The warranty debate

Kev

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Please read the WHOLE thing, if you wish to comment. Thanks.

To address what a WARRENTY means

I am sick and tired of see poor useless souls on ns bust there brain about warranty this warranty that, and how can you have a 3 year warranty

Let’s start with what is the true definition of a warranty: An assurance by the seller of property that the goods or property are as represented or will be as promised. A guarantee given to the purchaser by a company stating that a product is reliable and free from known defects and the seller will, without charge, repair or replace defective parts within a given time limit and under certain conditions.

NO SKI COMPANY IN THE INDUSTRY WILL WARRENTY WEAR AND TEAR.

I.e. Abuse do to rails/concrete what ever the hell your doing to your skis, regular abuse etc.

By offering a 3 year warranty it does not mean that the ski will be indestructible for 3 years and then fall apart. It means that a company has faith in there product, and that they are willing to stand behind it 100%, which is important as a new company.

Well what does this mean exactly do you ask? It means (especially rider owned companies) are willing to GO OUT OF THERE WAY to help you, if you have a problem with your skis. It doesn’t mean if you beat the shit out of your ski for two years, you can get a new pair. If it breaks in half, the core snaps, the edge rips out the length of the ski. Then hell ya there warranty it. Not hey my top sheet has huge chucks out of it, all my edges are cracked and worn done to nothing, my base as gauges in it, can I have some new skis please? NO if you think that, ya I’ll say it you’re fucking dumb. And if you think ski companies should do that then start out your own ski company and offer that type of warranty and stop complaining.

Well then you ask, why offer 3 years when everyone else is offering 2?

This doesn’t necessarily mean that a company that offers a 3 year warranty is better than a company that offers 2. What it means that is that they trust there skis, and has confidence that they will last. (Which is important for a new company cause there not tested and true yet to the everyday user, only to a select few that have ridden them)

Well if there not going to warranty wear and tear why offer 2-3 years? cause if you ride hard… ya my skis will be in shit shape in three years. It means for example after for riding for two years the glue in the ski isn’t going to degrade into a fine powder, and the ski will denigrate into nothing. It means after 3 years of riding your ski will be in one solid state structurally. Yes the core might be shot, your edges will be almost gone it’ll be all scratched up, dents maybe some base scrapes. But it will still be in one piece and you will be able to turn down the hill with it.

These rider owned companies are going to stand behind there product wither it be a 2 or 3 year warranty and the majority and going to GO OUT OF THERE WAY to help you if you have a warranty issue you would like to addresses with them. This is MY perception of what a warranty is and I believe I am correct and pretty much anyone in the industry will agree with me. If you don’t, then don’t. I hope this will somehow effect how you perceive warranties and realize there not gimmicks to sell you invincible ski, they are there to built skier-company relations and know that the product you are buying is a well made ski, and if you have a problem with it, there going to be there to help you 100%.

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I have one thing to add, not only do rider owned companies offer this but the majority of other good compaines you can buy twin tips and other products from as well.

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done, thanks for the suggestion.

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SO now there is no longer an excuse for you guys to bitch and complain about warranties, and no excuse to bash compnaies about there warranties.

So i don;t want to hear it!

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it was awesome, last year my edge and core ripped out on my expressions when i was sliding rails, and i had only skied them about 10 times. volkl warrantied them no problem...

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i cant beleive you wrote nearly a full page on warranty bullshit, that is for the company to deal with when you send your haggard shit in

 
good post kev

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hey, straytblunted maybe if you actually read it, you would realize what im actaully talking about and who i wrote it for.

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seriously does skateboarders cry about shitty companys in the industry when theyre boards crack after a month or two. uhm no.

Get over it.

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Here is my issue with companies and warrenties, if a company says 'this is a jib ski' then it should be made to take the abbuse of a rail ect. if a company will push it's products by having thier pro-team hitting rails, and use pictures of their pro-team on rails, then the ski should be able to take that sort of abbuse. IF ferrari decided that if you took your Enzo over 65 miles an hour then they would void your warentee, i think you'd agree with me that it's supose to be able to go fast, it's advertised and used by the company as a race car, so how is it fair to the buyer who is purchasing the product as a Jib ski to be able to do rails, thats advertised as a park/rail ski, not be able to be coverd under warentee for the normal wear and tear.

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well, that is the way I try to look at it, but also skis are a lot more expensive than a skateboard. and skateboards have genrally similar structure.

I would get over it unsless say it was only your like ten time riding and your skis go bad. Then thats an approriate time to warrenty.

 
yeah skateboards are cheaper but then again you buy a new like once a month if you skateboard hard, but then again you could buy blancs theyre cheap.

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'a jib ski' youve gotta be kidding me man! there is no way on this earth that a ski company culd build a ski that would without doubt put up with any 'jibbing' torture you could dish out! if they DID make it...it would cost as much as a car! steel edges vs. steel rails will eventually equal cracked edge, and very dull edges....due to teh fact that there is a LOT more steel on that rail than there is on your ski....and cores.....sure they COULD make a ski out of indesturtable composites they can purchase from nasa...but are you willing to pay that price? no way........'jib ' skis are built as tought as they CAN be built...while keeping the price at a reasonable place.....

 
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Or I could just get new skis every year, which would make more sense... but then I wouldn't have nearly as much bling bling steeze.

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dude, they make jib ski's NOW, the problem is they don't withstand what they are made for, or rather marketed for. thus making the warentee bullshit because they can't market a ski for jibbing, then say oh that's not how the ski's are supose to be used

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