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Hi, does anyone else trail run? I got super into it this year and feel pretty dumb for not doing it sooner. Seems like it should help my ski touring out this winter.

Do you guys run thru the winter or leave it as a seasonal sport? (Also if you do run in the winter how are the kahtoola microspikes because my yaktrax run did not hold up this past winter)
 
topic:safarisam said:
Hi, does anyone else trail run? I got super into it this year and feel pretty dumb for not doing it sooner. Seems like it should help my ski touring out this winter.

Do you guys run thru the winter or leave it as a seasonal sport? (Also if you do run in the winter how are the kahtoola microspikes because my yaktrax run did not hold up this past winter)
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I do! It's the worst and also the best! I mostly run in the shoulder seasons and some in the winter. Mid-summer we usually do a few big run/hike/scrambles with plenty of walking, but jogging in the mellow bits. IMO "Trail Running" is best used as an excuse to do routes that usually take backpackers three days in one long day, so you get to drink hot coffee before, and cold beer after, instead of hauling around a heavy pack.

For winter running, I don't do have microspikes, I have done a few spring jogs that required an ice axe (most running vests have good attachment points). In the winter I'm usually running packed snowmobile trails which have the perfect consistency for jogging without hurting your knees and have great traction.

For winter runs I do have the Salomon S-Lab XA Alpine, which is a pretty interesting shoe. It's super expensive, but also if you're using it mostly on snow/mud it never wears out, mine are four years old and still look new. If you run in the winter a lot I highly recommend it. The sole is pretty stiff, it's not fun on like dry dirt trails, but you can kick steps really well with it, and it keeps your feet really dry, and the gaiter thing is awesome. I believe Salomon made a crampon for it for some of their athletes, but I don't think it ever became publicly available.

I've been in a bunch of different vests/packs and haven't found the perfect one yet, although I do love the Salomon ones. Currently in an INOV8 pack that is so big I could probably camp out of it, need to get something smaller for next year. And I need to get a little windbreaker/houdini thing.

Running is cool! Let's have a running thread!
 
I love it but can't anymore. My brain doesn't like the compression. Knees don't really either. Shit is super fun though . Ill still sorta run up hills sometimes. No compression when you're going up steep stuff.

Trail running is dank though.
 
14178405:cydwhit said:
For winter running, I don't do have microspikes, I have done a few spring jogs that required an ice axe (most running vests have good attachment points). In the winter I'm usually running packed snowmobile trails which have the perfect consistency for jogging without hurting your knees and have great traction.

For winter runs I do have the Salomon S-Lab XA Alpine, which is a pretty interesting shoe. It's super expensive, but also if you're using it mostly on snow/mud it never wears out, mine are four years old and still look new. If you run in the winter a lot I highly recommend it.

I've been in a bunch of different vests/packs and haven't found the perfect one yet, although I do love the Salomon ones. Currently in an INOV8 pack that is so big I could probably camp out of it, need to get something smaller for next year. And I need to get a little windbreaker/houdini thing.
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I hadn't considered running snowmobile trails, I do multiuse XC trails but occasionally run up Baldy which requires some kind of additional traction device. Will have to check out some FS trails.

I was going to get the Salomon Speedcross gore-tex for the winter running since I did enough snow time to justify a dedicated winter/early spring shoe.

Osprey running vests work really well for me!! I cannot recommend mine enough, I have the Dyna 1.5 one but will likely grab a Dyna 6 for winter runs. It holds the same amount of water, just has a bigger pouch for shoving a coat in.
 
Yeah! I was thinking about making a running thread.

Trail running is where it's at for summer training for touring. As far running in the winter goes, the Salomon XA alpine is great but $$$, I did a bunch of trail and road running races last summer and won a prodeal on Salomon so I'm lucky. But in all honesty, nordic skiing might just be a better option for winter.
 
14178436:Bened_notnil said:
But in all honesty, nordic skiing might just be a better option for winter.
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Did a bunch of classic last winter, maybe I'll try skate skiing. Lots of really good nordic skiing in SW MT but sometimes running scratches the itch, especially when it's early spring with mixed conditions.
 
Welcome to the pack, its a washed up green name thing apparently. Noob here too, COVID pushed me down the rabbit hole this summer.

Looking for a durable, quick drying and well ventilating shoe. Replacing La Sportiva Ultra Raptors, which I have loved as a one shoe solution hiking boots and trailrunners.
 
14178509:RudyGarmisch said:
Welcome to the pack, its a washed up green name thing apparently. Noob here too, COVID pushed me down the rabbit hole this summer.

Looking for a durable, quick drying and well ventilating shoe. Replacing La Sportiva Ultra Raptors, which I have loved as a one shoe solution hiking boots and trailrunners.
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https://www.salomon.com/en-us/shop/product/s-lab-xa-amphib-2.html#color=12361

These have always worked well for me, but they do fit weird around the toe so be warned if you have fat toes.
 
Far easier on your joints than pavement.

Hot and humid I am not going in the fucking woods tho and will just run along the sea as I live next to the ocean. I hate swatting bugs nonstop.

Was gonna trail run tomorrow but its 80 and muggy so will normal jog.
 
Starting doing it more because my friends are hardos and don't want to just hike anymore. Amazing how much ground you can cover, but in my experience it ends up being just as fast to walk uphill and run the flats and down. Great summer activity but once the snow starts falling there is no reason to do it over ski touring for me.

I am 100% converted to trail runners over hiking boots though. Unless you have a 50lb pack, shoes and thin socks are the way to go and make my feet much happier.
 
I don't but have on downhill sections and its got to improve balance and agility wich i assume helps the following winter in skiing.
 
Running the virtual WLT this weekend, the race was supposed to be last weekend but was canceled due to covid.
 
14178523:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
I start running

Something hurts or I get hurt

I stop running

I like it, but its so hard on various parts of my body
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I had to run a half marathon with no training and hurt myself to get over that. You're carrying too much weight.

Going for 26.2 end of November. 14 coming up Friday. Just gotta lose the last 10 pounds and it'll be fine the cardio is the easy part.
 
I’m a few knee surgeries down the curve, so running, especially on variable/rocky terrain is pretty scary for me, but I’ve been dipping my toes.

i primarily hike/old lady power walk (on flat I average 14 min miles, steep rocky inclines something like 16-17 min), but as I’ve gotten stronger I will run a couple miles at a time and surprisingly I’ve liked it.

I hike/walk on average 12-14 miles a day (purposeful walking, not just like step counting throughout the day) but I’ve gotten up to such large distances that it takes a huge block of time so I want to run more to cut down.

I’ve been wearing low top hiking shoes made by Salomon that have a drawstring system and they’re ok I guess, but I’m wondering if y out guys think I should get some trail running shoes even if I spend a lot of time hiking/walking?

Any thoughts? As for the winter, I think I’m going to mostly transition to ski touring to get my fix. But holy shit, I have LOVED getting all this walking/outdoor time.
 
14181542:casual said:
I’m a few knee surgeries down the curve, so running, especially on variable/rocky terrain is pretty scary for me, but I’ve been dipping my toes.

i primarily hike/old lady power walk (on flat I average 14 min miles, steep rocky inclines something like 16-17 min), but as I’ve gotten stronger I will run a couple miles at a time and surprisingly I’ve liked it.

I hike/walk on average 12-14 miles a day (purposeful walking, not just like step counting throughout the day) but I’ve gotten up to such large distances that it takes a huge block of time so I want to run more to cut down.

I’ve been wearing low top hiking shoes made by Salomon that have a drawstring system and they’re ok I guess, but I’m wondering if y out guys think I should get some trail running shoes even if I spend a lot of time hiking/walking?

Any thoughts? As for the winter, I think I’m going to mostly transition to ski touring to get my fix. But holy shit, I have LOVED getting all this walking/outdoor time.
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I wear Salomon Speedcrosses and have worn out 4 pairs back to back by hiking/ backpacking/ trail running in em. I like the grip and they fit my fit well so not gonna stop! Hiking boots are great for when you have a pack or have weak ankles so you get more support. Other than that, you can use trail runners
 
I must have weak ankles because I roll one every single day LOL

14181628:AndrewGravesSV said:
I wear Salomon Speedcrosses and have worn out 4 pairs back to back by hiking/ backpacking/ trail running in em. I like the grip and they fit my fit well so not gonna stop! Hiking boots are great for when you have a pack or have weak ankles so you get more support. Other than that, you can use trail runners
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Ive done it a few times, just like mountain biking more.

PSA IF YOU ARE RUNNING ON A MTB TRAIL DONT BE A ASS ABOUT BIKES GOING TO FAST AND DANGEROUS.

seriously ive had this happen where people are running on trails intended for biking and they see you coming for a ways away and wait till the last second to move out of the way and just get grumpy
 
14265780:safarisam said:
Running szn is kinda here?
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I really enjoyed running when I was in high school, quit when I got to college and exclusively rode bikes. Finally got a pair of trail running shoes last spring and didn't really use them much but I'm kicking myself about it now because I used to live right on Peets hill/ burke park and had great access to good trails. Did a route a couple times where I would bike to Triple Tree and ditch the bike at the upper trailhead where it connects to Painted Hills and run TT. Made it so much more enjoyable to sandwich the running with a bike ride.

I really would like to run more but I almost always would rather be on a bike. Super lofty goal but I think I would like to run The Rut at big sky
 
14265783:Piss_Boy said:
Ive done it a few times, just like mountain biking more.

PSA IF YOU ARE RUNNING ON A MTB TRAIL DONT BE A ASS ABOUT BIKES GOING TO FAST AND DANGEROUS.

seriously ive had this happen where people are running on trails intended for biking and they see you coming for a ways away and wait till the last second to move out of the way and just get grumpy
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I totally agree with you on grumpy trail runners, but on multi use trails they have the right of way no matter if you are riding up or down. The ability to ride a MTB quickly through rocky difficult terrain does come with the responsibly of being more attentive than most other trail users. I pretty much always operate under the assumption that a runner either has headphones in, is not paying attention, or is so deep in embracing how much running sucks that all they can hear is their own heartbeat and breathing and is actually incapable of looking at anything other than the trail directly in front of their feet.

Don't get me wrong I hate grumpy entitled trail users who seem like they never learned to share as much as the next guy, but bikes have to yield to everyone and always be able to stop in a controlled manor with quick reflexes no matter how fast they are going on multi use trails.
 
14265798:No.Quarter said:
I totally agree with you on grumpy trail runners, but on multi use trails they have the right of way no matter if you are riding up or down. The ability to ride a MTB quickly through rocky difficult terrain does come with the responsibly of being more attentive than most other trail users. I pretty much always operate under the assumption that a runner either has headphones in, is not paying attention, or is so deep in embracing how much running sucks that all they can hear is their own heartbeat and breathing and is actually incapable of looking at anything other than the trail directly in front of their feet.

Don't get me wrong I hate grumpy entitled trail users who seem like they never learned to share as much as the next guy, but bikes have to yield to everyone and always be able to stop in a controlled manor with quick reflexes no matter how fast they are going on multi use trails.
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Of course man, I always yield but when I said that they freak out when we go fast its typically after we yield anyway. Either way whoevers in the right or wrong here theres prolly room for both sides to get better at sharing the trails. And we have one common enemy. Dog walkers that let dogs poop on the trails
 
14265801:Piss_Boy said:
And we have one common enemy. Dog walkers that let dogs poop on the trails
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And equestrians, fuck equestrians. The number of times I've seen a horse going up the down side of a flowy multi use trail or how much damage I've seen from horses in the mud is too dam much.
 
14265805:No.Quarter said:
And equestrians, fuck equestrians. The number of times I've seen a horse going up the down side of a flowy multi use trail or how much damage I've seen from horses in the mud is too dam much.
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YES. Horses arent as much of a problem at my local but ive definetly seen some hove prints. This one time I just got to a trail and I was unloading my bike and saw a lady with her dog heading to the trail I was planning on going, decided to venture to a trail at this system that just popped up and almost right away was met with multiple piles of dog poop. Ended up with a new down tube color though!
 
14265795:No.Quarter said:
I really enjoyed running when I was in high school, quit when I got to college and exclusively rode bikes. Finally got a pair of trail running shoes last spring and didn't really use them much but I'm kicking myself about it now because I used to live right on Peets hill/ burke park and had great access to good trails. Did a route a couple times where I would bike to Triple Tree and ditch the bike at the upper trailhead where it connects to Painted Hills and run TT. Made it so much more enjoyable to sandwich the running with a bike ride.

I really would like to run more but I almost always would rather be on a bike. Super lofty goal but I think I would like to run The Rut at big sky
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When I lived off Harrison it was a 5/10 min run to Galligator which got me into running. I usually do it in the spring and when I need a break from biking these days. Gets me ready to bike imo. The rut is badass, I ran the Bridger Foothills Trail last year, hoping to do the Ridge this year.
 
14265837:safarisam said:
When I lived off Harrison it was a 5/10 min run to Galligator which got me into running. I usually do it in the spring and when I need a break from biking these days. Gets me ready to bike imo. The rut is badass, I ran the Bridger Foothills Trail last year, hoping to do the Ridge this year.
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LOL, just checked and Run the Rut is sold out, so much for that goal.

Where are you planning on starting the Ridge from? Fairy lake?
 
14265842:No.Quarter said:
LOL, just checked and Run the Rut is sold out, so much for that goal.

Where are you planning on starting the Ridge from? Fairy lake?
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Yeah, I'll probably do the foothills again first then the ridge in like 2/3 weeks after that. I'd start at Fairly Lake.
 
Tried to get into trail running, it was a lot of suffering but I was sticking with it until I almost shit my pants. Haven’t done it since
 
14266120:CLQ said:
Tried to get into trail running, it was a lot of suffering but I was sticking with it until I almost shit my pants. Haven’t done it since
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This! Nelson’s mountains trails are fucking steep! Id rather bike down
 
14266120:CLQ said:
Tried to get into trail running, it was a lot of suffering but I was sticking with it until I almost shit my pants. Haven’t done it since
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hardest 30ft of your life, but someone had to get the mail!
 
My problem when in the mountains is i stop and galk at everything and never want to leave, running just wouldn't fit into my schedule
 
If you're trying to get into running but having issues, slow down, and run for very short periods of time. It shouldn't feel hard. Work up from there. Really, I hear so often that people hate to run, or its hard, or they get injured. Trying to do too much to soon will cause failure.
 
Only 1% of people who do it are actually made for it. It's friggin hell on your body, not worth it.
 
As the trails are getting more idiots on them with the Spring here, friendly reminder respect respect trail etiquette and not be like [tag=129479]@X_ANKILLA[/tag]. Yield to uphill traffic when you are going down.

**This post was edited on May 22nd 2021 at 4:51:49pm
 
Back at CU I used to get cranked on my vaporizer and would run the trails up past Chataqua park. I had some good times mobbing around and jumping over rock gardens etc. I hate running on pavement but always enjoyed trail running. I like hiking more now though and have kids now so it fits my lifestyle better. Carrying a pack full of food/water/gear/24lb toddler is a workout in itself.
 
14291411:skeirman said:
As the trails are getting more idiots on them with the Spring here, friendly reminder respect respect trail etiquette and not be like [tag=129479]@X_ANKILLA[/tag] . Yield to uphill traffic when you are going down.

**This post was edited on May 22nd 2021 at 4:51:49pm
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People who are having more fun have the right of way on trails. Walking is lame. Downhilling is LIT.
 
Back when i was a competitive runner my dad and i were in zurich and we found a 1/4 mile woodchip loop in the woods near our hotel. It was so soft that i did an interval workout on the trail barefoot, doing like 8 or 10 repeats around 67-64.

fun times
 
Since this thread is bumped...HELL YEA. I trail run all year round down on the front range. Probably only once or twice a week during the winter throw some spikes on for snowy sections. Its hella peaceful. Got no goals, no ambitions, don't track miles or vert or whatever just run up kind of calmly and then try and mob down without eating it. Sometimes out there for hours just zoning out enjoying being in the woods. Trail running is so fun cause you don't need a ton of expensive gear or good weather just a pair of shoes and some water if its hot. Biking is cool, but like skiing its a pain in the ass sport. Only downside to trail running is you can't run all the time else you are sure to get injured. Its great motivation to not drink a ton and eat like shit and its pretty addicting cause the better in shape you get the easier it is to just be out their strollin' along into the unknown for longer. I did run xc in HS so disclaimer I probably didn't have to suffer as much as an adult to get to the "fun" running feeling as opposed to great pain feeling.
 
Bringing this back cause I met a true God today. I was hiking down from mt superior and I was going down over a steep scree section over a no fall zone. This dude comes flying in, running, over the same section that took me 7 minutes in about 20 seconds. I ask him where he is going and he says, "I'm on a time crunch, probably just gonna send it down the way right here. Mt superior is about 50 degrees at the top and this guy just starts hiking/skiing down a scree slope in his shoes at breakneck pace. I have no clue how someone could be so comfortable doing that where if you fuck up you will be cartwheeling over rocks and cliffs.
 
Also, he was shirtless and had no water bottle that I could see, not even a camelback.

14302134:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
Bringing this back cause I met a true God today. I was hiking down from mt superior and I was going down over a steep scree section over a no fall zone. This dude comes flying in, running, over the same section that took me 7 minutes in about 20 seconds. I ask him where he is going and he says, "I'm on a time crunch, probably just gonna send it down the way right here. Mt superior is about 50 degrees at the top and this guy just starts hiking/skiing down a scree slope in his shoes at breakneck pace. I have no clue how someone could be so comfortable doing that where if you fuck up you will be cartwheeling over rocks and cliffs.
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14302134:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
Bringing this back cause I met a true God today. I was hiking down from mt superior and I was going down over a steep scree section over a no fall zone. This dude comes flying in, running, over the same section that took me 7 minutes in about 20 seconds. I ask him where he is going and he says, "I'm on a time crunch, probably just gonna send it down the way right here. Mt superior is about 50 degrees at the top and this guy just starts hiking/skiing down a scree slope in his shoes at breakneck pace. I have no clue how someone could be so comfortable doing that where if you fuck up you will be cartwheeling over rocks and cliffs.
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Was it this guy?

 
I’m brand new to running, but I’m loving it. In the last year, I’ve averaged over 10 miles a day hiking/walking, but have just now in the last few weeks started running, and mostly trail running. Did this today:

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For a guy that’s closer to 40 than 30 with no running background….I’m stoked!

There’s sections that are stupidly steep that I had to walk for a few seconds here and there, but man…I’m starting to feel like when it’s flat I could run forever.

**This post was edited on Jul 7th 2021 at 1:01:13am
 
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