not that it's happening. A worry based on zero evidence or even rumours.

3- You say throwing money at problems won't make them go away without even knowing what they money is going towards or what the foreseeable results are.

4- The USA is NOT the only country pledging money towards this. A quick search tells me that there are 41 countries who have so far donated money. Many of whom have donated a far greater per capita amount than the US.

 

[GhettoYeti]

Well I guess you didn't read a word I wrote.

1- Who said the money wouldn't go to where it should? Can you provide credible source saying that money pledged as a part of the Paris Agreement wouldn't go to the projects they say they support?

2- No I didn't. I said it's a worry, not that it's happening. A worry based on zero evidence or even rumours.

3- You say throwing money at problems won't make them go away without even knowing what they money is going towards or what the foreseeable results are.

4- The USA is NOT the only country pledging money towards this. A quick search tells me that there are 41 countries who have so far donated money. Many of whom have donated a far greater per capita amount than the US.

Orr the money could go to making the United states cleaner... instead of to other countries or it could go to soo many other more useful places, we need national parks and we need to support our own renewable energy economy, sending rhe money elsewhere is an excuse to just let big oil do their thing in the states

 

[skierman]

Orr the money could go to making the United states cleaner... instead of to other countries or it could go to soo many other more useful places, we need national parks and we need to support our own renewable energy economy, sending rhe money elsewhere is an excuse to just let big oil do their thing in the states

Stop using logic. Republicans made it clear they do not care for facts, reason or empathy. They're a bunch of fucking idiots who believe that welfare is bad aside from corporate welfare. They're a group of jackasses who think giving the wealthiest people a tax break makes sense while giving the poorest a living wage is theft and awarding laziness.

They're a bunch of self-serving assholes or ignorant douches. Stop wasting your effort and wait for them to die off instead.

 

[GhettoYeti]

Stop using logic. Republicans made it clear they do not care for facts, reason or empathy. They're a bunch of fucking idiots who believe that welfare is bad aside from corporate welfare. They're a group of jackasses who think giving the wealthiest people a tax break makes sense while giving the poorest a living wage is theft and awarding laziness.

They're a bunch of self-serving assholes or ignorant douches. Stop wasting your effort and wait for them to die off instead.

Your not wrong, though honestly fuck taxes

 

[Cade2]

If the money that the United states sends to the board created by the deal not get to the places where it should be going? You said yourself that the money isnt getting to the places it needs to go. Im just saying that throwing money at a problem wont make it go away, and if we sre the only people throwing money at it then it is a wase of time and capital

stop acting like you know what you are talking about and shut up already. VinnieF is obviously a lot more educated than you

 

[GhettoYeti]

stop acting like you know what you are talking about and shut up already. VinnieF is obviously a lot more educated than you

Who the fuck cares who is more educated. Vinny has a differing opinion. And since this is the internet, you are probably like 13

 

[Cade2]

Who the fuck cares who is more educated. Vinny has a differing opinion. And since this is the internet, you are probably like 13

couldnt have expected a much different response

 

[GhettoYeti]

couldnt have expected a much different response

I try