Thoughts on adult male age 40 who goes to bed between 6-8 pm latest

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Pachankz

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I know this guy who on his days off , always day drinks , and is in bed by 6pm , sometimes he will make it to 8pm latest . Usually on these nights he sleeps until noon also , and basically sleeps until noon every day . Plus takes naps every day and hides at work to sleep , takes naps at work also . So nsers, tell me your thoughts on this guys habits and lifestyle. He seems to think he's fine .
 
Well as a chronic insomniac, nothing feels better than passing out that early from sheer intoxication.
 
13658117:Rparr said:
Well as a chronic insomniac, nothing feels better than passing out that early from sheer intoxication.
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He's the opposite of an insomniac, I think he has a sleeping disorder, seriously despite the day drinking, 6pm bedtime? Brutal.

On summer days he's in bed for the night before it's even dark outside.
 
13658120:Pachankz said:
He's the opposite of an insomniac, I think he has a sleeping disorder, seriously despite the day drinking, 6pm bedtime? Brutal.

On summer days he's in bed for the night before it's even dark outside.
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it sounds like this guy has it figured out
 
13658150:gapersarefriends said:
it sounds like this guy has it figured out
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To me it seems like he can't hang , has a sleep disorder, I just feel bad for his kids , absentee father who's always either drunk , high , sleeping or working.
 
13658166:Abu-Baghdadi said:
sounds like he may be depressed
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That's what I told him. I mean who sleeps that much . He will sleep til noon , and be taking a nap by 2.

Sleeps 15 hours at a time sometimes, smokes herb around the clock and drinks anytime he isn't working.
 
13658180:supermagician__ said:
all depends on how hard you work. is he physically okay?
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He is a maintenance man at a university, works 4pm til midnight. He works very little and spends most of his time hiding and sleeping at work, he has been on workers comp countless times and milks the system any chance he gets . He did start skiing again two years ago so I give him that much but every time he skis he's at the bar drinking. His son has multiple mental disorders too at age 10 has several diagnosis and has zero friends, kinda sad actually. I just feel he should sober up and get on a better sleep schedule and be a better example for his kids .
 
13658184:Pachankz said:
He is a maintenance man at a university, works 4pm til midnight. He works very little and spends most of his time hiding and sleeping at work, he has been on workers comp countless times and milks the system any chance he gets . He did start skiing again two years ago so I give him that much but every time he skis he's at the bar drinking. His son has multiple mental disorders too at age 10 has several diagnosis and has zero friends, kinda sad actually. I just feel he should sober up and get on a better sleep schedule and be a better example for his kids .
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He has stumbled on the goldmine of jobs. Govt/state jobs require little to no effort with zero supervision. If he had a job where he was forced to bust ass, maybe he'd get his life together. Or maybe he is just a giant POS that by some miracle got laid and had a kid he regrets.
 
13658186:CheeF said:
He has stumbled on the goldmine of jobs. Govt/state jobs require little to no effort with zero supervision. If he had a job where he was forced to bust ass, maybe he'd get his life together. Or maybe he is just a giant POS that by some miracle got laid and had a kid he regrets.
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Yeah his situation allows for him to continue being how he is , his kid is a mess . And I feel it's greatly due to the example he sets as a father .

His wife is codependent and doesn't work. So the family is entirely supported by him.
 
13658187:Pachankz said:
His wife is codependent and doesn't work. So the family is entirely supported by him.
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Some see this as traditional, others see it as a birthing machine that gets a free ride from the obligation of creating children. She is as part of the problem as he is. Not to sound judgmental, but I see this waaay to often.
 
Is his kid actually you op? If not why do you care what some middle age man is doing on his days off so much?
 
13658224:snowdon said:
Is his kid actually you op? If not why do you care what some middle age man is doing on his days off so much?
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Definitely not me , I have no issues admitting my downfalls . It's a close family friend and I just hate witnessing the impact it has on his kids .
 
13658224:snowdon said:
Is his kid actually you op? If not why do you care what some middle age man is doing on his days off so much?
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If your best friend was doing this and had a kid wouldn't you care? Look at it from another perspective before you trash someone else.
 
13658234:Ralph_Swaggum said:
this sounds like an alcoholic in some form or another tbh
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Let's put it this way, he passed out last night at 6 pm and it's now 11 am and he's still sleeping. Lol.
 
13658499:chicknfriedsteak said:
My ideal schedule when I have the time is to go to bed around 7ish and get up at 4. Different strokes for different folks.
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Yeah that's absurdly early but also up absurdly early too. At least it's not 15+ hours sleeping time . Dude slept 18 hours last night. I don't care how much I drank , 18 hours? How's that even possible.
 
Don't trust anyone to bed before midnight.

To be serious though, that is definitely not normal. I don't really know anyone who sleeps more than 8 hours a night, maybe 10 on the weekends. Your bud's got a problem, and should probably see a doctor or something.

And to you early sleepers early risers, I don't understand you. 7 pm in bed????
 
Smoking, drinking, sleeping....he probably has to keep himself distracted from how miserable his life is. you want him to be pro-active? he might just blow his brains out.

You feel bad for his kid? Go play with the kid. It could be a lot worse, daddy could have just dipped instead of forcing himself to slave away, his only escape in slumber. There is no light at the end of the tunnel for your friend. Maybe buy him some good weed.
 
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that guy needs some cocaine
 
13658686:elinde said:
Don't trust anyone to bed before midnight.

To be serious though, that is definitely not normal. I don't really know anyone who sleeps more than 8 hours a night, maybe 10 on the weekends. Your bud's got a problem, and should probably see a doctor or something.

And to you early sleepers early risers, I don't understand you. 7 pm in bed????
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For real. 7pm

Summer nights before it's even dark outside. Somethings just not normal about it.
 
13658796:hemlockjibber8 said:
how do you know if he is in bed or if he is awake. You creepin him?
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We talk through text quite often daily . If he doesn't answer for a while he's sleeping for sure. We talk about everything in this thread on a regular basis he knows he's got some serious issues but he refuses to seek any help. It was much worse several years ago when he was a crackhead thief , then went to rehab .
 
13658819:Static said:
Smoking, drinking, sleeping....he probably has to keep himself distracted from how miserable his life is. you want him to be pro-active? he might just blow his brains out.

You feel bad for his kid? Go play with the kid. It could be a lot worse, daddy could have just dipped instead of forcing himself to slave away, his only escape in slumber. There is no light at the end of the tunnel for your friend. Maybe buy him some good weed.
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Your probably right on the first half and play with the kid ? He's 10 , and in special schools and has been in the psych ward already. I'll pass thanks tho .
 
13658948:Fred_Bear said:
I go to bed at 8 most nights
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If you aren't married with kids and aren't an addict, you must lead a pretty boring life, no going out at night to socialize? Meet some girls perhaps?
 
13658949:Pachankz said:
If you aren't married with kids and aren't an addict, you must lead a pretty boring life, no going out at night to socialize? Meet some girls perhaps?
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I cant party every night of the week.... i have to get up, go to work in the morning and be productive.
 
13658230:russsavokskis said:
If your best friend was doing this and had a kid wouldn't you care? Look at it from another perspective before you trash someone else.
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If it was my best friend, sure. IF it was actually a real issue and not just some 14 year old deciding someone else has a problem. I don't give two shits what anyone I work with does on their time off and I wouldn't stick my nose into their personal business unless it actually had some effect on my work. Call CPS if youre so concerned about the kid I guess.
 
13659103:snowdon said:
If it was my best friend, sure. IF it was actually a real issue and not just some 14 year old deciding someone else has a problem. I don't give two shits what anyone I work with does on their time off and I wouldn't stick my nose into their personal business unless it actually had some effect on my work. Call CPS if youre so concerned about the kid I guess.
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You kinda sound like a c%nt . Noted .
 
13659123:Pachankz said:
You kinda sound like a c%nt . Noted .
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I believe you meant unnecessarily insensitive. That was not warranted.

Anyway, the dude needs help. Go do something about it. Have an intervention or something. Does he have other friends beside you that could help as well?
 
13659292:CheddarJack said:
I believe you meant unnecessarily insensitive. That was not warranted.

Anyway, the dude needs help. Go do something about it. Have an intervention or something. Does he have other friends beside you that could help as well?
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I've tried pretty hard, he refuses to see a therapist or get sober . I mean nothing wrong with smoking some herb and drinking some beers , but it clearly is an issue with him. He's never, not once taken a break from weed in 24 years. He tried quitting once and turned into the nastiest asshole and he has become really antisocial over the years. I think most of his friends have given up on him .

He's also in major denial . At times he admits he's an alcoholic and his family walks on eggshells around his exsploive anger , than other times he's in full denial about it. Some people you just can't get through to . He needs to hit a rock bottom of sorts before he'll ever do anything about it. Just a stubborn man.
 
13659306:Pachankz said:
I've tried pretty hard, he refuses to see a therapist or get sober . I mean nothing wrong with smoking some herb and drinking some beers , but it clearly is an issue with him. He's never, not once taken a break from weed in 24 years. He tried quitting once and turned into the nastiest asshole and he has become really antisocial over the years. I think most of his friends have given up on him .

He's also in major denial . At times he admits he's an alcoholic and his family walks on eggshells around his exsploive anger , than other times he's in full denial about it. Some people you just can't get through to . He needs to hit a rock bottom of sorts before he'll ever do anything about it. Just a stubborn man.
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Quitting cold turkey from any addiction will most likely turn you into an asshole. Everyone's just gunna have to deal with it for a couple weeks once he is able to quit. Smoking and drinking, especially at the level he does, is incredibly unhealthy for someone who's depressed (let alone an otherwise healthy person), which it definitely sounds like he is.
 
13659316:CheddarJack said:
Quitting cold turkey from any addiction will most likely turn you into an asshole. Everyone's just gunna have to deal with it for a couple weeks once he is able to quit. Smoking and drinking, especially at the level he does, is incredibly unhealthy for someone who's depressed (let alone an otherwise healthy person), which it definitely sounds like he is.
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Oh I know first hand. I basically was him for many years in the smoking/ drinking sense but got completely sober . I never slept like that but have dealt with some depression too , what I've learned is you need the self awareness and self acceptance to even stand a chance at sobriety. It's not easy. I fell down and got back up until I got in the clear zone and I'm trying to positively influence him but it's just not sinking in. I don't constantly bug him about it but more so try to explain how much better life is when your not constantly sick and tired feeling. It just doesn't seem to register . I truly think he needs to hit some form of crisis or rock bottom or he'll string along like this forever. Is what it is.
 
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