GotamaBCshredder
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Hey what do you guys use for beepers and why? I use a tracker but I've been told the Orthovox CS-1? is a lot better but I don't know why
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alpinecowboy84
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Mammut Barryvox, is the fucking shit. (hello, ability to switch from digital to analog!)
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skier_boy26
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bcs tracker, its not too bad. never had to use it yet... knock on wood
d686
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BCA Tracker... Stay away from analog unless you have been using them for years and practice all the time... As for the analog/digital hybrids yeah they are pretty good but it is like talking about difference between made'n ak vs. seth pistol - the pistol will do you just fine.
If you are worried about the range of a digital unit like the Tracker, break up your lines into smaller segments so that your buddies are closer to you if something does go wrong.
Most important thing is awareness: If they see you go under and follow the flow of the slide the shorter range shouldn't be an issue. That's why it is crucial for only one rider to be moving at a time in the BC and the others to be watching him, aware of what is happening.
And remember, just cause in the movies you see riders skiing long lines with no one nearby doesnt mean you should do it -- they have spotters in a heli. Drill into your buddies that it's not everyone for himself out there, and to go one at a time along a similiar path. Your buddy can have the best avalanche transciever money can buy, but if he is skiing a couple hundred meters away concentrating on his own shit while you go under he will (1) have no idea that you're gone, and (2) not know where to start the search.
If you use common sense, the Tracker is as good as they get.
If you are worried about the range of a digital unit like the Tracker, break up your lines into smaller segments so that your buddies are closer to you if something does go wrong.
Most important thing is awareness: If they see you go under and follow the flow of the slide the shorter range shouldn't be an issue. That's why it is crucial for only one rider to be moving at a time in the BC and the others to be watching him, aware of what is happening.
And remember, just cause in the movies you see riders skiing long lines with no one nearby doesnt mean you should do it -- they have spotters in a heli. Drill into your buddies that it's not everyone for himself out there, and to go one at a time along a similiar path. Your buddy can have the best avalanche transciever money can buy, but if he is skiing a couple hundred meters away concentrating on his own shit while you go under he will (1) have no idea that you're gone, and (2) not know where to start the search.
If you use common sense, the Tracker is as good as they get.
Fattwins
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good post on skiing one at a time its so important. vid riders use spotters and radios in the helmuts to pointout lines. They do it to stay away from no go zones and avies.
I like the SOS cause range is damn long. the Barryvox got recalled this year so..... you decide. I own 3 different ones and can say this. You need to practise whether its a digi or a beapy one. the way a beason works is different than you think. it doesnt work in straight lines but in in pulses. so you will walk in on a circle if you dont grid search.
Barryvox true range 35m
SoS 75M I trust 75 over 35 any day.
that said the barryvox is easy to use if you read the book.
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I like the SOS cause range is damn long. the Barryvox got recalled this year so..... you decide. I own 3 different ones and can say this. You need to practise whether its a digi or a beapy one. the way a beason works is different than you think. it doesnt work in straight lines but in in pulses. so you will walk in on a circle if you dont grid search.
Barryvox true range 35m
SoS 75M I trust 75 over 35 any day.
that said the barryvox is easy to use if you read the book.
P.S. JAPAN HAS SICK POWDER
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GotamaBCshredder
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So will an analog beeper work with a digital or are they not compatible?
$1080PLP$
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Mammut Barryvox is the fucking shit. I've been looking into buying one for the past year or so and the Mammut looks the best product for the best price and the digital to anolog is dope, means you will never not be compatible to your group.
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When I was 15 i found a mole on my neck and i knew then that I should try to make a living skiing... - Eric Pollard
d686
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digital and analog transcievers are compatible as long as they use the same frequency **which almost all do**..
i.e. ortovox, tracker, etc, will all work.
the 2 main differences in the way digital and analog work is (1) the search method and (2) the range.
digital are WAY easier to use when searching because they will have an arrow pointing direction and a distance readout. analog transcievers have much more complicated search patterns which i wont even get into here. nuff said that if someone was looking for me i would want them with digital because it is much easier to use.
the downside with digital is that the range isnt as good as analog... meaning if you havent been paying attention and you have no idea where your buddy is buried you will need to be closer to him before the digital unit will pick up a signal and start guiding you in.
i.e. ortovox, tracker, etc, will all work.
the 2 main differences in the way digital and analog work is (1) the search method and (2) the range.
digital are WAY easier to use when searching because they will have an arrow pointing direction and a distance readout. analog transcievers have much more complicated search patterns which i wont even get into here. nuff said that if someone was looking for me i would want them with digital because it is much easier to use.
the downside with digital is that the range isnt as good as analog... meaning if you havent been paying attention and you have no idea where your buddy is buried you will need to be closer to him before the digital unit will pick up a signal and start guiding you in.
GotamaBCshredder
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So would a Opti-finder Pieps 457 work with a Tracker? I have a tracker but 2 of my friends ahve these and they look like they are like ancient.
d686
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yeah 457 is the frequency they use and the tracker is the same as is almost all of the mainstream transcievers in using 457..
do a test run with 'em dude... remember: if you have good gear and know what you are doing you might be able to find your friends if they get buried, but if they have some ancient analog unit that they dont know how to use they might not be able to find ya...
make sure they (and you) practice together and know what you are doing with the units.. and take shovels, probes, and common sense, too.... if you got gotamas and decent avalanche gear sounds like you are getting prepped for some good backcountry action - dont skimp on practice cause bad shit does happen out there.
do a test run with 'em dude... remember: if you have good gear and know what you are doing you might be able to find your friends if they get buried, but if they have some ancient analog unit that they dont know how to use they might not be able to find ya...
make sure they (and you) practice together and know what you are doing with the units.. and take shovels, probes, and common sense, too.... if you got gotamas and decent avalanche gear sounds like you are getting prepped for some good backcountry action - dont skimp on practice cause bad shit does happen out there.
GotamaBCshredder
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its not me as much as my buddies they all thuink that theres nothin to be scared of but yeah we are gettin decked out pretty well and been practicin
d686
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make 'em watch pollards segment in yearbook where he gets caught in avalanches twice... granted he didnt get completely buried but like he said if he hadn't aired off some clifs he probably would have. the backcountry is where it's at, but don't take it lightly, especially if you are spending the cash on good gear...
telestar6
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I like the Barravox(sp) ones. They are easy to use and have a great harnessing system that makes them easy to get off when you need to start searching.
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I think rails in general are just a phase. - Anthony Boronowski
D-loc's picture looks like a monkey smoking that cig. If you had a mug like that would you really want everyone to see it.
Summit1776
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Analog and Digital transmit identically, it's only the recieve that is different (old 2.2Khz and dual frequency beacons like the F2 nonwithstanding).
If you aren't going to practice a whole lot, get the tracker. It's the easiest to learn.
If you understand flux lines and will practice a whole lot get an analog SOS or Ortovox F1 (I love my F1).
Anyone else look at the Peips DSP and Barryvox.
I was not overly impressed with the Peips Optifind 457.
Remember, beacons only work in pairs, otherwise they are expensive corpse locators (which is still nice, probe lines suck).
Follow backcountry safe travel protocols, take an avalanche course, practice often, and be smart.
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If you aren't going to practice a whole lot, get the tracker. It's the easiest to learn.
If you understand flux lines and will practice a whole lot get an analog SOS or Ortovox F1 (I love my F1).
Anyone else look at the Peips DSP and Barryvox.
I was not overly impressed with the Peips Optifind 457.
Remember, beacons only work in pairs, otherwise they are expensive corpse locators (which is still nice, probe lines suck).
Follow backcountry safe travel protocols, take an avalanche course, practice often, and be smart.
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It is what I would do if it were me. It's not me and neither are you.
Mountain Rescue - High Altitude Dive Rescue