The situation in Afghanistan

VTshredder69

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The Taliban is murdering everyone who associated with the USA. They're pledging to treat women equally while they behead those not wearing hijabs. People are falling from the wings of planes just to get out of their own country.

Really puts in perspective how good western culture has it.

The current US administration is hiding and pretending nothing is happening.

We really need to help those in need. People who voted Biden should donate first =)
https://www.gofundme.com/f/flyaway-emergency-afghan-rescue-mission
 
Shits been fucked since like 2004. I was there in 2013 we ran route clearance for some guys closing FOBs down and handing them over to ANA, usually within a few days or weeks they would simply abandon their posts and be gone. I've watched brothers and sisters lose limbs and lives for a country (Afghanistan) that did not want to fight the fight after we left. It was time to leave shit it was time to leave 16 years ago.

The withdrawal should have not been this hasty though. Get the people we want out but not like this. Take a few months but get out.
 
Also this might be the spark the people of Afghanistan needed they could be looking at a full blown revolution once the Taliban institutes sharia law again. Only time will tell though.
 
We need to let them be them. Quit wasting tax dollars and American lives trying to fix everything. Now if they are aggressive to us or US citizens then sure they gonna get fucked up. Otherwise bye like every other hostile 3rd world country.

Fun fact: Afghanistan used to be part of the hippy trail where folks would go for a stop through the kush mountains.... If Russia and Nixon hadn't fucked them up on a downward trajectory we might be skiing in Afghanistan by now.
 
I hate to say it, but it’s mostly their fault. It was never our job to go over there and they got comfortable. Trump alluded once or twice to dropping a nuke over there, and with the support of Russia & China - I’ll say that may well be a very humane solution if it gets bad enough. But until then they will just have to deal with the Taliban, and just like everyone here has to wear masks - they gotta keep the Hijab on or find a way out.
 
I can't be bothered to find it but yesterday I watched a video of the US military trying to train up the Afghan military, it was a shitshow.
 
14312801:CatdickBojangles said:
Also this might be the spark the people of Afghanistan needed they could be looking at a full blown revolution once the Taliban institutes sharia law again. Only time will tell though.

I highly doubt that. I mean, the military with a full assortment of US Weapons and years of training just bailed on the country. The problem is a lot of Afghans dont even really acknowledge nationalism or that they are part of a country. For them, its about their tribe and thats it so they dont really care about the broader issues not directly affecting them.
 
14312831:TrickyDick470 said:
I can't be bothered to find it but yesterday I watched a video of the US military trying to train up the Afghan military, it was a shitshow.

There was a Vice documentary on it back in the day. It was pretty messed up. The country is basically split between Islamic Taliban and child rapist tribal leaders. Afghanistan has been a fucked up shithole ever since Genghis Khan rolled in and slaughtered everyone in the valleys so the population fled to the mountains and basically live the same way today.
 
Anyone who helped us over there such as translators and informants should have been granted asylum and the option to become a citizen. I feel shitty for those people. The people of Afganistan are getting what they wanted though. The Afghan military had 300,000 troops and was well supplied and funded by us. They could have easily fought the Taliban and won but instead, they all threw down their arms and walked away. They had no will to fight. I'm glad that stupid and wasteful war is finally over. Good on Biden for honoring Trump's treaty and ending it. Hopefully, we maintain some sort of covert presence there and find any terrorist cells planning to attack us
 
You have to feel for all the translators and Afghans who put their ass on the line helping the US fight the taliban and are now getting hung out to dry.

I understand why people are saying this is an endless war and this was inevitable one day or another we should have left a long time ago- but at this point in the conflict our soldiers were not sustaining hardly any casualties and us just kind of being there hanging out was keeping the Afghani government propped up against the Taliban. No one wants an endless war but if you had to get stuck in one there are worse hands you could have drawn. I can only speculate Biden thought if they slow played it they would never really get to leave so they ripped the bandaid off and just braced for the blowback. Problem is if you are going to abandon your ally it’s best not to trip over the doormat, knock a lamp over and light the house on fire as you’re walking out to your car
 
They had a national government in place and a standing army of 350,000 men, trained and equipped by the US military. They've lived in mud huts for millennia, and apparently we thought maybe we could change that in 20 years. Time to let them live how they live, as warring, brutal, murderous tribes, still living in mud huts.

The reality of how women and children are treated in Afghanistan would have you in disbelief. The media really doesn't cover that part of things often, usually only anecdotally and they never talk about the true reality of it.
 
topic:VTshredder69 said:
The Taliban is murdering everyone who associated with the USA. They're pledging to treat women equally while they behead those not wearing hijabs. People are falling from the wings of planes just to get out of their own country.

i'm seriously bewildered by all the news from different media sources politely asking the Taliban's new regime to "respect human rights". Do they know who they're talking to? Do they know what these people have done? What are they thinking?
 
The wildest shit to me is seeing these hardcore jihadist dudes who “live by sharia law” out here just doing donuts in land cruisers through Kabul international, eating fucking ice cream for the first time ever, and tossing weights in the presidential palace. All that opulence, modernity, and materialism is exactly what you are preaching against…right?
 
This is what happens when you go to war with an ideology. A nation gives up once they lost to many of their own and the economy back home becomes to strained. An ideology however will always be around, it does not nearly surrender. I never what to see the US go into a foreign land, erect a government the people of the land don't want, and then spend decades trying maintain that system that will be able to sustain on its own. Thats how you get endless wars.
 
14312826:ChadThundercock said:
Trump alluded once or twice to dropping a nuke over there, and with the support of Russia & China - I’ll say that may well be a very humane solution if it gets bad enough. But until then they will just have to deal with the Taliban, and just like everyone here has to wear masks - they gotta keep the Hijab on or find a way out.

Yeah great idea. Just kill all the innocent people over there just to show who's boss. I don't care how insignificant of a country you are, if the US goes and nukes one, that will undoubtedly lose us all allies and probably start a new world war originating in the middle east.

Let's not even talk about the long term health consequences of nuclear weapons.
 
That one dude has a fucking RPG strapped to his back


What a fucking world

14312914:DesertStix said:
The wildest shit to me is seeing these hardcore jihadist dudes who “live by sharia law” out here just doing donuts in land cruisers through Kabul international, eating fucking ice cream for the first time ever, and tossing weights in the presidential palace. All that opulence, modernity, and materialism is exactly what you are preaching against…right?

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14312987:VTshredder69 said:
That one dude has a fucking RPG strapped to his back


What a fucking world

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14312990:T.L. said:

Yeah but they still used them which is what they are out here parading folks through town tarred and beaten for. The double standards are wild. I remember in college a professor said you can tell who the true believers are by what they do with their own biological children. And most of the time, high up taliban leaders are sending their kids out of that warzone and into much more western and modern settings.

If you’re a Jihadist who sends your kid to a private university in the states and they drive a garage full of luxury cars and are at the club 3 times a week, I don’t think you truly believe in the strict Islamic interpretation you’re preaching…
 
14312987:VTshredder69 said:
That one dude has a fucking RPG strapped to his back


What a fucking world

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They were really struggling trying to figure out how to jump on a trampoline.
 
14312883:skeirman said:
The reality of how women and children are treated in Afghanistan would have you in disbelief. The media really doesn't cover that part of things often, usually only anecdotally and they never talk about the true reality of it.

istg why is this being so ignored or obscured by the media?

In high school I read a book called "reading Lolita in Tehran" and it really opened an eye as to how much women in Iran were overtly limited by laws and also how much theocratic propaganda dominated the country. When the US military killed General Soleimani a couple years ago, I couldn't believe how many Western news sources described him as some people's war hero. He worked for a terrible, oppressive government. An equivalent propaganda figure in the West would be regarded as disgusting by progressives and put in a bad light by the media. Why is the media so easy on these awful theocratic regimes??

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14313025:FruitBootPro said:
istg why is this being so ignored or obscured by the media?

In high school I read a book called "reading Lolita in Tehran" and it really opened an eye as to how much women in Iran were overtly limited by laws and also how much theocratic propaganda dominated the country. When the US military killed General Soleimani a couple years ago, I couldn't believe how many Western news sources described him as some people's war hero. He worked for a terrible, oppressive government. An equivalent propaganda figure in the West would be regarded as disgusting by progressives and put in a bad light by the media. Why is the media so easy on these awful theocratic regimes??

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Look, you and a lot of others in this thread, need to understand when you say things like, terrible, oppressive regime, you’re not really any better than what you’re condemning. You’re simplifying an issue that is extremely complex and taking something with a lot of different perspectives and historical adaptations and making it into your own narrative. Just because you read one book, from one person’s perspective doesn’t really give you the right to comment on a country of over 83 million people.

Now I’m not saying the Taliban or Iran are a positive presence, it’s just that you have to understand the historical reasons that these countries decided to popularize some intense form of Islam governed by sharia law. These historical pieces would take novels to write out but most of it starts with the objective history of western drawing out of countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. These countries are extremely diverse and often times you have different groups (ethnic, tribal, religious) living next to each other that have thousands of years of bad blood and are all of a sudden expected to live next to one another and unify under the label “Afghanistan” or “Iraq” that never was really theirs to begin with, just a British/American/French interpretation of how the land should be separated.

Imagine it this way...if the Native Americans had not been completely subjugated by disease and had been able to hold their own, the US would look a whole lot different. We would have a lot of the same striations that exist in these countries about who’s land it really is and simmering tensions from before. I’m speculating on this obviously so it could all be BS. The Maori in New Zealand integrated very well and is another example.

The US has a history of enabling pro-war people who at the time were enemies of our enemies (Soleimani against the Taliban in 2005, Saddam Hussein against Iran in the 80s, Bin Laden against the Russians in the 80s...see a pattern yet?) This alone is pretty common knowledge across the Arab world, but somehow Americans just seem to parrot the same Iran bad, terrorism bad, mantra, without ever really empathizing with the historical fallacies of US foreign policy. Again, not saying this is all the US’s fault, but for the purpose of moving forward with a more harmonious world, it is imperative that Americans (who vote in the politicians that send the voters and voters’ wallets to war) start figuring this stuff out to avoid the perpetual debt machine that is the “War on Terrorism”.

Anyway, spark notes: there’s a lot to this shit and it’s silly to call things good and bad without ever having been to these countries or having a limited window of perspective on the matter
 
14313025:FruitBootPro said:
istg why is this being so ignored or obscured by the media?

In high school I read a book called "reading Lolita in Tehran" and it really opened an eye as to how much women in Iran were overtly limited by laws and also how much theocratic propaganda dominated the country. When the US military killed General Soleimani a couple years ago, I couldn't believe how many Western news sources described him as some people's war hero. He worked for a terrible, oppressive government. An equivalent propaganda figure in the West would be regarded as disgusting by progressives and put in a bad light by the media. Why is the media so easy on these awful theocratic regimes??

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Who do you think is going easy on the administration in the media? CNN has been playing the Stephanopolous interview with Biden basically on repeat, saying anyone citing 300k Afghan troops was knowingly lying, showing images of people throwing their children over the checkpoint walls and parading every analyst they have on to reiterate what catastrophic fuck up this is.
 
14313011:SuspiciousFish said:
Here is a really good article explaining why the Afghan Army just dissolved.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/8/17/why-did-the-afghan-army-disintegrate-so-quickly

Our intelligence agencies really should of have a better read of the situation on the ground. A lot of our own troops who worked with the Afghan Army knew they were basically worthless. Ask any vet and he will tell you a few stories of the local troops being incompetent and lazy.

Good read, kinda makes sense now.

I've heard a lot of people blaming the Afghans for giving up so quickly "we did all we could training you for 20 years, you guys suck, that's on you" but that's a really flawed argument. The US and NATO are certainly to blame for flushing taxpayer money down the drain by giving it to that joke of a government. How the fuck can our intelligence agencies not tell that the money is not actually going to the army and that therefore there is basically no afghan army? I blame these guys.

What a clusterfuck. The US has lost 4 of the last 5 wars it entered, I don't agree with Trump a lot, but I gotta say he was right when he said "now we never win a war". Technologically we've been keeping up with the times, but strategically our military is fucking clueless, war has changed and it failed to adapt, it's all civil wars now, and we're dogshit at it. We're spending more than everyone else combined and yet we can't win, it's kinda pathetic.

2,300 US soldiers dead in Afghanistan to get to that end result, and of course no one will be held accountable.
 
14313028:MitchPee said:
Look, you and a lot of others in this thread, need to understand when you say things like, terrible, oppressive regime, you’re not really any better than what you’re condemning. You’re simplifying an issue that is extremely complex and taking something with a lot of different perspectives and historical adaptations and making it into your own narrative. Just because you read one book, from one person’s perspective doesn’t really give you the right to comment on a country of over 83 million people.

Now I’m not saying the Taliban or Iran are a positive presence, it’s just that you have to understand the historical reasons that these countries decided to popularize some intense form of Islam governed by sharia law. These historical pieces would take novels to write out but most of it starts with the objective history of western drawing out of countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. These countries are extremely diverse and often times you have different groups (ethnic, tribal, religious) living next to each other that have thousands of years of bad blood and are all of a sudden expected to live next to one another and unify under the label “Afghanistan” or “Iraq” that never was really theirs to begin with, just a British/American/French interpretation of how the land should be separated.

Imagine it this way...if the Native Americans had not been completely subjugated by disease and had been able to hold their own, the US would look a whole lot different. We would have a lot of the same striations that exist in these countries about who’s land it really is and simmering tensions from before. I’m speculating on this obviously so it could all be BS. The Maori in New Zealand integrated very well and is another example.

The US has a history of enabling pro-war people who at the time were enemies of our enemies (Soleimani against the Taliban in 2005, Saddam Hussein against Iran in the 80s, Bin Laden against the Russians in the 80s...see a pattern yet?) This alone is pretty common knowledge across the Arab world, but somehow Americans just seem to parrot the same Iran bad, terrorism bad, mantra, without ever really empathizing with the historical fallacies of US foreign policy. Again, not saying this is all the US’s fault, but for the purpose of moving forward with a more harmonious world, it is imperative that Americans (who vote in the politicians that send the voters and voters’ wallets to war) start figuring this stuff out to avoid the perpetual debt machine that is the “War on Terrorism”.

Anyway, spark notes: there’s a lot to this shit and it’s silly to call things good and bad without ever having been to these countries or having a limited window of perspective on the matter

What a load of bullshit. Stop defending the brutal subjugation and abuse of children across Afghanistan by groups who literally operate by ancient tribal rules, by saying "it's complex." That is the exact shit jihadists say to justify their forced notions of islamic theocracy.
 
What? That last sentence doesn’t even make sense. He’s not defending subjugation of women etc. he’s commenting on our flawed and failed attempts at thinking we are in a position to send some troops over there, spread democracy, and just leave the country with no more radical Islamist beliefs. That’s not how that works.

Ideologies like extremist interpretations of Islam will never cease to exist because of military conflict. 100% they are eradicated socially when enough people decide they are fed up and want a more modern way of living. But, until they decide that as a country, we’re not in a position to act for them. Want to eradicate the taliban? Empower Malala to educate the next generation on why the taliban is keeping them from living fulfilling lives, give the people access to the modernity they are being deprived of, etc.

14313038:skeirman said:
What a load of bullshit. Stop defending the brutal subjugation and abuse of children across Afghanistan by groups who literally operate by ancient tribal rules, by saying "it's complex." That is the exact shit jihadists say to justify their forced notions of islamic theocracy.
 
14313038:skeirman said:
What a load of bullshit. Stop defending the brutal subjugation and abuse of children across Afghanistan by groups who literally operate by ancient tribal rules, by saying "it's complex." That is the exact shit jihadists say to justify their forced notions of islamic theocracy.

It is actually the Tribal Leaders that the US worked with who rape little boys, not the Taliban:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/...ld-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html

In any case, fuck Afghanistan. Its a shitty backwater of the world and the people there are going to be screwed over by pedophile warlords or Islamic extremists so lets not waste any more money pretending these people can function in a Democracy.
 
14313028:MitchPee said:
Look, you and a lot of others in this thread, need to understand when you say things like, terrible, oppressive regime, you’re not really any better than what you’re condemning. You’re simplifying an issue that is extremely complex and taking something with a lot of different perspectives and historical adaptations and making it into your own narrative. Just because you read one book, from one person’s perspective doesn’t really give you the right to comment on a country of over 83 million people.

Now I’m not saying the Taliban or Iran are a positive presence, it’s just that you have to understand the historical reasons that these countries decided to popularize some intense form of Islam governed by sharia law. These historical pieces would take novels to write out but most of it starts with the objective history of western drawing out of countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. These countries are extremely diverse and often times you have different groups (ethnic, tribal, religious) living next to each other that have thousands of years of bad blood and are all of a sudden expected to live next to one another and unify under the label “Afghanistan” or “Iraq” that never was really theirs to begin with, just a British/American/French interpretation of how the land should be separated.

Imagine it this way...if the Native Americans had not been completely subjugated by disease and had been able to hold their own, the US would look a whole lot different. We would have a lot of the same striations that exist in these countries about who’s land it really is and simmering tensions from before. I’m speculating on this obviously so it could all be BS. The Maori in New Zealand integrated very well and is another example.

The US has a history of enabling pro-war people who at the time were enemies of our enemies (Soleimani against the Taliban in 2005, Saddam Hussein against Iran in the 80s, Bin Laden against the Russians in the 80s...see a pattern yet?) This alone is pretty common knowledge across the Arab world, but somehow Americans just seem to parrot the same Iran bad, terrorism bad, mantra, without ever really empathizing with the historical fallacies of US foreign policy. Again, not saying this is all the US’s fault, but for the purpose of moving forward with a more harmonious world, it is imperative that Americans (who vote in the politicians that send the voters and voters’ wallets to war) start figuring this stuff out to avoid the perpetual debt machine that is the “War on Terrorism”.

Anyway, spark notes: there’s a lot to this shit and it’s silly to call things good and bad without ever having been to these countries or having a limited window of perspective on the matter

Its worse than that. Remember Lawrence of Arabia? He helped the Arabs fight a guerilla war against the Ottoman Empire in WWI with the promise that if they won then the European powers would give them the land. Unfortunately, about this time they found a shit ton of oil there so the Europeans signed the secret Sykes Picot agreement which ended up getting leaked to the Arabs by the Bolsheviks. It was basically a plan to carve up the Middle East into puppet states to get oil which created the Middle East as we know it today. Between that and the British saying "Fuck it" and allowing the Jewish terrorist factions to take over Israel when the Palestine Mandate ended after they bombed the King David hotel and some railroads.

So all that sums up to a lot of pissed off people in a region that are easily united by the more extreme factions of their religion.
 
14313063:SuspiciousFish said:
It is actually the Tribal Leaders that the US worked with who rape little boys, not the Taliban:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/...ld-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html

In any case, fuck Afghanistan. Its a shitty backwater of the world and the people there are going to be screwed over by pedophile warlords or Islamic extremists so lets not waste any more money pretending these people can function in a Democracy.

that is fucked. sort of like our holleywood tribal leaders... AKA Epstein
 
14313087:VTshredder69 said:
that is fucked. sort of like our holleywood tribal leaders... AKA Epstein

This is a really good documentary on the shitshow of the occupation:


One of the soldiers talks about literally hearing kids scream but is commander told him he couldn't do anything about it.
 
*38million

14313028:MitchPee said:
Look, you and a lot of others in this thread, need to understand when you say things like, terrible, oppressive regime, you’re not really any better than what you’re condemning. You’re simplifying an issue that is extremely complex and taking something with a lot of different perspectives and historical adaptations and making it into your own narrative. Just because you read one book, from one person’s perspective doesn’t really give you the right to comment on a country of over 83 million people.

Now I’m not saying the Taliban or Iran are a positive presence, it’s just that you have to understand the historical reasons that these countries decided to popularize some intense form of Islam governed by sharia law. These historical pieces would take novels to write out but most of it starts with the objective history of western drawing out of countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. These countries are extremely diverse and often times you have different groups (ethnic, tribal, religious) living next to each other that have thousands of years of bad blood and are all of a sudden expected to live next to one another and unify under the label “Afghanistan” or “Iraq” that never was really theirs to begin with, just a British/American/French interpretation of how the land should be separated.

Imagine it this way...if the Native Americans had not been completely subjugated by disease and had been able to hold their own, the US would look a whole lot different. We would have a lot of the same striations that exist in these countries about who’s land it really is and simmering tensions from before. I’m speculating on this obviously so it could all be BS. The Maori in New Zealand integrated very well and is another example.

The US has a history of enabling pro-war people who at the time were enemies of our enemies (Soleimani against the Taliban in 2005, Saddam Hussein against Iran in the 80s, Bin Laden against the Russians in the 80s...see a pattern yet?) This alone is pretty common knowledge across the Arab world, but somehow Americans just seem to parrot the same Iran bad, terrorism bad, mantra, without ever really empathizing with the historical fallacies of US foreign policy. Again, not saying this is all the US’s fault, but for the purpose of moving forward with a more harmonious world, it is imperative that Americans (who vote in the politicians that send the voters and voters’ wallets to war) start figuring this stuff out to avoid the perpetual debt machine that is the “War on Terrorism”.

Anyway, spark notes: there’s a lot to this shit and it’s silly to call things good and bad without ever having been to these countries or having a limited window of perspective on the matter
 
“LETS DO IT ON 9/11!!! ITS SO POETIC!! WE WILL CELEBRATE THE 20 YR REUNION OF 9/11 BY LEAVING AFGHANISTAN EXACTLY 20 YEARS LATER!!”

hmmm…

much poetic

very symbolism

Biden has the decision-making ability of an autistic child and now we know so do the rest of his shiteating administration.

But knowing that biden isnt making any decisions at this point, i would wager this idiotic 20 yr reunion withdrawal idea came from that fucking disgrace kamala madea harris.
 
You do know the trump administration was in peace talks with the taliban on 9/11 in 2019 right? He even invited them to Camp David that day but the veteran community roasted his ass and he canceled 2 days before. That doesn’t fit your narrative though, dumbass.

Oh, how about when Trump released FIVE FUCKING THOUSAND taliban prisoners that year. Who do you think is over there running through Kabul? Oh maybe those guys. But I’m sure you either didn’t know that or it doesn’t fit your narrative so you purposefully forgot it.

I know your old crusty ass remembers Bush and Cheney who actually got us into the War on Terror but god forbid your lack of analytical skills takes them into account. Let alone Carter who got into Afghanistan in 79 and Reagan who armed the mujahideen who is now the Taliban. But fuck looking at the root of the problem, right?

My point is both Trump and Biden fucked up heavily and you’re on here continuing to talk about one side. You’re honestly the problem with America encapsulated in a damn NS account. You’re more interested in trolling people than actually helping us be the beacon of freedom we like to think we once were. Fuck you bro.

14313228:hunterS.dolanson said:
“LETS DO IT ON 9/11!!! ITS SO POETIC!! WE WILL CELEBRATE THE 20 YR REUNION OF 9/11 BY LEAVING AFGHANISTAN EXACTLY 20 YEARS LATER!!”

hmmm…

much poetic

very symbolism

Biden has the decision-making ability of an autistic child and now we know so do the rest of his shiteating administration.

But knowing that biden isnt making any decisions at this point, i would wager this idiotic 20 yr reunion withdrawal idea came from that fucking disgrace kamala madea harris.
 
Btw, before any of you morons do your own spreading of this inflatable plane conspiracy, I asked my friend who flies C-17s about it and he said it's definitely a real plane and he knows a guy that was on THAT plane in the video.
 
14313342:JAHpow said:
Btw, before any of you morons do your own spreading of this inflatable plane conspiracy, I asked my friend who flies C-17s about it and he said it's definitely a real plane and he knows a guy that was on THAT plane in the video.

What did he say about those fools that listen to too much r Kelly and thought they could fly?
 
Oh I dunno maybe think about people who jumped off the twin towers. You making fun of them too? Both are the victims of Taliban actions and realized dying might have been the best/easiest choice in the moment. But hey they were Americans so we felt pity and sympathy.

14313345:skeirman said:
What did he say about those fools that listen to too much r Kelly and thought they could fly?
 
14313352:DesertStix said:
Oh I dunno maybe think about people who jumped off the twin towers. You making fun of them too? Both are the victims of Taliban actions and realized dying might have been the best/easiest choice in the moment. But hey they were Americans so we felt pity and sympathy.

You don't like R. Kelly or what?

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14313342:JAHpow said:
Btw, before any of you morons do your own spreading of this inflatable plane conspiracy, I asked my friend who flies C-17s about it and he said it's definitely a real plane and he knows a guy that was on THAT plane in the video.

I wonder what the inflight beverage service options are.

At least they let women and children on first.

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14313363:VTshredder69 said:
I wonder what the inflight beverage service options are.

At least they let women and children on first.

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That flight set a record I think. Almost 900 people in that C17. They still had another ~30k lbs of payload capacity too but no floor space.
 
14313423:T.L. said:
That flight set a record I think. Almost 900 people in that C17. They still had another ~30k lbs of payload capacity too but no floor space.

It is impressive no doubt, but the enemy was equipped with 80’s Toyota hilux pickup trucks. The full might of the US military could not bring down the solid front axle combined with a 22re
 
14312914:DesertStix said:
The wildest shit to me is seeing these hardcore jihadist dudes who “live by sharia law” out here just doing donuts in land cruisers through Kabul international, eating fucking ice cream for the first time ever, and tossing weights in the presidential palace. All that opulence, modernity, and materialism is exactly what you are preaching against…right?

Rules for thee, not for me. A tale as old as time.
 
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