Tree wells

GKO

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So i was reading transworld snowboarding today and there was a whole page on tree well safety.they are close to the bottom of trees and once you get in them they act like quick sand and you can die. It says they happen at the beginning of the season after a lot of light snow (which i know we wont be getting anytime soon in the east). So i dont know if anyone here has been in one or seen someone in one or even knows about them so i though i would write this to educate people cause I sure didnt know about them and i have been skiing for over 9 years. So watch out for tree wells!
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very scary shit, had a couple bad run in with them. not just early season though i dont know what there talking about. not a lot you can do to avoid them short of not skiing in trees, just be careful and try and ski with a friend.
 
How the fuck can you die from falling in one of those? I fall into those at least once every day I ski trees, sometimes upside down and backwards with my skis in the most awkward positon and get stuck for like 15+ minutes and not once I have thought "holy fuck I'm going to die". Get skis off, throw poles up, use skis to get out. Unlesss I am terribly mistaken and the tree well area in the picute is like magic snow that sucks you in and not some gaping ass hole just lurking under the branches.
 
because if your head gets caught under it, and your arms are trapped, there is no way in hell you can get out unless you get rescued. There have been a few guys who have died from them at my local hill. Tree Wells can kill you
 
Yea my friend last weekend was skiing some trees with me at Stevens and he fell head first in one, and started screaming so i go and find him upside down freaking out, i had to pull him out from it, scary shit.
 
Quite easily. You fall in, a huge sluff of snow falls in after you, you suffocate if you are by yourself or your friends cant get you out. If you are in an area with a ton of snow tree wells are much more dangerous (read: DEEP). Coming from the east coast I never really thought of them as a serious concern, it took all of about 1 day of shredding at Mammoth to get my eyes opened.

Dangerous Tree Well from Junction 133 on Vimeo.
 
My little brother got stuck in one. Scary shit for him. Could have been real bad if we weren't with him.
 
very dangerous and should not be fucked with. one person died at meadows skiing in bounds, 5 people couldn't get their buddy out in time.
 
Haha you just gave a first hand account of why tree wells are dangerous and you are trying to say they aren't... Imagine if there was a creek in your face or your skis were already popped off ten feet up the hill or your shoulder was dislocated or all of the above?
 
I've never had any trouble with them, but a junior high teacher I had said he got stuck in one once, and got really lucky someone saw him fall in, or he probably would've died. I ski at Mt. Hood by the way
 
ive fallen into one, just had too much speed in the glades and fell in it. I had to yell to my dad and his buddy who i was skiing with and they literally had to drag me up and out. Scary shit though, good thing they saw me fall in
 
my buddy got stuck in one one time, it was weird though because i believe the tree had been cut down, he was just cruising through a seemingly clear line and dropped. we had to pull him out.
 
NARSID!

Non-Avalanche-Related-Snow-Immersion-Death

The organization is out of Oregon i think, theyre all about bringing awareness to the issue. Correct me if im wrong but there are more NARSID deaths in oregon/wash area than avalanches each year.
 
I have actually gotten stuck into these skiing peace coast stuff and hiking in it, Its scary shit. Definitely something all hipsters should check out before taking their tricks to the backcountry
 
Watch out! I knew this guy:
Report from KCBS. This was apparently during one of those mega dumps in the Tahoe area which caused all sorts of havoc.

Posted: Monday, 28 January 2008 3:12PM

San Francisco Man Dies in Tahoe Skiing Accident

LAKE TAHOE, Calif. (KCBS/AP) -- A San Francisco man was killed in a skiing accident at Homewood Mountain Resort near Lake Tahoe, according to the Placer County sheriff's office.Tyler A. Palmer, 37, was found upside down in a snow bank under a tree Sunday afternoon, officials said.A passing ski patrolman helped dig him out and started CPR until paramedics arrived, but those efforts were unsuccessful.Palmer was declared dead at the scene about 45 minutes later.Palmer was skiing in bounds on an expert run, officials said.His death is being called accidental.
 
for your sake i hope you read all the posts in this thread so you learn something that will probably save your life.
 
I do NOT envy anyone that lives in an area where a treewell can kill you, that's scary shit.

I ski in the Canadian rockies and I've fallen into lots of tree wells, always taken 20+ minutes to dig myself out, but I've never thought I was going to be stuck there forever. When I ski in other areas, this thread will have helped me out, Ill make sure Im damn careful and shred with a friend.
 
cant imagine them out west ive fallen in 2 on the east coast maybe 4-6 feet deep and i was scared shitless since it was head first
 
A woman died inbounds at bachelor a couple of years ago. She double ejected and went into the well face first. The people skiing with her had no idea where she went even though she was just 20 feet from where she ejected from her skis. Search teams didn't find her for hours
 
BUMP- Very sad news from Wolf Creek, CO this week: http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_13968203RIP Alex Singer. I was down there and heard of several other close calls with tree wells too, very sketchy with that amount of snow coming down in a short period of time.
Tree wells are never to be underestimated...ski with a friend I guess, even on a pow day inbounds!
 
I've fallen into a tree well twice upside down in a position that if I wasn't skiing with other people who could eject my bindings for me, I would not have been able to escape. Tree wells can be really sketchy, but there are also few things funnier than siting and throwing snowballs at your buddy who is unsuccessfully trying to climb out of one (provided it's not a dangerous situation).
 
Has anyone tried skiing with an Avalung if they ski trees a lot?

I think it'll be a good investment...
 
I fell in one when I was 9 with no skis on, feet first. It was in April, and it was the end of the day. I was buried up to my mouth, and my uncle had to pull me out. Scary stuff for sure.

I think several people have died at Alpental from this.
 
A few safety tips about skiing in trees:Have an easy to access whistle. When you're stuck in a tree well, its a lot easier to use a whistle than yell, your energy is better used keeping you warm. Don't wear polestraps if your pole gets snagged its a pain in the ass and if you fall in a treewell with your polestraps, snow on your poles will cause your arms to be pinned down meaning you can't even reach for your bindings or whistle.
For that dumb faggot that thinks a tree well cant kill you, not only can you get stuck to the point of suffocation, the snow on loaded branches can easily fall down and bury you or knock you unconscious if your not wearing a helmet. I've dug out someone to which it's happened.
 
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_13968203

CU-Boulder student killed in skiing accident at Wolf Creek

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Alex Singer in Moab during spring break in 2009. (Courtesy of Josh Morton)

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The body of a 22-year-old University of Colorado student was found at the Wolf Creek Ski Area on Wednesday.

Alex

Singer, a senior studying ecology and evolutionary biology from

Chappaqua, N.Y, bought a half-day pass at the ski resort that sits

northeast of Pagosa Springs on Tuesday, said Mineral County Coroner

Charles Downing.

"His car stayed in the parking lot all night

long," he said. "So we are pretty sure the accident occurred sometime

Tuesday after he purchased his ticket."

On Wednesday, another skier found Singer buried in snow at the base of a tree, Downing said.

Singer was an avid skier, and he was training to work on ski patrol at Copper Mountain, according to his friends and family.

"He

lived for those powder days. He died doing something he loved," said

Josh Morton, Singer's roommate and also a senior at CU. "He went down

to Wolf Creek because they got 4 feet of snow."

Singer left

Boulder for the mountains on Tuesday morning, first stopping at

Breckenridge. But when he saw how little it had snowed there, he pushed

on for Wolf Creek, said Morton, a snowboarder who got in about 50 ski

days last winter with Singer.

"He was really intelligent and full of life," Morton said. "Anything active and outside he was always down for."

As

a high school student in New York, Singer set his heart on going to CU

after university recruiters showed him a poster of the campus, said his

mother, Susan Singer.

"He said, 'I'll look at any school, and

I'll go visit any college,'" Susan Singer remembered. " 'But I'm going

to the University of Colorado.'"

Alex Singer was already a good skier when he showed up for his freshman year.

"He's

been skiing all his life," his mom said. "He learned to ski at

Steamboat and Whistler. He wanted to be in the mountains all the time."

The family hopes to have a memorial service in Boulder, but details have not been set.

Singer

was the second CU student to die in a week. On Dec. 3, Transito "Tito"

Eduardo Torres, also a senior, died after police say he jumped from an

overpass onto U.S. 36.

"Our entire university community is

saddened by the death of Alex H. Singer," said Deb Coffin, CU dean of

students, in a statement to the media. "By all accounts, Alex was a

good student and a valued member of our community. Coming on the heels

of the passing of Transito 'Tito' Torres last week, this is an extra

blow to our community and our student body."

Coffin said

counseling services will be available to anyone who is affected through

the Office of Counseling and Psychological Services.

Contact Camera Staff Writer Laura Snider at 303-473-1327 or sniderl@dailycamera.com.

 
I agree completely with the general attitude of this thread and want to add that the few times I have been stuck in tree wells it is very easy to get frustrated and waste energy floundering around trying to get out. I think the best way i ever found to get out of the situation was to find a way to effectively spread your weight evenly so that you dont sink down when you are trying to get out.
 
when i skied in japan they warned me real hard about them ... and yeah tolde me some pretty scary stories. fucking scarfed me man, almost feel in one.
 
went off a jump, headbanged too hard and landed head first in one. was stuck upside down under the snow and my friend had to pull me out... it was fucking hilarious, talk about major steez
 
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