topic:Shobo said:Thinking on getting either TW pro or honey badger. I have chronics and afterbangs now. Was wondering what the flex is like on the Tw I feel like they’ll be to stiff for me. Anyone know how the flex is on them let me know. I mostly jib around and hit some jumps but nothing crazy.
13910791:MaimHelp said:I have chronics and my friend has twalls. I'd say flex is the same. They ride a ton like chronics too. Honeybadgers are more buttery but if it snows a bit or you wanna hit the trees it'll be harder.
13910817:Shobo said:Ya I’m leaning towards the badgers. I’m mostly skiing east coast and spend most of my time in the park

13910827:Young_patty said:Dude don’t waste your time honestly, if you’re an east coast rail rat they will not hold up well, better off just spending the extra money and getting a ski from:
Icelantic
HG
Moment
vishnu
HG
On3p
HG
or HG
that will actually last you a good amount of time and you won’t be giving your money to line who gives it to K2 who gives it to this rube:
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13910830:Shobo said:Ya I’ve seen a lot of stuff about durability so your probably right. What models would you suggest for something soft and playful kinda like badger but with better durability.
13910832:Young_patty said:Honestly just get wets, I don’t ride V’s and as much as I find the whole new wave thing obnoxious I’d have to recommend them to you. from what I’ve seen they are buttery, and durable as shit (friend only has a couple edge cracks after a heavy season in MN [like slamming your skis on metal hundreds of times a day] and they still have a lot of life left in them [ by the way he has a pair of 183 clouds for sale if anyone wants DM for details])
13910832:Young_patty said:Honestly just get wets, I don’t ride V’s and as much as I find the whole new wave thing obnoxious I’d have to recommend them to you. from what I’ve seen they are buttery, and durable as shit (friend only has a couple edge cracks after a heavy season in MN [like slamming your skis on metal hundreds of times a day] and they still have a lot of life left in them [ by the way he has a pair of 183 clouds for sale if anyone wants DM for details])
13910853:Shobo said:I have a friend who has blends what would be the flex etc Wets compared to blends
13910856:Young_patty said:Another ski I have not ridden,I’d guess about the same in flex but the V’s will be more snappy due to the progressive flex(?). Blends are wider and will be more stable since you have more ski to stand on but V’s will be a lot more nimble and light(??).
13910854:Eggdog said:yo I have the Moment Frankenski and they're super sick. They're hella buttery but still decently poppy and stable on jumps. Plus I can carve and bomb my midwest hills with ease. Def check em out cuz they seem like exactly what ur looking for.
13910865:Shobo said:Fo sure will check em out
13910867:Eggdog said:The durability is great too. I have 1 edge crack from a full season of going ham on rails.Top sheets n bases hold up even better. Plus they have dank square tips and made in USA.
13910853:Shobo said:I have a friend who has blends what would be the flex etc Wets compared to blends
13910907:r00kie said:My brother has the Honey Badgers, it's a really good one quiver ski. As in it's good enough at just about everything, but not outstanding at anything. If you already have a wide collection you won't have much of a use for them. If your cheap like me though and only can afford a single pair of skis I'd say it's a good bet.
13910880:midwesternmaniac said:I own both. Wets are stiffer than blends but no less buttery. I like the way wets flex better as the whole ski flexes evenly while the blends have a weird flex point on them and can over flex easily. The wets will flex as hard as you choose to flex them and stay strong underfoot, letting you control them. The blends though, they just flex to the moon and if you're not really ready or good at buttering it's kind of a bitch. Both good skis but if you're primarily in the park id say wets are alot better
13910923:Shobo said:Ya I’ve been reading stuff on them. I think I’m leaning torwards the wets
13910922:Shobo said:Ya there a good price. But hows yours holding up
13910924:midwesternmaniac said:If you're skiing primarily park they're a good bet. Not sure where you live either but if it gets icy ever the 89 underfoot will be alot easier to control than 100
13910926:r00kie said:My brother has had his for a year, probably put 10-12 days on em and they have no problems. He doesn't rails to hard yet tho so this might not be accurate for what you want to do.
13910929:Shobo said:Ya I mostly hit rails so it’s probaly better I just spend the money for something thats gonna hold up longer.
13910832:Young_patty said:Honestly just get wets, I don’t ride V’s and as much as I find the whole new wave thing obnoxious I’d have to recommend them to you. from what I’ve seen they are buttery, and durable as shit (friend only has a couple edge cracks after a heavy season in MN [like slamming your skis on metal hundreds of times a day] and they still have a lot of life left in them [ by the way he has a pair of 183 clouds for sale if anyone wants DM for details])
13910972:ParryWithAnA said:Go with the Honey Badgers or Blends. Most of the US team rides one of those.
All skis brake over time. We are putting hundreds, and maybe thousands of pounds of force on different parts of these skis every time we ski. Gapping to flats, over shooting jumps, and the 100 other things we do will put stress on any ski and over time they will brake. Dosen't matter what brand you have they will brake if you ride them hard. I see a lot of people on the tour and I have seen EVERY brand of skis falling apart.
Yes some skis are stronger and more durable but those also tend to have a higher price point. HB are well priced and I can get away with riding 1 pair the whole year. If you want to ride rails and mid sized jumps they are a sick ski. 9 out of 10 would bang.
The who owns who game has become irrelevant to me. Line has pushed skiing in the direction that I think is beneficial to everyone. If you like a smaller brand that awesome but know that they are part of the global economy. Part of your money from HG is going to some CEO of a shipping company, or a logging operation. Everything you buy is benefiting some larger company in some way. Some times its direct and other times it's a few degrees of separation. Nothing these days is as cut and dry as some people are making it.
In the end go with the type of ski that suits you and what brand you like/ identify with.
13910827:Young_patty said:Dude don’t waste your time honestly, if you’re an east coast rail rat they will not hold up well, better off just spending the extra money and getting a ski from:
Icelantic
HG
Moment
vishnu
HG
On3p
HG
or HG
that will actually last you a good amount of time and you won’t be giving your money to line who gives it to K2 who gives it to this rube:
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13910972:ParryWithAnA said:Go with the Honey Badgers or Blends. Most of the US team rides one of those.
All skis brake over time. We are putting hundreds, and maybe thousands of pounds of force on different parts of these skis every time we ski. Gapping to flats, over shooting jumps, and the 100 other things we do will put stress on any ski and over time they will brake. Dosen't matter what brand you have they will brake if you ride them hard. I see a lot of people on the tour and I have seen EVERY brand of skis falling apart.
Yes some skis are stronger and more durable but those also tend to have a higher price point. HB are well priced and I can get away with riding 1 pair the whole year. If you want to ride rails and mid sized jumps they are a sick ski. 9 out of 10 would bang.
The who owns who game has become irrelevant to me. Line has pushed skiing in the direction that I think is beneficial to everyone. If you like a smaller brand that awesome but know that they are part of the global economy. Part of your money from HG is going to some CEO of a shipping company, or a logging operation. Everything you buy is benefiting some larger company in some way. Some times its direct and other times it's a few degrees of separation. Nothing these days is as cut and dry as some people are making it.
In the end go with the type of ski that suits you and what brand you like/ identify with.
13911368:Park. said:I have skied all the park skis from these brands and I own a pair of HGs. They do all break. its in the nature of park skiing, but you absolutely get what you pay for. My current skis have held up to ~80 days of rail skiing These are the first skis that have lasted this long and they are in better shape than any other pair I've owned with half the days on them. This is really sick but they aren't cheap skis.
This is a great comment, but I ski with a few sponsored Line skiers and they all use Blends. They just don't hold up well enough to cost the amount that they do imo. If you are looking at blends, I would consider going for a ski from the other brands that I quoted. I've also been on the Blends and they are too soft to ski anything besides park enjoyably imo.
The HB is a much better cost for what you get. I see a fair amount of people on this ski and it holds up very comparably to Blends at a much cheaper price. It might be because Im around more blends, but I see more blends break than HB's as well.
just a some more input with a different perspective.
If you want to save money and not really worry about your skis I would probably go for HB's since they are so cheap.
13912054:Shobo said:What’s the flex like on the hb compared to blends?
13912067:Cade2 said:Actually skiable but still sketch
13912073:Shobo said:On which one
13912194:Cade2 said:On the HBs, your not gonna be able to ski fast with either tho
13912237:Shobo said:I’m not to worried ab going fast I mostly ski park
13912237:Shobo said:I’m not to worried ab going fast I mostly ski park
13912249:GKS said:fair enough. I have honey badgers and I love them, but they don't like hard charging or clumpy snow. if you chill in the park, they'll be fine. the quality is iffy on mine, and the topsheet seems flimsy. if you have the extra cash, I'd go vishnus.
13912342:Shobo said:Vishnus seem sick but there pricy. How’s the flex on the badgers
13912365:GKS said:^if I had the money, I'd still go Vishnu
13912445:Shobo said:Gonna try and pre order Wets prob
13910830:Shobo said:Ya I’ve seen a lot of stuff about durability so your probably right. What models would you suggest for something soft and playful kinda like badger but with better durability.
13912496:Greeney said:Magnuses
13912535:Shobo said:I heard there heavier??
13912536:Greeney said:A bit, but I have fks which add to the weight. I’m used to it now. Ski like 5 days on them and you won’t feel the weight
13912540:Shobo said:Ya thought ab getting them
13912553:Greeney said:Go for it, I love mine. It will be around the same price as bdogs or arvs but make sure you center mount for maximum butteryness
13912667:Shobo said:Ya. Trying to decide betweeen those and Wets
13912764:Line_Skis said:Welp, we're pretty partial to the Honey Badger, TW Pro, Blend, and Chronic...for obvious reasons.
Andy hit the nail on the head, and we definitely do our best to ensure that the skis out there are quality, fun, and provide the perfect platform for doing whatcha wanna do in the park.
1) TW Pro is going to be a high-performance park ski. Big jumps, skiing fast, etc.
2) Blend is the original flexy, bendy, buttery freak for the new wave. Plus, when it does snow, having something 100 under foot ain't exactly a bad thing.
3) Honey Badger is the no-nonsense, more "traditional" park ski. Super light, really snappy. Great for Midwest rope tow laps, EC ice rails, etc. Hard to beat at it's price point.
4) Chronic is an all-mountain, big jump, freestyle ski. Meant for those guys skiing super fast, hunting transitions all over the mountain and hyped on big jumps.
Sounds like you'd really be into the Blends and Honey Badgers if you're looking to ride park, butter around, and mainly slide rails. There's a level of control IN the butter on the blend that you can't get with any other ski. Butter zones are a very real thing -- often copied, never replicated.
ANNND re: Jarden. We're privately owned once again. But by supporting LINE, you're supporting skiers and skiing. People like Andy -- sup dude? -- people like Will Wesson, Sami Ortleib, The Peyben, and a whole host of people. We're not some faceless corporation (my name is Will, you can email me will@lineskis.com) in it solely to make a profit; we're here and doing what we do because we love skiing.
Anyway, good luck on the hunt for new skis. Hope ya choose ours, they're pretty friggin sweet!
--the "other Will" @ LINE Skis.
**This post was edited on Apr 5th 2018 at 7:01:49pm