This picture puts things into perspective

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I love things like this. Makes you wonder how people have the audacity to say there isn't life out there.
 
it makes me want to punch the pope, why would some advanced form of life want to come to earth when we are such assholes and we act so selfishly.
 
holy shit, VY Canis Majoris is immense.

i feel so insignificant right now, the size of that thing is just unthinkable, i'm trying to imagine looking at it, it would fill our sky if i was our sun, jeez.
 
i feel like nothing now. Its so hard to even try and think about space and shit. people say that the universe is grwoing every day. but think about this, what is the universe going into, if it is getting bigger that means that there is an end to it and at the end of the universe is connected to something else. It jsut hurts my head to even try and think about what i just said.
 
Here's the wiki link. It says it takes "7,000,000,000,000,000 (7 quadrillion) Earths to fill the volume of VY Canis Majoris." If it was in the spot of our sun, or anywhere near us, it would consume us.

It's too big, America should claim it as ours. AMERICA!
 
well...

the discovery of more and more galaxies and the potential size of "space" out there is immense, and although the possibility of other life forms is possible, humans are evenidently some of the most technologically advanced, if others even do exist.

if we can see 13 billion light years away and make slight calculations as to how many galaxies exist in a certain space, if other forms of life do exist, then surely our technology and theirs would have co-mingled by now, exspecially if their technology is far superior to ours.

however as of right now for humans, our only means of entering space is via rocket ship and they are certainly not capable of leaving our galaxy. so does this mean the only real way humans will ever know if other societies exist is to make a rocket capable of travelling billion of light years, or perhaps a teleportation portal of sorts? telescopes, cameras and spacestations is where earth really learns about distant galaxies and i just pernsonally feel if there was something else out there either us, or them, would have noticed someone taking your picture by now.

we have concluded that no other beings exist in our galaxy from the simple fact that no other planet or star has the enviroment to harness "life". but what is the meaning of life? the meaning of life is a human definition. is there a alternative form of life that begs to differ, would they have hearts or need oxygen to breath?

who knows?

maybe its because i think like a human, but i certainly think earth as a whole is making the most substantial effort to discover other civilizations. no one else has discovered us. maybe becuase they cant, or maybe cause were alone.

 
There are so many planets there's a possibility that an exact replication of Earth exists, with the exact same history, people, and places.
 
Yes we are seeing 13 billion light years away but we are also looking into the past... 800 million years into the past. If there are other lifeforms I doubt that their technology was as advanced as ours is right now 800 million years ago. So if in that part of the universe there is a civilization as advanced as ours right now we would not know for another 800 million years.
 
we are so so so dead if someone 30 billion light years in the future comes to enslave/ butt rape us and make our world economy and military look like childs toys
 
Yeah I saw on history that there are actually clouds made of liquid so close to being beer, only it has shit like ammonia in it. This also made me feel weird like whenever you truly think of how long forever is...
 
think about how many humans/aliens are out there thinking the same thing. sucks cause i doubt well meet any in our lifetime
 
exactly what i was going to say, if they had a telescope and were looking at us they would see what was going down 800 million years ago. so i guess they would know about dinosaurs?
 
I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure they would be seeing what was happening 12-13 billion years ago. Because the pictures we're seeing now are from when the universe is 800 million years old, not 800 million years ago.
 
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." - Calvin and Hobbes
 
Sending humans into space is completely rediculous. We simply aren't built for it(yet?) and don't have the ability to harvest and consume enough energy to master interstellar space travel(read: we are a type 0 civilization). The ability to explore our own galaxy and perhaps others in the near future(during the next millennia), perhaps lies in von neumann probes(google it). This form of exploration would be achievable at a much lower cost and with far less risk.

With humans staying at home(at least within our own solar system), we would have ample time to develope and convert our entire solar system into energy as well as master the evolutionary manipulation of our current meat bodies(read: fountain of youth). Then, or perhaps in parallel, we will figure out a way to upload our consciousness(neural state vector) to a less squishy medium than the human brain such as quantum memory diamond. This means we will effectively live in a computer, and at that point the only connection we will have to our progenitors, is what we will instantiate in this virtual environment to in order to maintain a stable grip on the outside reality.

The reason I believe this to be a worthy trajectory for science to take is that once von neuman probes have mapped the surrounding galaxies extensively enough, they may have the ability to set up "routers" with data transfer operating via quantum entanglement. At this point, data, such as an active human neural state vector, could be passed through the router, emerging at a foreign locale(in another galaxy) to be reinstantiated in a meatbody(or a mechanical one) on an inhabitable planet.

if interested, read:

The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene

Before the Beginning by Martin Rees

Physics of the impossible by Michio Kaku

A Brief History of time by Steven Hawking

for some good hard sci-fi read charles stross

+k?
 
if this isn't new to most of you then it just proves how self centered you are. what did you think it just stopped after pluto? since this does put things into perspective i can say fuck all of you, and it doesn't matter in the slightest. look at it that way. if u murder one person what does it matter? not a whole lot prolly
 
Thinking about things like this usually ends up with me staying up all night contemplating all kinds of things...
 
no. we are looking 13 billion years into the past. reread it. it says according to the big bang theory, that it would have been when the universe was 800 billion years old.
 
maybe the universe is just a neuron? for example, imagine zooming way in to a neuron in your body and seeing it become it's own separate universe. each neuron is a different universe. now zoom way out and now we look at our universe as a neuron in a bigger, more complex body than our own. now multiply this phenomenon by every other human. we each contain these universes encapsulated by each atom and each cell. and then add all the rest of the organisms that exist, including bacterium. now at that scale, try to fathom what could exist within each particle of matter in the world, or in our universe, taking into consideration what may be added by the immensely probable existence of other life-supporting planets from the many galaxies that exist. then zoom to a perspective that shows all the other universes acting as neurons in a greater body.......then we must figure out what exists within abiotic matter.
 
yeah I realize that I made a huge mistake in the time line haha.. obviously my reading/mathematical skills are not up to par. I fail.
 
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