Tow ropes

stone__

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I've never understood why more mountains don't have a tow rope. I grew up in the Midwest so I had one but now I live west coast and I just don't understand why there aren't ropes. The parks are great and there are plenty of places for a rope and plenty of funds.
 
14514794:dwt802 said:
pretty sure it has to do with insuranc

I ski at big bear and if they have insurance for a freestyle team, full sized halfpipe, and a bunch of rails and jumps I imagine they could get a rope
 
Ski bowl and mission ridge have a rope tow park. Heard mt. Ashland will be getting one soon. I never understood why there aren’t more out west, especially for smaller mountains that don’t have the staff to build and maintain big parks
 
Skibowls rope tows have been there for years. But skibowl in all fairness has been a very smart ski area. They were one of the first ever to have summer activities and they just converted one rope tow to a park. Very smart on their part

14514890:verynormalguy said:
Ski bowl and mission ridge have a rope tow park. Heard mt. Ashland will be getting one soon. I never understood why there aren’t more out west, especially for smaller mountains that don’t have the staff to build and maintain big parks
 
14514886:snowfinder said:
To be fair I have never skied in the midwest, I've only skied at real mountains and they never have tow ropes just t-bars.

i would be excited about a t bar even but rope tows are usually better for park because you can grab the rope at any point and more people can be on it at once
 
14514942:stone__ said:
i would be excited about a t bar even but rope tows are usually better for park because you can grab the rope at any point and more people can be on it at once

Plus t bars are slow, I’ve seen tow ropes whipping before
 
I get it but places out west have chairlifts that actually go somewhere. You can ride more than a 20 second run with a chair. That said tows are a cool vibe in the park.

The only ones I know of are Ski Bowl at hood, Kingvale in Tahoe, and Mission Ridge in WA.

I wouldn't mind seeing more ropes out there for small hot lap parks, but people from the midwest that complain all the time about not finding them should explore their mtns a bit. Get down on full park laps, maybe even make the forbidden turns. Ride some tree runs, hit a cliff. There are some good mountains with top to bottom parks on chairlifts and also plenty with some fun terrain on the way too the park.

Ropes are cool, but so is the mountain.
 
sometimes when you tryna dial a trick you need hot laps on one feature. any park can benefit from having their most hot lappable features serviced by a rope.
 
programmed_robotsometimes when you tryna dial a trick you need hot laps on one feature. any park can benefit from having their most hot lappable features serviced by a rope.

Idk. Hike it? I get it but takes the same amount of time. A hike sesh on a feature always goes hard too.
 
14514799:snowfinder said:
tow ropes < t-bars

I would fucking love t bars in parks. I've been having hand and wrist issues for years and rope tows can get a bit rough on my hands
 
Grouse just put in a handle tow this year, kinda halfway between a rope tow and a tbar, has these bars that swing off the rope and go behind ur butt. Their park was already sick af but has made it way more convenient to lap
 
I feel like with mountains that have an issue managing their park scene a two rope would be the easiest solution. It keeps us on one trail/one section of the mountain and keeps things more organized. IMO even mountains with great chair service should have a tow or a t bar for their rail yards/ middle sized parks
 
the hill i first skied at had a tow rope as the begginer area lift after deciding begginers was better than park. anyways why would a mountain invest in something that less than 1% of people would use. the big mountains out west arent losing people over a rope tow and anyways they rather invest in begginers and tourists that make them money instead of a guy using his ikon pass 130 days a season.
 
Unfortunately, Jerry and the family aren’t going to pay $100+/ticket a day to ride a mountain covered in ugly rope tows. Even if they are efficient and keep the park rats sequestered away from the general public. Most mountains would rather spend that money on a high speed 12 person bottom to top gondola or something similar. Maybe an 8 seat high speed chair designed by Porsche is in your future.
 
14515190:mackcamp said:
Unfortunately, Jerry and the family aren’t going to pay $100+/ticket a day to ride a mountain covered in ugly rope tows. Even if they are efficient and keep the park rats sequestered away from the general public. Most mountains would rather spend that money on a high speed 12 person bottom to top gondola or something similar. Maybe an 8 seat high speed chair designed by Porsche is in your future.

yea cause a tow rope costs just as much as a high speed 12 person bottom to top gondola. Where i’m skiing is where terrain parks became a thing and i would assume they would try and keep the culture going with something like a rope. they could easily do it they just don’t want to
 
14515151:tutipups said:
the hill i first skied at had a tow rope as the begginer area lift after deciding begginers was better than park. anyways why would a mountain invest in something that less than 1% of people would use. the big mountains out west arent losing people over a rope tow and anyways they rather invest in begginers and tourists that make them money instead of a guy using his ikon pass 130 days a season.

the places i’m skiing at like bear and mammoth have huge park communities and bear/summit is actually where the first terrain park came from. they both have freestyle teams and mammoth especially is huge for park.
 
14515148:rojo.grande said:
I feel like with mountains that have an issue managing their park scene a two rope would be the easiest solution. It keeps us on one trail/one section of the mountain and keeps things more organized. IMO even mountains with great chair service should have a tow or a t bar for their rail yards/ middle sized parks

Literally the perfect way to explain why a rope would be beneficial for any mountain with any sort of park community. Everyone acts like if there were a rope, only the actual park rats would use it. Lots of people like to do a few laps in the park and hit some jumps even if it’s not their main thing.
 
14515074:theabortionator said:
programmed_robotsometimes when you tryna dial a trick you need hot laps on one feature. any park can benefit from having their most hot lappable features serviced by a rope.

Idk. Hike it? I get it but takes the same amount of time. A hike sesh on a feature always goes hard too.

hike sesh does go hard but the difference in my skill level when i’m hiking vs when i’m using a rope is insane just because of how many laps you get
 
14515018:theabortionator said:
I get it but places out west have chairlifts that actually go somewhere. You can ride more than a 20 second run with a chair. That said tows are a cool vibe in the park.

The only ones I know of are Ski Bowl at hood, Kingvale in Tahoe, and Mission Ridge in WA.

I wouldn't mind seeing more ropes out there for small hot lap parks, but people from the midwest that complain all the time about not finding them should explore their mtns a bit. Get down on full park laps, maybe even make the forbidden turns. Ride some tree runs, hit a cliff. There are some good mountains with top to bottom parks on chairlifts and also plenty with some fun terrain on the way too the park.

Ropes are cool, but so is the mountain.

I do love the mountain don’t get me wrong, it’s just it’s hard to see how much progression i’m losing because i have to wait 20-30 mins between each lap when i know i have so much more potential
 
14515227:stone__ said:
Literally the perfect way to explain why a rope would be beneficial for any mountain with any sort of park community. Everyone acts like if there were a rope, only the actual park rats would use it. Lots of people like to do a few laps in the park and hit some jumps even if it’s not their main thing.

yeah but those people would still be there if there wasnt a rope tow
 
14515078:Rparr said:
I would fucking love t bars in parks. I've been having hand and wrist issues for years and rope tows can get a bit rough on my hands

wear leather gloves and get them wet they almost grip on their own
 
a few of the boxes at my local are right next to the rope tow, you can probably get 3 hits on them in 1-2 minutes. It's pretty awesome
 
14515074:theabortionator said:
Idk. Hike it? I get it but takes the same amount of time. A hike sesh on a feature always goes hard too.

Im down with hiking a feature, but in what world does it take the same amount of time to hike vs grabbing the rope? I could probably get 5 hits on a feature via a rope in the time it takes to take my skis off, hike uphill 40 feet, and put my skis back on. Not to mention the effort of hiking will probably shorten the sesh
 
14515074:theabortionator said:
Idk. Hike it? I get it but takes the same amount of time. A hike sesh on a feature always goes hard too.

I'm always down to hike rails. but my problem is if I want to sesh a jump, you have to hike like 5 minutes to get on hit. also at my local the chair that services the park is the chair that all the people who are just sightly better than the bunny hil ride, so that this is stopping at least 5 times on the way up and slowing down probably 8
 
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