This picture puts things into perspective

Even if somebody else did find us, how could they contact us. As far as I know, we can't contact somebody that's lightyears away. Even if we sent radio signals or something, they probably won't understand them. We can't just sit there and shine a light at them either.

And whoever else said something about them not breathing air or whatever, I agree. What if their planet's atmosphere is poison gas to us, but they breathe it fine, and oxygen was bad for them. They would say our planet is incapable of supporting life. Obviously, if a planet has something poison to us, we call it incapable of supporting life, but it's really only incapable of supporting an organism from earth.
 
ahhh no need to apologize you were right, I was just poking fun at myself haha. some people on this site are way to serious all the time.
 
imagine if they had this technology a few years the big bang. couldnt they technically watch it happen?
 
Im feeling like this picture changed me.If we are so small, then why should I value my life as much as I do. Whatever. Im a speck of fucking dust. So why shouldnt I go out and do everything? My life wouldnt be any skin off the universe's bones, so why NOT go out, huck huge flips, do whatever. And why worry about little altercations with people. This shit is so minuscule that it doesnt matter.
Then again, if you look at it from the size of atoms, its the polar opposite persepective
 
wow +k to you I have honestly had the same thought and got the exact same reaction, I just gave up but really I think this could be true. what if our entire universe is in side some other being?
 
shit

aliens better find us cause i wouldn't want our planet going through so much shit to find other living things
 
i always thought this is crazy...if you shot off a rocket that could travel the speed of light into space would it just keep going on forever? i mean eventually it has to hit something, right?
 
we will be able to decide our own fate as soon as we have the ability to rebuild our species even if the earth is demolished to make way for an pangalactic beltway
 
I believe there are far more serious problems in our own planet to be wondering about life on others ATM. Think about it...if global warming destroys our planet, then wondering about other life forms wont matter...because we will be gone.
 
how can we tell if its so and so light years away, time is just a thought, and what is a thought nothing absolutely nothing, time was a thing made up by humans to assist life. so what if its just one big giant huge mind thats perceiving everything that we are thinking seeing doing living breathing......

holy fuck
 
i love shit like this. you know the earth standing on the surface of that star would look the same as a skyscraper standing on earth sizewise?
 
Yes thank you haha! This is the point i was about to make. We're looking so far away that we're actually looking into the past. The human race is only a few thousand years old right? And earth is several billion years old, so there's no reason to think that there might not be hundreds of millions of different species all in some stage of evolution that will develop into sentient beings capable of space travel, even if it won't be for hundreds of millions more years.
 
Ok so assuming the universe is infinite. Because if there was a wall there would have to be something beyond it. then that means anything we think of exists somewhere out there. Because there is infinite possibility. so then that means somewhere out there there is another me with all the answers? mindfuck
 
so your saying that our whole universe could just be in a mouses brain, and that mouse has a universe thats just as big type of thing?
 
hahah i bet

this shits hard to wrap my mind around... i always think about this on my own... fucking crazy... its even better when you talk to your buddys about it. especially when you see them trying to think about it
 
um dude....no.
it would be about the size of....something very small compared to it. did you see how small the sun was compared to it?
 
That's incredible. I just spent like 2 hours looking at those images and others just thinking about it. Whole new perspective.

Maybe George Lucas is an alien and Star Wars was just a life experience Ha Ha!!
 
Did you know that a marble is about half the size between the earth an an atom? Think about that shit.

And there were theories about atomic structure that it resembled the solar system with the sun being the proton and the planets being electrons but this is not the case.

There is a law of scale and many other factors that have ruled out this possibility. So the idea that each cell or atom contains a universe, though elegant, is probably incorrect.

There have also been studies done, based on what we know about life, that have predicted how many advanced civilizations there are in the universe and it is very small percentage of planets. Many criteria must be met, must have water, must be correct distance from sun, must be shielded by large near by planets, must be correct spot in the universe, must have circular orbit as opposed to elliptical orbit. The list goes on and turns out our solar system and planet combo is extremely rare in the universe. That being said the shear size of the universe yields the statistical possibility that there must be intelligent life out there. This I can say for sure beyond a statistical doubt. However again remember that out of our planets 6 billion year we have been here for 1 million if you are extremely generous on what you call intelligent life. That is like 4 days of your life if you live to be 80 years old. All of human evolution, wars, poems, everything taking place in 2 days of your life.

So There is intelligent life out there but even if there is the universe is so vast, and on such a large time scale that the possibility of a class 3 civilization, if they even give a shit about us, coming into contact with us, when we exist, for the 2 days of life, out on the edge of the universe, with nothing to offer... That's what makes me sad. If that makes any sense...

So yes, we are small, insignificant, lack the ability to comprehend our size, and even by our own planets standards we are pretty unsuccessful. But what are you going to do, tomorrow you will wake up, and once again your world will revolve around you.
 
Thats just mind-blowing. Without a doubt, there has got to be more life form. There is no way that with all of those galaxies that we just so happened to get lucky and have life form
 
try and imagine this: think of the universe itself. it has no ending. there are no walls that stop the universe. it goes on forever and ever and ever and ever. we see the world around us as shapes but in reality, the blackness we see, its never ending. we only see stuff that are 13 billion light years away. but also realize that from that 13 billion light years away, there is another 13 billion, and another 13. its hard to wrap your mind around but its crazy
 
someone correct me if i'm wrong, but current theories say that there is an end to the universe, meaning no matter exists beyond its boundaries. however, it is said that the universe is expanding into the space outside of it, so i wouldn't say that there's a wall; it's just empty and at absolute 0 kelvin beyond the boundaries of the universe. edwin hubble and other scientists have come up with explanations of cosmological red shift that describe mathematically the drifting apart of galaxies and the expansion of the universe, and it's over my head but has to do with frequencie's of color as well.
 
correctionwe wouldnt know for at least another 13 billion years, assuming they are trying to contact us and somehow can communicate with us at the speed of life
 
although the speed of life is pretty fast, I think you are referring to the speed of light.

And we would have to wait 13 billion years for a response from someone 13 billion light years away, there are much closer planets than that.
 
yes, however, think of that space at 0k, just think of it. where are its boundries. that what im getting to. even when you get past the universe that is able to maintain live and matter, there still is space, that doesnt have matter, but really does. the molecular theory is something really hard to wrap your mind around. Space for a fact is infinite. Matter may not be, but space is. Try thinking of it this way:

think of a call of duty map(if you ever played it). when you can zoom out..aka free cam mode in multiplayer, you see a box. Let that box represent the entire universe(if indeed we are believing that the universe has boundaries). Look at the space around that box....do we really consider that nothing? or do we still consider that space. If in fact that that space were actually at 0k, where no matter can exist, it still has "matter" because its space. that may sound confusing but just try and think about it.
 
^^ that last line was pretty epic. +k for that

I agree we are fairly insignificant as we sit now. The main problem with us is that we are still toiling around in vehicles that use fermented organic vegetation. We are no where near the ability to convert mass to raw energy such as using the moons orbital momentum to pull a coiled cable through the sphere of magnetic waves surrounding our planet. Not only this but we use a tiny fraction of the solar energy available to our planet.

Couple this with the fact that 95% of our worlds population doesn't even realize that scientists have nigh on completely nailed down the human genome. This is not to mention that within the next couple of decades, we will be opportunistically capable of living a life of perpetual health and vitality. The sad fact is that science is advancing at an increasing rate and only those of us with the foresight to sift through popular media's lackluster coverage of this asymptotic technological rise will be able to get on the bus.

Another thing I believe is that the US will be divorced from these breakthroughs should its populace continue to embrace parasitic drains on society such as war and corporate media. We are approaching a massive technological restructuring and this will become clear to all when the current economic model is unable to adapt to the increasing energy demand.

A good way for people to start making a change for the better is first, realizing that the political world need not spin as it always has. People should be able to embrace transhuman culture and tradionalists should be able to adopt technological breakthroughs as well as carry out a finite existence. Every sentient intelligence should be able to make this choice and work towards the betterment of all society. ethical reforms and statutes should be made and both economical and political models should be redesigned dynamically. These listed tasks would be a good place for human kind to start. The roiled politcal arena may not allow it at present but this is what people must push towards.
 
haha liked the video game analogy.

Actually a lot of astrophysicists think that the universe is a bubble and slightly curved.

Its like being a 2d creature on a mobius strip. you walk in a perfectly straight line but eventually you get back to where you started. So the universe has no boundaries which is impossible for our mind to comprehend because like the 2d creature time is linear in our minds. We lack the ability to see the 4th dimension, time, as a curvy bending plane.
 
this is my thread because everything about this fascinates me. we try and think of the speed of light. the speed of light is about 671 million miles per hour. In that case.....by the time the light from the sun to reach us is about 8 minutes. So when we see the sunrise, we are actually seeing the sun, in the spot it was 8 minutes than it actually is in the moment. so now...when you looked at the pic, you saw how far away the things are...so now when you see how actually far these "things" are from us, its easy to put it perspectively, but not mentally, mathematically, scientifically.
 
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