True Detective Season 2

13461425:BenWhit said:
i find myself kind of agreeing. last season, the plot lot was genuinely interesting. as the case progressed, i was trying to solve the murders on my own. every time they followed a lead, i was speculating as to its legitimacy. this season is playing too much on the shock factor. They're relying on the big, shocking, exciting scenes to drive our perception of the show. I don't know how much worse this season is, but I do know it's different. I'm not following the plot or the case at all. I find myself following the action.

I find myself trying to follow the character arcs more. Is Colin Ferrell going to change? What is Rachel McAdams end play? What is Taylor Kitsch hiding? Who could be challenging Vince Vaughn's empire?
 
13461440:.MASSHOLE. said:
1.Is Colin Ferrell going to change?

2.What is Taylor Kitsch hiding?

1. He lost his son. He hardly wants to live. He's a dirty cop. He's an alcoholic. He'll change, but only for this investigation.

2. He committed war crimes under the direction of his superiors in the military. He's dabbled in some gay stuff. He's over compensating by getting married.

I just find this season hard to follow.
 
13461440:.MASSHOLE. said:
I find myself trying to follow the character arcs more. Is Colin Ferrell going to change? What is Rachel McAdams end play? What is Taylor Kitsch hiding? Who could be challenging Vince Vaughn's empire?

Something BIG is gonna happen in the next episode or two thats going to connect everything, theyve been setting something up thats gonna be fucked up wild I think, until then ill be waiting...

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13461444:BenWhit said:
1. He lost his son. He hardly wants to live. He's a dirty cop. He's an alcoholic. He'll change, but only for this investigation.

2. He committed war crimes under the direction of his superiors in the military. He's dabbled in some gay stuff. He's over compensating by getting married.

I just find this season hard to follow.

I know THAT much, but how? Will we see Colin Ferrell make a change to try to get his son back or will he blow it all up? The trailer hinted he is making an appearance in court with his wife. The war crimes part is evident, but it has to tie into this case, there is no reason it would be brought up to make the character seem edgy. If that is the case, the writers really had a one hit wonder last year
 
By the way, people should check out Mr. Robot, it is fantastic and produced by one of the guys who does True Detective
 
13461425:BenWhit said:
i find myself kind of agreeing. last season, the plot lot was genuinely interesting. as the case progressed, i was trying to solve the murders on my own. every time they followed a lead, i was speculating as to its legitimacy. this season is playing too much on the shock factor. They're relying on the big, shocking, exciting scenes to drive our perception of the show. I don't know how much worse this season is, but I do know it's different. I'm not following the plot or the case at all. I find myself following the action.

except apart from the shootout there's barely been any action, way less than by this point in the first series. i get what you're saying about the plot being less "interesting" but it's a different plot altogether, so it's developing in a different way.

i feel your constant comparing of the two series might spoil your enjoyment a bit, just keep them separate. they're not meant to be similar.
 
13463703:CliffyByro said:
i feel your constant comparing of the two series might spoil your enjoyment a bit, just keep them separate. they're not meant to be similar.

THIS Stop comparing! They're completely different, I see so much hate on this season because it's to hard to follow or (if you guy read kfc on barstool) there are too many cheesy stupid 1 liners or some shit like this:http://mashable.com/2015/07/13/true-detective-episode-4/

Here's a thought just fucking put down your phones or laptops listen to the dialog (something that has been seemingly way to quiet and worth a complaint), pay attention and stop comparing everything to fucking mcConaughey (WHO"S ROLE WAS COMPLETELY MADE UP OF STUPID FUCKING 1 LINERS).

This rant was by no means directed at anyone in this thread, this just seemed a good place to rant about the stupidity of bloggers I continue to read..
 
Heya you american folks, when does the new episode air? and how long until i can find it up on thepiratebay?
 
13463791:Bateman said:
Heya you american folks, when does the new episode air? and how long until i can find it up on thepiratebay?

It aired tonight.

Shits getting good. Pieces are coming together and I'm stoked for the next episode.
 
13463721:belden... said:
THIS Stop comparing! They're completely different, I see so much hate on this season because it's to hard to follow or (if you guy read kfc on barstool) there are too many cheesy stupid 1 liners or some shit like this:http://mashable.com/2015/07/13/true-detective-episode-4/

Here's a thought just fucking put down your phones or laptops listen to the dialog (something that has been seemingly way to quiet and worth a complaint), pay attention and stop comparing everything to fucking mcConaughey (WHO"S ROLE WAS COMPLETELY MADE UP OF STUPID FUCKING 1 LINERS).

This rant was by no means directed at anyone in this thread, this just seemed a good place to rant about the stupidity of bloggers I continue to read..

i understand the story completely. i have no problems with one liners or anything like that. but last season i absolutely couldn't get enough of the show and this season watching it feels more like a chore. its harder get drawn into the story because it feels over focused on the lives of all four characters rather than the mystery at hand. last season it was definitely about the lives of the rust and hart but so much of it made me want to find out more about the fucked up crime syndicate and the spaghetti man where as i almost forget about casper each episode. i dont hate this season as its still a good show but it just not as good as the primary season.
 
So the motorcycle guy, after his confrontation with that other dude he worked with at Black Mtn...I don't know if I misinterpreted what the other guy said but it sounds like they had a gay moment...

Anyways the show is developing nicely. Starting to get a good read on the characters.

Vaughn-Criminal with a moral code and sense of right and wrong

Oh would you look at that. Vaughn does have morals and is trying to escape the criminal life he leads.

Farrell-Detective at the end of his rope, thinking he's starting to want to solve the case. at least for himself.

Oh would you look at that. Farrell does want to solve the case, and though I said for himself, it appears for himself/son will do.

McAdams-No clue on her yet. She's not hard charging, but not completely mellow. She knows Farrell is corrupted but doesnt seem to care. Very lax at the moment.

Yeah still not a great read on her I'll admit.

Motorcycle dude- Obvious fucked up past in the military (or private contracting), has terrible relationships, seems very interested in the case

Oh would you look at that. He too wants to solve the case, is gay, and does have a fucked up past.

Still not far enough in to really formulate any theories but if season 2 stays true to season 1 than Im sure we have already been given hints.
 
so is colin farrell definitely not the kids dad? or is that still disputed? i heard the black female detective say there was a dna match with the rapist and the kid but when ray was talking to his ex-wife i got the impression she didn't know that.

is that because they're holding information from her or did i just mis-hear?
 
13467988:CliffyByro said:
so is colin farrell definitely not the kids dad? or is that still disputed? i heard the black female detective say there was a dna match with the rapist and the kid but when ray was talking to his ex-wife i got the impression she didn't know that.

is that because they're holding information from her or did i just mis-hear?

I think the dna match was between the rapist and the rape kit, nothing to do with the kid.
 
13467996:Monsieur_Patate said:
I think the dna match was between the rapist and the rape kit, nothing to do with the kid.

ahh yeah i was thinking i might have misheard kit as kid. i'm sure the black women said "as well as your ex wife's kid" though. i'm sure all will be revealed soon enough!
 
Trying not to read any of the the thread, watched the first episode of the season, confused and didnt like it. Havnt seen another episode, is it worth watching them?

Please no spoilers in your reply, quote me so I see the alert.
 
13469959:theBearJew said:
Trying not to read any of the the thread, watched the first episode of the season, confused and didnt like it. Havnt seen another episode, is it worth watching them?

Please no spoilers in your reply, quote me so I see the alert.

It's definitely worth it, it just takes a few episodes to really ramp up. It gets good though.
 
13469959:theBearJew said:
Trying not to read any of the the thread, watched the first episode of the season, confused and didnt like it. Havnt seen another episode, is it worth watching them?

Please no spoilers in your reply, quote me so I see the alert.

People seem to hate it, I personally enjoy it. It is a little more predictable this season, but it is worth a watch considering not many other good shows are on TV right now (save Mr. Robot)
 
13470010:.MASSHOLE. said:
People seem to hate it, I personally enjoy it. It is a little more predictable this season, but it is worth a watch considering not many other good shows are on TV right now (save Mr. Robot)

Not to get off topic but I really like Halt and Catch Fire on AMC. Slow start but its ending second season this Sunday. Youll probably like the show more if youre interested in tech to begin with.
 
13473890:eheath said:
Uhhh wtf just went down. This last epsiode is gonna be fucked

I've been waiting for Frank to do that, and it was amazing. he's like a lion backed into a corner, reverting back to what made him who he is. It's going to be very fun to watch in the finale. I feel bad for people who wrote the show off in the first two episodes, because the show is lightyears better than i anticipated.

Woodrough is a fucking badass. Poor guy caught the short-end of the deal.

I have been patiently waiting to see some McAdams titty. I feel cheated.
 
13474021:BenWhit said:
I've been waiting for Frank to do that, and it was amazing. he's like a lion backed into a corner, reverting back to what made him who he is. It's going to be very fun to watch in the finale. I feel bad for people who wrote the show off in the first two episodes, because the show is lightyears better than i anticipated.

Woodrough is a fucking badass. Poor guy caught the short-end of the deal.

I have been patiently waiting to see some McAdams titty. I feel cheated.

You underestimate her ass. The fact that I didn't get to see any of her nude kills me. Amanda Didario's (sp) tits in the first season were unreal. Season 2 is def lacking in the classic HBO raunchy sex scene category...
 
So much buildup for absolutely nothing. So disappointed in that last episode. They used every single Hollywood cliche. Fuck that I want those 90 minutes of my life back.
 
I didn't think the finale was that bad it pulled together alot of shit. Just because it wasn't as good as season 1 doesn't make it bad, I think that's a huge problem right now and its pretty unfair to judge season 2 based on season 1. There won't be a season as good as season 1 ever was thats just how it is, they hit a home run in the first and are gonna never do better.
 
13476680:eheath said:
Just because it wasn't as good as season 1 doesn't make it bad

I agree with this and am happy I watched season 2. Overall it was really entertaining.

I am, however, pretty disappointed in the finale. This season was finally building some momentum the last couple episodes and the finale just kind of sucked.
 
I don't necessarily feel one way or the other regarding the finale. I can't seem to figure out why. I guess it had just enough "action" to be interesting, but the substance wasn't exactly compelling. I still don't think the entire plot line tied together well enough to make it compelling. I understood the overarching theme and general direction of the plot, but I found last season far more intriguing (apples to oranges).

Ray's finale tied exactly into his persona and character development. His life revolves around his son. His death was a culmination of his disregard for his own life. I think that disregard made him a great character and likely drove a lot of the things he did throughout the season.

I could not be more disappointed with how Frank died. I really wanted him to make it out alive, but his pride was ultimately what did him in.
 
13477208:BenWhit said:
I could not be more disappointed with how Frank died. I really wanted him to make it out alive, but his pride was ultimately what did him in.

It wasn't pride. He had $3 million worth of diamonds stashed in his suit coat which the Mexican gangsta wanted. Without that he had nothing.
 
13477274:johnnyBuz said:
It wasn't pride. He had $3 million worth of diamonds stashed in his suit coat which the Mexican gangsta wanted. Without that he had nothing.

I totally forgot that detail after writing this hahaha whoops.
 
13477274:johnnyBuz said:
It wasn't pride. He had $3 million worth of diamonds stashed in his suit coat which the Mexican gangsta wanted. Without that he had nothing.

Should've stashed them in his butthole.
 
13477274:johnnyBuz said:
It wasn't pride. He had $3 million worth of diamonds stashed in his suit coat which the Mexican gangsta wanted. Without that he had nothing.

what, in the fuck, did you think they were going to do after they took his suit? Frank lost, it was his pride. He was going to die with or without the suit.
 
13477443:Mod_Dane said:
what, in the fuck, did you think they were going to do after they took his suit? Frank lost, it was his pride. He was going to die with or without the suit.

It looked to me like they were going to leave him in the desert until he made the comment "What, a million dollars doesn't buy you a ride back into town?"

Then, the underling told the head guy that he wanted his suit and that's what led to his demise. So it wasn't really pride, it was just him being a smart ass.
 
13477457:johnnyBuz said:
It looked to me like they were going to leave him in the desert until he made the comment "What, a million dollars doesn't buy you a ride back into town?"

Then, the underling told the head guy that he wanted his suit and that's what led to his demise. So it wasn't really pride, it was just him being a smart ass.

They were not gonna give him a ride back, are you kidding me? He was MILES into the desert, he was doomed to die from the time they jacked his car.
 
13477473:eheath said:
They were not gonna give him a ride back, are you kidding me? He was MILES into the desert, he was doomed to die from the time they jacked his car.

I didn't say they were going to give him a ride, I just said it looked like they were about to leave without stabbing him first.
 
He MITGH"VE gotten out of the desert, people have survived some gnarly shit. But if he had given up his suit he would've gotten out with nothing to start over with. The diamonds were in his suit which was the only capital he had left.
 
13477988:fillup said:
He MITGH"VE gotten out of the desert, people have survived some gnarly shit. But if he had given up his suit he would've gotten out with nothing to start over with. The diamonds were in his suit which was the only capital he had left.

Not to mention the boat would have still left without him.

Knew pretty early on in the ep. that Vaugh and Farrell weren't gonna make it. Not sure how I felt about the finale. This season seemed a lot more straight forward than the last one which is disappointing. Oh well, still was really enjoyable and better than most garbage shows out there nowadays. Curious to see if there will be season 3, and if so, where it will be and where it will take us.
 
I felt like this episode had far too many "Hollywood" cliches built into one episode. I could have done without the fluff. I think for the most part, the plot line was filled with so much fluff bullshit that never mattered. The back and forth banter between Frank and his wife about having a kid took up half the fucking season and had literally no influence on the plot development whatsoever. There was so much room for more, but the show was jam packed with bullshit fluff. The sudden Farrell/McAdams love story developing in the last two episodes, culminating with them having a child together despite him dying before he could escape to South America (Prison Break, anyone?).

Why not go deeper into Woodrough? Deeper into Ani's past and the influence of her father's cult? More Ray & Frank backstory? There are so many directions they could have gone that would have been far more intriguing. But alas, it was compelling TV nonetheless.
 
13478622:cobra_commander said:
The only thing that I thought would happen that didn't was Rachel McAdams getting tossed off that boat 30 miles out to sea.

I really thought she was going to jump.
 
13478406:Granite_State said:
Not to mention the boat would have still left without him.

Knew pretty early on in the ep. that Vaugh and Farrell weren't gonna make it. Not sure how I felt about the finale. This season seemed a lot more straight forward than the last one which is disappointing. Oh well, still was really enjoyable and better than most garbage shows out there nowadays. Curious to see if there will be season 3, and if so, where it will be and where it will take us.

He was never going to be on that boat, he said he would meet her within 2 weeks. But yeah,
 
The finale was so weak. As mentioned before, way too much fluff and not nearly enough substance. They just threw all this shit together at the end and didn't suck me in at all. I also think the acting was garbage. The first two scenes with McAdams/ Ferrel and Frank and his wife were honestly like something out of a day time tv show. It was garbage. The season started slow, got going a bit, then just dropped so hard with the finale.

I know it was a different flavor and trying to repeat a grand slam from season 1 is pretty damn hard, but Nic Pizzolato and the writers should have taken more time to develop the story better than they did.

P.s. I totally thought the women with the scar who owns the bar was going to kill Ani or set her up on the boat via the Mexican cartel.
 
13480067:MAHONEbone said:
P.s. I totally thought the women with the scar who owns the bar was going to kill Ani or set her up on the boat via the Mexican cartel.

my dad and I are convinced the girl with the guitar fucked everyone over.
 
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