Touring set-up

DubV134

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Can anyone comment on a pair of Gotama's with marker Duke, Barron, or F12's from first (or second) hand experience. Just bought the Gotamas new, 10/11 model. Local shop made an offer i couldnt resist. Also does anyone know about a special strap/tape that goes on the bottom of your skis to add grip. I thought i saw something in a video about it....
 
forgot you cant go on NS to try to talk to people without 5 haters jumping on you for being uninformed. so im out of the loop of big mountain skiing, can you blame me. i dont spend much time reading up on these forums and im a student at wvu. we have hills not mountains and they dont require much more than an old pair of 1080s or something.

i bought the fat skis because i found out im invited back out to a resort in colorado for winter and spring breaks. i spent this past summer working an internship there living on property: free hotel room, free food, and most important free mountain pass! granite im there to work, but i dont work all of the hours in a day... decided it was time to upgrade my set-up

maybe question and self-response about skins was "noobish" or whatever but get over yourself and help me out if you actually can give some input about the bindings

 
calm down lassie, all good. just having a little fun.

your stats are? those would be necessary to decide whether or not you'd need a DIN 16, 13 or 12 binding. they're all just dumbed down versions of one another.

lots o people hate Marker though, so get ready to hear that feedback. they're heavy, youre boot is about 3" off the ski, blah blah blah.

personally (I NEVER ski on Markers alpine bindings - have had 2 blow outs on Jesters) I don't mind them. until this season they were my only real option for AT. but now you can get an MFD plate and use a real binding (Tyrolia is my personal favorite - just a choice)

that helpful?
 
very helpful, thanks man! ive never heard of this MFD plate but after checking out their website that seems to be the way to go (just gotta find the extra 300 to get em). does the plate effect the skis ability to bend/flex differently than a AT binding like the baron?
 
www.runmfd.com

thinking of picking some up for myself. I'm in the same boat and since I already have some bindings that would work with them, they seem like the best bet. Based on some research, they don't appear to affect the ski's flex any differently than a regular binding.

You can also check out alpine trekkers (which seem to have a big problem of breaking fairly easily) and dukes, barrons, whatever, but apparently they put you kinda high above the ski and are relatively heavy (though not much different from a binding + mfd plate).

Then, of course, if you wanna go all out, you can look at fritschi, etc, and a get full boot/binding setup, but some say they can't hold up if you push em real hard, and they're certainly more expensive (unless you're in the market for new boots, as well, but those boots are more optimized for the uphill, so they lose some downhill functionality).

All in all, the run MFD setup hasn't really been seriously put to the test (at least by full-on public distribution), but it seems like a really good option for those who want a fully-functional ski in the resort, as well as a touring ski with a fully-functioning binding in the backcountry.
 
how about mounting the MFD alltime, would you mount it right on the skis recommended line? how much of a benefit do you get out of the 3cm adjustment made when the marker duke/baron is put into touring mode?
 
so i know that like half of the replies on this thread are from me and the is likely frowned upon but oh well i wanna make the best decision possible. for the sake of getting good advice about what binding/set up i should go with my stats are: 6'1", 175. im 22 so not really going to be getting much bigger. i am a level 3 skier and plan on going hard on whatever set up i end up with. here on the east coast i have been riding look jib p12 and keep them set at 10.
 
The fact that you don't even know what skins are leads me to believe that you have not even taken a formal backcountry education class. Before you go out buy the gear you need (shovel, probe, beacon) and learn how to use them. Or you could head out alone without any experience and one more idiot will be removed from the gene pool.
 
Yeah your right i have not taken a formal class and dont own all the necessary gear. I grew up skiing on the east coast, maybe a week or two in the rockies a year. currently a student at wvu but just found out less than a week ago i have the opportunity to spend a fat portion of my winter in colorado. likely will be moving out for good after i graduate in may. i plan on buying everything necessary but skis were the first purchase.... obviously! prolly wont have time to take a formal backcountry class before this season but i certainly will not be going out by myself ever.i knew about the idea of skins but didnt know what they were called and if it was a product made by just one company or how to buy them.

are new skiers welcome in the backcountry? i get this impression in all the forums i have been reading that the experienced backcountry skiers like to smirk and talk down at those who are learning. maybe that is cool in the lift line, not really but maybe. however i especially dont see the point of being a douche bag online...
 
Yea, we're bring assholes so you don't come and steal all our good snow...

Even some of the most experienced and most knowledgeable people die in the backcountry every year. It's a dangerous place, people die. If you don't even know enough to know what skins are, how are you going to know enough to not seriously injure or kill yourself or others in the backcountry?

Sure, everyone has to start somewhere, but do some research first, there are lots of post here and on tgr that can help steer you on the right directions and books and other materials. Learn up on what skills you need to learn, knowledge you need to have, and essential gear, then come back if you have any questions. If you take an eduacated thoughtful way of trying to get into backcountry skiing, people will be more than happy to help you.
 
Right on. So smartest thing to do would be sell the skis, read up on all the formal literature i can get my hands on, go to class, read the right blogs, watch the right movies and rock my twin tips around the park and try to take them as deep as i can on the on the in-bounds. And that will give me the chance to demo some of the stuff i want to get. Who wants to buy a brand new pair of last year's Gotama's?
 
What the fuck?

Asking questions is how you learn, you mffuckin 'pros'

and don't even bother replying to this post, just saw something worth replying to

 
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