This one hits hard

nah that’s not true. look at any sport or discipline of any kind that has being around for decades or even centuries and you can see that there are always new legends and people who push the sport to where no one thought it could go.
 
i mean he's kind of right. there are tons and tons of comp kids that can trip 18 and shit, skiing can't keep progressing, humans are going to reach a limit and eventually all these top players will just be at the same level, and more will join them, and im sure as hell not learning every one of their names.
 
14571889:verynormalguy said:
Why is it that online paranoid schizophrenics can never figure out where capital letters are supposed to go
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It's probably an elaborate code revealing some information about a conspiracy theory.
 
14571865:little1337 said:
"Too many amazing skiers now"

I can't think of any scenario where this is a bad thing
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Any scenario where one is too concerned with making their way up the ladder instead of just doing it for fun. I swear so many people ski just to put their name up on a pedestal, they take the shit too seriously.
 
There's always been a million good skiers. The difference is social media. I love all the skiers listed - THall, Henrik, Walnuts, etc. but they were the simply the last of the new school that were headliners before easy mass exposure.

Before them was Candide, JP Auclair, Mike Douglas, Glen Plake... It was just far harder to get exposure. Hell, Klaus Obermeyer is considered the OG freestyler. He was just doing backflips and daffys.

I think in the future we'll see more and more of these guys in search of being the "most complete" skier. That's what I'm personally striving for at least. How cool would that comp be? Could you imagine a contest that was judged on a complete season's body of work? I'm talking Big Mountain + Park + Pipe + Racing + Film Segment + whatever else, all scored in aggregate? Would be a fun season to follow...
 
14571905:SteezyYeeter said:
i mean he's kind of right. there are tons and tons of comp kids that can trip 18 and shit, skiing can't keep progressing, humans are going to reach a limit and eventually all these top players will just be at the same level, and more will join them, and im sure as hell not learning every one of their names.
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I think you’re taking too narrow of a view of what progression is. Spinning more is a part of it, but so is style, spot selection, terrain, and everything else that makes skiing interesting to watch. Remember, dudes were doing quads in aerials in the 80s. But freestyle skiing has progressed massively since then
 
14572005:hi_vis360 said:
I think you’re taking too narrow of a view of what progression is. Spinning more is a part of it, but so is style, spot selection, terrain, and everything else that makes skiing interesting to watch. Remember, dudes were doing quads in aerials in the 80s. But freestyle skiing has progressed massively since then
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Good point. I guess with the current industry trend of spin to win, there isn't all that much room left. hopefully there will be a change in direction that leans more towards style.
 
‘freestyle skiing is still cool. but it has matured now.’ wish you would buddy lol

i hate to agree with ana on anything just cuz he handles things like a fuckin idiot (although i have a soft spot for mental illness and i do think the homie has a personality disorder) but there is some validity to his argument. j skis is a prime example of how marketing has shifted. ‘won hit wonders’ i think they were called. just get some bangers from the gram for free or next to nothing. its so much easier than placing a name of someone on your skis for a promodel. you’re betting on them to represent you company accurately and that goes beyond competitions and winning x games. they are betting on your personal life as well. so brands arent spending money on building someone up to the quote “legendary” status like before.

i dont think ‘the secret’ is out anymore than it was when blizzard of oz came out. i think people were throwing down super hard back in those days too. the difference is content is so easy to make these days and has allowed for the shift in marketing. you get a much greater ROI off the trends and quick clips these days. not a bad thing. just different.
 
14571905:SteezyYeeter said:
i mean he's kind of right. there are tons and tons of comp kids that can trip 18 and shit, skiing can't keep progressing, humans are going to reach a limit and eventually all these top players will just be at the same level, and more will join them, and im sure as hell not learning every one of their names.
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I’m waiting for henny to nosebutter trip off a cliff. I dapped him up in my dream after he did it
 
I am 26 and definitely still think this is a wack old head take. Park skiing is big but not that big, and street skiing is still very small. If you ask the average American who Tony Hawk or Shaun White is they probably know, but go outside of the ski world and ask who Tanner Hall or Tom Wallisch is, they probably do not know.
 
I think you Might be onto something, Good point. Any ideas You might have on what he might be trying to say to everyone??

14571907:Wrist said:
It's probably an elaborate code revealing some information about a conspiracy theory.
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topic:mattpaul611 said:
Fuck man…..
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Bro is mad that no one is only do 720s, wearing quad xl tall t and skull candy headphones anymore. Old head take

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“The era of just good skiing is here”

Literally next sentence

”Theres too many amazing skiers”
 
14572170:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
you're in your 30's, you're the same age group if not older than Ankilla

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If anything being the same age makes the callout more valid
 
14572228:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
I used to think so but there's hundreds of them in the forums on a daily basis. At least during the ski season
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Yeah in 2004 using forums was cool, people under 18 don't even know what a website is, let alone a forum.
 
I hereby declare that the only legitimate recognized form of "core" skiing is the way I do it!

You must be an asian woman wearing a dress and glitter makeup, have no poles, and spinning and dancing down the slope like an ice skate dancer.

Anyone else is a WHACK ASS POSER that needs to GTFO of my sport!
 
14572217:BLandz said:
“The era of just good skiing is here”

Literally next sentence

”Theres too many amazing skiers”
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if you don't get what he's saying than you must be trying not to. you can not agree but to not understand what his opinion is, is just actively not wanting to (or being incredibly stupid).
 
14572254:SteezyYeeter said:
if you don't get what he's saying than you must be trying not to. you can not agree but to not understand what his opinion is, is just actively not wanting to (or being incredibly stupid).
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I gotta be honest man, I have no fucking idea what hes talking about you’re going to have to elaborate for me
 
14572232:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
It makes it ironic
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You can be an old head at any age. Am I not allowed to criticize those who have an overly backward looking perspective on skiing just because I’m 30? I think we are in a great era of skiing right now, and I have loved and appreciated every era of skiing as they have come and gone. The people who endlessly worship a certain bygone era and condemn the current scene are “old heads.”
 
14572261:BLandz said:
I gotta be honest man, I have no fucking idea what hes talking about you’re going to have to elaborate for me
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if only one person could backflip, that person is amazing and one of a kind.

if a billion people could backflip, then it is not impressive.

that's extreme, but still what he's saying, which is that it takes much more than it used to stand out, in the pro world trip 18s don't mean anything anymore, what was once considered 'legendary' is now 'just good'. skiers can be objectively amazing, but relative to others, they can be average at the same time. skiers used to be objectively and relatively amazing, now they are objectively amazing and yet relatively mid.

i'm just explaining what he's saying, and it's really not that complicated.

y'all are hating on him for no reason he's just making an observation, and you guys are like getting mad at him about it and just attacking him, honestly it's sad how obsessed you guys are with him.
 
14572045:partyandBS said:
‘freestyle skiing is still cool. but it has matured now.’ wish you would buddy lol

i hate to agree with ana on anything just cuz he handles things like a fuckin idiot (although i have a soft spot for mental illness and i do think the homie has a personality disorder) but there is some validity to his argument. j skis is a prime example of how marketing has shifted. ‘won hit wonders’ i think they were called. just get some bangers from the gram for free or next to nothing. its so much easier than placing a name of someone on your skis for a promodel. you’re betting on them to represent you company accurately and that goes beyond competitions and winning x games. they are betting on your personal life as well. so brands arent spending money on building someone up to the quote “legendary” status like before.
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This is a pretty abysmal example lol. J skis has multiple pro models rn (Vinny Cash and Justin Kennedy) and has been the presenting sponsor on multiple full length cuts dog. This is a bad example lol
 
14572266:SteezyYeeter said:
if only one person could backflip, that person is amazing and one of a kind.

if a billion people could backflip, then it is not impressive.

that's extreme, but still what he's saying, which is that it takes much more than it used to stand out, in the pro world trip 18s don't mean anything anymore, what was once considered 'legendary' is now 'just good'. skiers can be objectively amazing, but relative to others, they can be average at the same time. skiers used to be objectively and relatively amazing, now they are objectively amazing and yet relatively mid.

i'm just explaining what he's saying, and it's really not that complicated.

y'all are hating on him for no reason he's just making an observation, and you guys are like getting mad at him about it and just attacking him, honestly it's sad how obsessed you guys are with him.
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Ya I don’t agree with that statement at all. If a “legendary” skier is defined as someone who dominates their subcategory of skiing then theres literally only like 4 legends every 10 years anyways. Phil dominated street forever, Henrik and TWall dominated x games forever, candide dominated BC forever, and even with that being said they didn’t even win every comp. I would actually argue the opposite, that theres going to be more legends than ever. Like ya theres more dudes than can trip 18 now but thats the exact same thing as more people being able to backflip nowadays. Its not this dramatic thing like hes making it out to be.
 
Also theres a difference between attacking the dude and just simply not agreeing. I fw ankilla I just think he posted an impulsive IG story lol. If you wonder why theres people that are ankilla critics its because he brings it on himself lol. I promise you Chris will be fine, he is just an AI hot take generator, he knows that people are going to disagree with him
 
14572277:BLandz said:
Ya I don’t agree with that statement at all. If a “legendary” skier is defined as someone who dominates their subcategory of skiing then theres literally only like 4 legends every 10 years anyways. Phil dominated street forever, Henrik and TWall dominated x games forever, candide dominated BC forever, and even with that being said they didn’t even win every comp. I would actually argue the opposite, that theres going to be more legends than ever. Like ya theres more dudes than can trip 18 now but thats the exact same thing as more people being able to backflip nowadays. Its not this dramatic thing like hes making it out to be.
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yeah i don't have a stake in it really, i was just trying to translate he was saying because apparently people don't understand, don't know why im getting downvoted.

14572278:BLandz said:
Also theres a difference between attacking the dude and just simply not agreeing. I fw ankilla I just think he posted an impulsive IG story lol. If you wonder why theres people that are ankilla critics its because he brings it on himself lol. I promise you Chris will be fine, he is just an AI hot take generator, he knows that people are going to disagree with him
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yeah i was talking about other people not specifically you. it's not a big deal just funny how some people just clown on him 24/7 for, in some cases, no reason really.
 
14572263:hi_vis360 said:
You can be an old head at any age. Am I not allowed to criticize those who have an overly backward looking perspective on skiing just because I’m 30? I think we are in a great era of skiing right now, and I have loved and appreciated every era of skiing as they have come and gone. The people who endlessly worship a certain bygone era and condemn the current scene are “old heads.”
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Nice straw man argument. I think you're reading too much into my comment lol
 
14572275:Farmville420 said:
This is a pretty abysmal example lol. J skis has multiple pro models rn (Vinny Cash and Justin Kennedy) and has been the presenting sponsor on multiple full length cuts dog. This is a bad example lol
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naw this backs my point up i think. no ski model is for a specific skier at j skis. those guys got a ski graphic for a season. sponsoring film projects is sick but again not specific to people. the trend is light commitment for a few projects. its not like the e dollo model thats a flagship ski year after year with input from henrik. j skis supports amazing skiers but they aren’t creating “legends”
 
14572299:partyandBS said:
naw this backs my point up i think. no ski model is for a specific skier at j skis. those guys got a ski graphic for a season. sponsoring film projects is sick but again not specific to people. the trend is light commitment for a few projects. its not like the e dollo model thats a flagship ski year after year with input from henrik. j skis supports amazing skiers but they aren’t creating “legends”
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Zahner had it for 3 years straight, and passed it on when he quit street. It's also insanely whack that armada refuses to branch out with pro models, they have so many talented and deserving dudes that SHOULD have a pro model. You can disagree and think that sticking with their guys is cool, but IMO that's lame as fuck because the sport is evolving and so should the people getting royalty checks from skis. ON3P been rotating pro models forever as well and they are the sickest company out rn. You can't tell me it's cool that dollo has had a pro model for like 10 years while people like dani, seamo, kuura, Downey, and more can't even have a chance at one?
 
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