13549126:McLS said:
I am in paris. I've always lived in paris. The past 24h have been nothing but empty streets, calling friends, constantly checking updates. I keep forgetting if it's saturday or sunday, I haven't done anything but talk about the attacks since it happened.
I'd briefly like to share my opinion on what happens next.
Violence isnt and never will be the answer. Its quite the contrary. Interventions in Iraq and other middle east countries essentially started this terrorism. All Isis wants is for us to kill muslims. So that they can have a bigger motive for their actions, so that they can convince more people to join them against us. Unfortunately, secret services and defense was already at its best since the 7 of january attacks, there isnt much more there we can do to prevent more attacks.
What needs to be done is to stop the conflicts in Syria. Syria is at the heart of this problem, with Assad unofficially supporting isis against the rebels, and the russians supporting him. The occidental world needs to sit down at a table with poutine and Assad, apologize to poutine for all the stupid fucking lessons we thought good to give him about ukraine and come to terms to stabilize Syria.
I agree that isis needs to be wiped. There isnt a lot of em either, only a few thousands active members. Only problem is if the UN or the US decide to take action and wipes them out, it will create thousand more of fanatic who will want to fight our armies, and we'll end up with more terrorism than ever. We need to go out in the middle east and show the population (i mean every population, chiit or sunniites, rebel or army) that we're here to help. Show them that they dont need isis to protect them from the war. Then ideally wipe isis out through the Syrian army helped by Putine.
And as for long term in those countries, democracy will never work for them. At least not for a few decades. Let Russia control Syria. Instore communism if they have to. At least there will be peace.
We've seen thanks to Bush (dont get me wrong, im far from antiamerican, and used to be all for Iraq interventions) that trying to instore a better government by force does not work. The people of the country have ro do it by themselves. And if that means religious dictatirships well fuck it. We cant do more. But I beleive if we show the people we can help non violently, they will want moderation.
Just my opinion. I hope no one you know was injured or worse today, and please, do not generalize and leave antiislamic comments, that is what terrorists want. To feed the tension, to make us ostraticise muslim, to create conflicts. Dont let them fool you. If the middle east was christian, terrorists would be christians.
Assad has not been supporting ISIS, he and his army have been doing much to the contrary, same with Russia.
We would have to go back to the 2013 bombings in Syria conducted by Israel to understand the geopolitical scope of these issues. The bombings were indirect attacks on Iran. Syria and Iran are bound by a mutual defense pact and are strategic alliances. The US and Israel's senate resolution 65, surely to pass states that congress reaffirms the long-standing bonds of friendship and cooperation between the United States and Israel, supports the full implementation of U.S. and international sanctions on Iran, recognizes the tremendous threat posed to the United States, the West, and Israel by Iran's pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability, formerly Iran has not even decided nor has the capability to create a nuclear warhead, as stated by the CIA. It also states that if Israel is compelled to take military action in self-defense against Iran's nuclear weapons program the U.S. government will provide Israel with diplomatic, military, and economic support. Hence, the foreign relations committee voting to endorse resolution 65 (April 17, 2013) is the latchkey should Israel attack Iran.
So people should know that Israel has openly indicated its desire to use military force on Iran. Formerly, on January 30th 2013 the US government affirmed that the Syrian government under Assad utilized chemical weapons against its own people. Following this event, it was revealed that a hacker leaked emails and a large quantity of sensitive documents from a UK based military contractor. Particular emails within these hacked documents were manipulated to make it look like this operation had full proof from the US government, however this is incorrect and stains the documents’ credibility. Nevertheless, a plan by Qatari was to have the firm provide false evidence that Syria would give the go ahead to use chemical weapons.
Three months later, on March 19th sarin gas was used in Aleppo, Syria. Israel and the US accused the Syrian government when many of those killed were Syrian government soldiers. Obama then began talking about the event as a ‘RED LINE’ that had been crossed. However, the UN investigated the subject and on May 6th 2013 UN investigator Carla Del Ponte went public, stating that it was in fact the Syrian rebels that utilized sarin gas and that there was no sign that the Syrian government launched any chemical attacks whatsoever.
According to the lab results, investigators discovered the presence of Hexogen, which was utilized as an opening charge and is not used in standard chemical emissions. Therefore, results pointed to the attack being launched by the Syrian rebels.
Mysteriously, the Obama Administration backed down from previous claims. I believe this was done to create the ostensible reason for military involvement.
Iran-backed Hezbollah weapons were said to be the target according to Israel. The real motive however, was to derail Syria’s progress in their fight against foreign militants originally from Lebanon. Hezbollah, who sides with president Assad’s regime, declares that it was a war against foreign backed terrorists. Iran has sent over 4,000 troops to aid Assad and Russia s-300, have responded to take Syria's side as well as China. This is all about how Iran has one of the largest oil reserves; in addition they are not cooperating with the US. The USA's excuse to invade Syria is an excuse to draw Iran into an exposed conflict.
Following these events, the US increased their support significantly. In July, the US openly began discussing kinetic strikes against Syria as if their lies hadn’t been exposed. Shortly after, on August 21st 2013 the US attempted once again to frame the Syrian government. Initially, the media coverage tried to pin the attack on the Syrian government and the US and France instantly came out condemning Assad. By August 24th the Pentagon already announced plans for missile strikes. That very day the Syrian army came forward with footage to back up their report that they uncovered a massive chemical weapons stash in Rebel tunnels in the Damascus suburbs of Jawbar. This is the exact neighborhood of where the chemical weapon attacks took place.
On May 31st 2013 Turkey finds a 2kg cylinder filled with sarin gas in homes of Syrian militants.
On July 7th the Syrian army went public regarding a chemical lab that they found belonging to the Syrian rebels outside the city of Damascus.
What is the motive? The only parties that benefit from the ensuing attack are the Syrian rebels, the US and its allies. The Syrian government knows full well that NATO and the US have been looking for any accuse to invade. Moreover, two days after the attack, the Syrian rebels release a video statement vowing to strike back with any and all means. They claimed to have access to chemical weapons and that they now intended to use them with zero misgivings from this point forward. Basically, they are using their own crime for a pretext to openly utilize chemical weapons in battle.
As of recent “Obama now admits Assad MUST go before ISIS can be defeated: President plans to focus on Syria and ousting dictator as he tries to beat back terror group,” Strange when Assad is an enemy of ISIS, which if he was to be ousted would pave way for ISIS control over that region. It would make more sense to help Assad and Russia destroy ISIS in Syria leaving the reduced and concentrated in the killing sand hoc of Iraq. That's been the plan all along. ISIS was used as a pretext to attack Syria and then Iran.
So if the US invades a lot of civilians will die. Their situation is not going to be enhanced by the US attacking, anymore than it was in Iraq.
Ever smell the stench from a rotting corpse? Ever hold the half torn apart body of a wife, child, and brother, friend as the life slips away into total coldness? Well, hundreds of deaths daily are being orchestrated by a very profitable war machine. If they escalate that machine in Syria, it will be thousands, if not tens of thousands.
The point I am trying to make here which is as relevant as it gets, is that the academia / conditioned entertainment individual mentality today and for the last decade is so detached from reality they talk and write as if debating the rules and reasoning of the war topic as if a cribbage game. They mention death and slaughter (potential or actual) as if a review of a new TV series.
All of us need to grab ourselves by the scuff of our own shirts and kick ourselves very hard, often, and with true disdain as to how we have allowed ourselves to be so sound bite conditioned to be in all reality detached from the reality of the death for profit we are all being spoon fed in the tone as if whom will win the spelling bee today.
Safety through conditioned illusion of the reality of a situation will not cut it any more. Ever dream you could fly, or walk through walls, or walk down the highway into oncoming traffic where the cars would not hit you?
Well, dreaming is safe. Illusion is safe. Hard core "reality" can have lethal and unintended consequences for those that allow themselves to be entertained.
Again, reality says: Stand-down regarding attacking Syria.
Arrogance for a show of deadly force at the cost of much blood and lives cannot be allowed or tolerated. This is not entertainment folks, it is the choice between life and death.
The circumstances for any war or lethal military attack should be determined by: THE ANSWER TO THIS ONE QUESTION: If you, your family, and all of your friends were sitting at ground zero, do the circumstances created by others in that location warrant a lethal strike on ground zero?
If the answer is yes TO THAT QUESTION, than bombs away. If no, then stand down and resolve, or assist to resolving if you choose. Resolving the circumstances that moved the question to be asked in the first place.
War is the bully coward’s way of confrontation without the use of effective true intelligence and brilliance applied for mutually beneficial coexistence. War also puts much easy money in the pockets of what can be called noting other than true, well placed human scum.
The choice is all of ours folks of Life or Death. Choose wisely and back your choice up with true applied force to influence what end result flourishes. Those that choose death should in true justice reap what they sow and Ditto for those that choose life.
