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Someone made a thread in it asking when time could have begun or if we'll ever have any idea about when it did? thought it should be in nsg. Any ideas?

And if any of you want an invite to the cult, just ask. Most of the stuff in there is a lot like this.
 
Time never existed, it's just made up in our minds. Existence exists, but time is just a way to organize existence...It's hard to explain.
 
I think the question is more like when did existence begin. or at least I hope, because if you are really askin when time began you are a retard. That's like asking when did english begin?... when we friggin made it up.
 
I view this question as "When time could have begun"

Time begain when the first thing ever happend that is know of, for me it is the big bang (if it's real) cause there nothing before that. Even tho no humans were around at this time, to make the idea of keeping time up, the big bang (if it's real) did happen in a time period, and would be the first time period.
 
It's very hard to explain the whole concept of time but I always end up coming back to the idea that time is relative. If we didn't create seconds, minutes, hours, days and years time would only be as fast or as slow as we feel it is. Slow days wouldn't be measured by how slow you think the seconds on your watch are or how quickly your essay deadline came up.

Kinda hard to explain but I love thinking about it.
 
Thinking about time and looking at the stars at night are both the most intriguing things in life. crazy shit
 
we only know time is there when we can see evidence of it. when there is no existence there is no time because there is nothing to experience time. i doubt that made sense
 
I think this question needs to be broken apart into two - When did universal time start (time that the universe and all of its governing laws experience) and when you're time starts (psychological time, like consciousness, memory that you experience).
 
I've always wondered how mankind could invent time? Mankind just invented means and units to measure time, which would support krashed idea of time being relative...
 
this cult sounds like a bunch of you are sitting in a circle smoking and asking really deep questions.

much like in that 70s show in eric foremans basement.
 
this is quite the question. a theory in physics, relating to the ever popular "big bang", is the "big crunch" theory.  basically, the big bang happened, all of the matter contained in that microscopic incredibly dense particle exploded and began moving in all different directions, thus creating the universe as we know it. the "big crunch" theory says that when all of the matter in the universe becomes too spread out, it will all fall back into the center of the universe, using so much force that all of the matter in the universe will become an incredibly dense microscopic particle. later, this particle will explode (big bang) and even later, it will form again (big crunch). if this theory is true, there has been an infinite number of universes created, meaning the earth has been made before (if the universe was created infiniti times, the solar system must have been created exactly infiniti times as well). and against all of the incredible odds (because this has happened an infinite number of times), we have all had this conversation in the past. when did time start? my answer is, time starts whenever the universe is first created, so in about 24 billion years time will start for the next universe. of course, this is only a theory, and has been the subject of debate for quite some time.

 
relativity predicts our own familiar universe and its constituent components of "time" and "space" sprung from a singularity, which would form a discontinuity beyond which no information could travel because every parameter blows up to infinity there (since the universe was a single point).

It's not really the "beginning of time"... it's much more complicated than that, but I'd have to define it as being where "time started", yes.

Nobody really knows what happened, though.

And who knows how we manage to perceive time in the way we do...
 
well i somewhat disagreee, the philosopher take a different meaning of the question than the physicists, there pretty much answering two different quetions. One more like when did time start so exist, and one more towars when did time become relevant to us.
 
man its so mind-boggling thinking about space and how enormous it is. i dont know i cant bring myself to believe that some "bang" made the universe. like something had to contain that microscopic piece of matter...what else could contain it other than space? how did space become...i think that it was just always there. but does the universe ever end or does it continue for an infinite length and has no boundary?
 
time is linear, thin of it as an x and y graph, and the axis is our current place in time, however unlike other stationary graphs, the axis is moving at a constant rate along the line, and the line is infinite in the direction of the past and the direction of the future. I dont believe that time is made up by humans, time is like a measurement, lets say like length. length exists, however all units for it like inches and centimeters are made by people to measure it. similarly, time exists, but units such as seconds and years are units made by people to measure time, and all of our measurements are based on the amount of time it takes earth to travel around the sun. Although venus would travel around the sun in a different amount of time, it is still advancing in time at the same rate
 
by the way, could I please have an invite to this thinkers cult, because while I just sit in class doing nothing I come up with some really deep questions that belong on that forum
 
first off, if the universe had a boundary, what would it be made of, and what would be on the other side? space is nothing, so space has always been, because if you ask when did space begin, well if there was an answer to that, well, what was before space then? well that would be nothing, so the only thing that could possibly precede space is space. really paradoxal
 
that was the exact point i was trying to make. one side is saying that time was created by man as a way to cope with his environment, the other is trying to determine time by its point of creation. essentially two different questions depending on the way you look at it.

and since the question can be interpreted in several different ways there is most likely no definitive answer.
 
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