The Official: "What is wrong with my boots?" Thread

[onenerdykid]

Wow, quick answer. Thanks.

Hard to tell, but yeah it does feel a little low. Though, from comparing it with my old boot, it is not really lower. How can I find out?

it does hurt exactly where the cuff ends.

Asuming that is the problem: is there anything that can be done to resolve the issue?

**This post was edited on May 7th 2018 at 4:49:23am

Since you've downsized, the cuff will sit about 8-10mm lower than your normal size. Usually a "racing spoiler" can be attached to the front part of the cuff flaps to make the effective cuff height taller in the front. Most every brand, including Fischer, should have one of these that can be added on. This may help.

It might also be a liner problem. The shape of the liner tongue might not be agreeing with you either. Every company has a unique curve shape to their plastic tongue. Some are straighter, some have more of a radius to them. If yours does have more of a forward bending radius, it could lead to discomfort in the shin area. In my experience, straighter tongues with less forward bend are more comfortable. Do you have any old liners you can toss in and experiment with just to see?

 

[Topsen]

Since you've downsized, the cuff will sit about 8-10mm lower than your normal size. Usually a "racing spoiler" can be attached to the front part of the cuff flaps to make the effective cuff height taller in the front. Most every brand, including Fischer, should have one of these that can be added on. This may help.

It might also be a liner problem. The shape of the liner tongue might not be agreeing with you either. Every company has a unique curve shape to their plastic tongue. Some are straighter, some have more of a radius to them. If yours does have more of a forward bending radius, it could lead to discomfort in the shin area. In my experience, straighter tongues with less forward bend are more comfortable. Do you have any old liners you can toss in and experiment with just to see?

Alright, will check on the race spoiler.

I actually do have an old K2 Intuition Liner, that would have to be heat molded to the new shell correct?

I also have a detachable tongue from an aftermarket sidas foam liner that did not work in a previous boot. As the tongue in the fischer liner is also detachable, I will have a look if I can swap them.

Thank you so far!

 

[onenerdykid]

Alright, will check on the race spoiler.

I actually do have an old K2 Intuition Liner, that would have to be heat molded to the new shell correct?

I also have a detachable tongue from an aftermarket sidas foam liner that did not work in a previous boot. As the tongue in the fischer liner is also detachable, I will have a look if I can swap them.

Thank you so far!

Ideally, you would remold the K2 liner again, but if it fits and feels good you can always just run it. The main rule is making the boot feel good again

Did your Sidas foam liner use a foam tongue? If so, that would probably be a great solution.

 

[Topsen]

Ideally, you would remold the K2 liner again, but if it fits and feels good you can always just run it. The main rule is making the boot feel good again

Did your Sidas foam liner use a foam tongue? If so, that would probably be a great solution.

No, I think it was just a standard tongue with a velcro in the toes. Though, I remember the tongue being great in the other boot. I had other problems like cold and numb feet in the foam liner.

Do you think the booster being too narrow might be a reason? Should I reinstall the stock power strap?

**This post was edited on May 7th 2018 at 8:32:29am

 

[What]

So my boots have been in storage for many years. They were bought new and worn for maybe 20-30 days just fine.

First day back into them, they cutoff all circulation after a run or two. I got through the day taking regular breaks to let the blood back into my feet. By the end of the day, one boot is basically fine, the other still cuts off circulation and I can feel it digging into the top of my foot just below my shin.

I think it might be the shell, not the lining?

Any tricks to stretching it out? Can the shell remold, or if its out of shape is that the end of it? Do I just need to wear them inside for a while and ski in them more?

Cant really afford new boots at the moment, so hoping I can do something.

 

[onenerdykid]

So my boots have been in storage for many years. They were bought new and worn for maybe 20-30 days just fine.

First day back into them, they cutoff all circulation after a run or two. I got through the day taking regular breaks to let the blood back into my feet. By the end of the day, one boot is basically fine, the other still cuts off circulation and I can feel it digging into the top of my foot just below my shin.

I think it might be the shell, not the lining?

Any tricks to stretching it out? Can the shell remold, or if its out of shape is that the end of it? Do I just need to wear them inside for a while and ski in them more?

Cant really afford new boots at the moment, so hoping I can do something.

What is the model of boot you have? How old is it actually?

If things are like 10 years old, there's a solid chance that not only are the foams kinda dead but your foot is not the same shape either.

It's definitely worth taking them to a shop, have them do a shell fit to make sure the size & shape is still good for your foot. If yes, then they can probably heat mold the liner to bring it back to life a bit.

 

[What]

Thanks mate.

Salomons that are pushing 10 years old. I forget the shell (gun maybe?), but it's a 'sensitiveliner'.

I won't get to a shop before Saturday on the slopes, but I will follow your advice and go in on Sunday to get it checked out.

Might try a quick heatmold at home tonight.

**This post was edited on Jun 13th 2018 at 6:17:53pm

 

[OhJay]

Ordered a pair of Dalbello Krypton 130s from this past season, and am wondering if they may be too small for me? My measured mondo is 26.5 and went down to 25.5 for these Kryps. Below is what's going on.

Shell fit: Approximately half an inch behind my heel. Just a hair of space on either side at last width, solid amount of clearance at the ankles though not exactly sure what to look for ankles in a shell fit.

Toe box: Pretty tight. Toes are definitely curled, but with my sidas footbed and flexing/walking around for 10-15 minutes, relaxes a bit. Would probably have to get a punch/grind depending how the Intuition liners break in after a heat mold.

Instep: This is where I'm having problems. It's damn near impossible to buckle the 2nd instep buckle no matter how much I slam my heel down and try to settle the tongue down. Not sure if Dalbello didn't account for the amount of liner foam protruding from the instep are of the shell, but the cable is not long enoug. Even with my foot out of the boot, you have to really shove the tongue down to buckle up the 2nd buckle. So far, I have not been able to repeat the only 2 times I was able to buckle down the ankle buckles. For reference, my instep measures 28.5, but thought Dalbellos/Cabrio boots were pretty accomodating to instep height. My instep hasn't caused any issues when trying on other downsized overlap boots so far.

Heel: Also problematic. The heel area is also really tight to the point where they're hurting the rear of my heel. Although not as thick as some of the other Intuitions I've had, they're definitely thicker (and quite stiffer) than stock liners of other boots I've tried (Lange, Nordica, Head).

So with the issues I'm having overall, my question is; Will heat molding the liners help my issues, or is the boot too small? I'm assuming the next size up will feel much better out the box, but will probably be too big of a shell fit and lead to a sloppy fit after X amount of days.

FWIW, I'm currently on FT First Chair 10s which I've had about 50 days on. Fit is OK and can't complain much, but am definitely looking to move on to a more precise fit and a proper,heftier alpine boot.

And thanks to onenerdy and anyone else contributing on NS, it's been quite helpful on my off season boot search.

**This post was edited on Jun 15th 2018 at 1:52:25pm

 

[onenerdykid]

Ordered a pair of Dalbello Krypton 130s from this past season, and am wondering if they may be too small for me? My measured mondo is 26.5 and went down to 25.5 for these Kryps. Below is what's going on.

Shell fit: Approximately half an inch behind my heel. Just a hair of space on either side at last width, solid amount of clearance at the ankles though not exactly sure what to look for ankles in a shell fit.

Toe box: Pretty tight. Toes are definitely curled, but with my sidas footbed and flexing/walking around for 10-15 minutes, relaxes a bit. Would probably have to get a punch/grind depending how the Intuition liners break in after a heat mold.

Instep: This is where I'm having problems. It's damn near impossible to buckle the 2nd instep buckle no matter how much I slam my heel down and try to settle the tongue down. Not sure if Dalbello didn't account for the amount of liner foam protruding from the instep are of the shell, but the cable is not long enoug. Even with my foot out of the boot, you have to really shove the tongue down to buckle up the 2nd buckle. So far, I have not been able to repeat the only 2 times I was able to buckle down the ankle buckles. For reference, my instep measures 28.5, but thought Dalbellos/Cabrio boots were pretty accomodating to instep height. My instep hasn't caused any issues when trying on other downsized overlap boots so far.

Heel: Also problematic. The heel area is also really tight to the point where they're hurting the rear of my heel. Although not as thick as some of the other Intuitions I've had, they're definitely thicker (and quite stiffer) than stock liners of other boots I've tried (Lange, Nordica, Head).

So with the issues I'm having overall, my question is; Will heat molding the liners help my issues, or is the boot too small? I'm assuming the next size up will feel much better out the box, but will probably be too big of a shell fit and lead to a sloppy fit after X amount of days.

FWIW, I'm currently on FT First Chair 10s which I've had about 50 days on. Fit is OK and can't complain much, but am definitely looking to move on to a more precise fit and a proper,heftier alpine boot.

And thanks to onenerdy and anyone else contributing on NS, it's been quite helpful on my off season boot search.

**This post was edited on Jun 15th 2018 at 1:52:25pm

When your instep circumference is greater than your actual mondo point size, then it normally means that you have a high instep for your size. Dropping down a shell size will only make this worse since the instep height of the shell is even lower. Look into getting the next longer cable size since the 25 will most likely use the shortest cable available.

You should definitely mold the liner, wear a toe cap, and buckle the instep buckle tightly. This will compress the foam in that area and hopefully create some more space for you.

If that doesn't work, try lowering the boot board a little by grinding off 1-2mm from the top surface. You'll gain some volume but not a ton. But it should help.

Next, try tossing in a different, thinner liner to see if it helps gain you some volume. A more traditional liner will be thinner and this could be the solution for you before having to give up and go with a different boot.

 

[OhJay]

Thanks nerdy,

I didn't think of grinding the bootboard down even though I'd heard about that before to remedy instep issues. Just to clarify, I'm not having any instep pain, it's just the cable length fell short of being able to buckle down.

I tested out the bootboard grind option by just trying on the boot without the stock insole (roughly 1-1.5 mm thick) and was able to just get the instep to buckle. Coupled with baking the liner, I'm hoping this will suffice.

However, I think my first option will be to see if I can get a longer cable. The shop I ordered from was already willing to order tongues for me once Dalbello got more parts in closer to the Winter season.

I think these options will be enough for me to keep the boot. I also have a pair of Nordica GPX on me at the moment I was going back and forth on, but think I'll return the GPX. I like the Intuitions too much on the Kryptons along with the much firmer/snug fit I can get around my calves.

 

[f100prerunner]

Looking for opinions. Ive got a skinny ankle/heel and wider forefoot. This last season I was fit for a Lange xt110 and long story short both my toe nails are now gone and I would get some strong pain after skiing for several days. I was fit by my forefoot and not heel and am now in too big of a boot is what I have found. I do feel like this foot fit well however it is too loose in general throughout it. Any recommendations on a better fitting boot before I head into a more experienced one? I am thinking maybe the lv xt130 and atomic hawx, any other ideas?

**This post was edited on Jul 1st 2018 at 12:44:05pm

 

[onenerdykid]

Looking for opinions. Ive got a skinny ankle/heel and wider forefoot. This last season I was fit for a Lange xt110 and long story short both my toe nails are now gone and I would get some strong pain after skiing for several days. I was fit by my forefoot and not heel and am not in too big of a boot. I do feel like this foot fit well however it was too loose in general throughout it. Any recommendations on a better fitting boot before I head into a more experienced one? I am thinking maybe the lv xt130 and atomic hawx, any other ideas?

Do you have custom footbeds?

 

[f100prerunner]

Do you have custom footbeds?

Custom no however I do have a reputable brands footbed, can’t thing of the brand as of now. They’re the green ones haha

 

[onenerdykid]

Custom no however I do have a reputable brands footbed, can’t thing of the brand as of now. They’re the green ones haha

Most likely Superfeet. While a known brand, I've seen them do as much harm as they do good, so it is best to upgrade into something more betterer. These footbeds will not support you well enough and (depending on your foot) can lead to fit issues.

As for boots, you should spend more time researching who are the good boot-fitters in your area or where you will be skiing. Don't get fixated on a brand, just find the best boot-fitter- the better the fitter, the higher the chances of the boot matching your foot shape, and that is the ultimate answer for you.

 

[Rparr]

Custom no however I do have a reputable brands footbed, can’t thing of the brand as of now. They’re the green ones haha

Nerdykid is right, non custom footbeds often make people’s feet hurt. They certainly did for mine, including super feet. Custom footbeds are worth every penny if they’re going into a relatively new boot

 

[f100prerunner]

Nerdykid is right, non custom footbeds often make people’s feet hurt. They certainly did for mine, including super feet. Custom footbeds are worth every penny if they’re going into a relatively new boot

My feet hurting isn’t the problem it’s the fact the boots too big and I have it buckled overly tight and I still lose both toenails

 

[onenerdykid]

My feet hurting isn’t the problem it’s the fact the boots too big and I have it buckled overly tight and I still lose both toenails

If your boot truly is a size too big, then yes that is a bad spot to be in. But one of the things a custom footbed will always do better than a stock footbed is hold your foot in the back of the shell so your toes can't slide forward into the front. Just one thing to remember.

 

[xxACIDTRIPxx]

Got some issues:

Bought a pair of Nordica speed machines, the bootfitter is dope so there is no problems on his behalf.

First day skiing, was fine asides from problem with callousing on my little toes. Due to collapsed arches making my feet wider than they are. The guy already sussed me out with foot beds, so this time he blew out the toe area. Problem solved

I had problems with burning arches, but that disappeared as I grew in to the boots.

Now, the main problem I have is, on my right foot. At the bony point up from my big toe - on the top of my foot (I think it's called the cuneiform bone) when there is downward pressure like on the chairlift it hurts like a bitch. Is there anything I can do to alleviate this?

TLDR Pain on my top bone of foot, want it fixed without sacrificing how tight I can crank my boots

 

[profa_212]

Got some issues:

Bought a pair of Nordica speed machines, the bootfitter is dope so there is no problems on his behalf.

First day skiing, was fine asides from problem with callousing on my little toes. Due to collapsed arches making my feet wider than they are. The guy already sussed me out with foot beds, so this time he blew out the toe area. Problem solved

I had problems with burning arches, but that disappeared as I grew in to the boots.

Now, the main problem I have is, on my right foot. At the bony point up from my big toe - on the top of my foot (I think it's called the cuneiform bone) when there is downward pressure like on the chairlift it hurts like a bitch. Is there anything I can do to alleviate this?

TLDR Pain on my top bone of foot, want it fixed without sacrificing how tight I can crank my boots

Are you unbuckling when you hop on the lift?

 

[xxACIDTRIPxx]

Are you unbuckling when you hop on the lift?

Fuck.... nah.

I didn't know that was a thing, I never really thought about doing that. I'll try it and hopefully it should alleviate the problem

 

[onenerdykid]

Fuck.... nah.

I didn't know that was a thing, I never really thought about doing that. I'll try it and hopefully it should alleviate the problem

I find it's always a good idea to relax the buckles on the lift ride back up. Not only will this alleviate pressure points, but also allow blood to more easily flow to your toes, helping to keep you warmer.

But if this doesn't work, your boot-fitter can lower the boot board slightly and create a bit more volume for your instep. I would still encourage popping the buckles on the lift after you get this (potentially) done.

 

[BrawnTrends]

I find it's always a good idea to relax the buckles on the lift ride back up. Not only will this alleviate pressure points, but also allow blood to more easily flow to your toes, helping to keep you warmer.

Even when the boots fit perfectly? I never do that...

 

[onenerdykid]

Even when the boots fit perfectly? I never do that...

If you easily get cold feet (like me) it's always a good idea. It just ensures you are getting the most blood to your toes.

 

[Rparr]

Even when the boots fit perfectly? I never do that...

my boots fit perfectly and I still do this almost every lift ride because I find hiking rails makes my feet hurt without fail

 

[civic1500]

Did anyone try molding head form fit boots, like thrashers? Tried them on, they feel pretty nice but there is a pressure point on the shin on the side of liners tongue. Would forming them help this?

 

[onenerdykid]

Did anyone try molding head form fit boots, like thrashers? Tried them on, they feel pretty nice but there is a pressure point on the shin on the side of liners tongue. Would forming them help this?

First - did you try them on with a footbed? Quite often, without a footbed, your leg rotates due to ankle pronation and can put your leg in a funny spot on the tongue. Definitely make sure to do this before you rule it out or go for it.

 

[BrawnTrends]

I had the Head Thrashers, couldn't ski them because the tongues were digging into my shins. No heat molding, insoles, pads or anything could alleviate the pain.

 

[civic1500]

Thank you. I tried them on only in the shop yet, didn't do any bootfitting stuff. I plan to make custom footbeds anyway for my new boots, so I will leave the molding as the last option if the problem stays.

 

[BrawnTrends]

Thank you. I tried them on only in the shop yet, didn't do any bootfitting stuff. I plan to make custom footbeds anyway for my new boots, so I will leave the molding as the last option if the problem stays.

Mine were actually pretty comfy the first time I tried them on. The problem only started after a couple of hours on the mountain.

 

[slurm]

Hey NS,

3 Seasons ago I was fitted for some Atomic Live Fit 100s and over time have discovered a few shortcomings with the fit. The first season they were like a dream, I was a fairly casual skier but they were comfy to cop all day was happy with the fit. Keeping in mind, I was cruising groomers all day. The past two seasons however, I am finding a few issues with their performance in regards to my progression as I begin to hit the harder slopes, send jumps and traverse through tight tree sections.

1. I am getting heavy toe bang on landings and through bumpy sections.

2. Although my bindings are tight, at faster speeds it's becoming hard to keep my skis parallel. Even though my knees and feet are locked, On the odd occasion my skis cross and I'm unsure its whether there is too much play in the front of my boots.

3. A few recent stacks I have felt my foot and ankle more significantly in my boot, likely due to higher impact.

3. On trying to solve both of the above, I have cranked down the toe buckle to the point where I cannot walk after session due to intense pain.

I have found limited info on the net regarding this boot, but have been told they are a good boot for the 'once a year' skier. As I get more involved and head out every week or so, should i invest in a new pair of boots? The Live Fits only have 2 buckles, so could its limited tightness setting be holding me back? The season here in Aus is about to wrap up and am happy to invest in a dope pair for next season but wanted some advice before I do so!

A few specs if it matters,

height: 5:8

weight: 165

skill: Between a 2 and a 3 all mountain, but going to try learn park next season.

sticks: line chronic 2019

 

[onenerdykid]

Hey NS,

3 Seasons ago I was fitted for some Atomic Live Fit 100s and over time have discovered a few shortcomings with the fit. The first season they were like a dream, I was a fairly casual skier but they were comfy to cop all day was happy with the fit. Keeping in mind, I was cruising groomers all day. The past two seasons however, I am finding a few issues with their performance in regards to my progression as I begin to hit the harder slopes, send jumps and traverse through tight tree sections.

1. I am getting heavy toe bang on landings and through bumpy sections.

2. Although my bindings are tight, at faster speeds it's becoming hard to keep my skis parallel. Even though my knees and feet are locked, On the odd occasion my skis cross and I'm unsure its whether there is too much play in the front of my boots.

3. A few recent stacks I have felt my foot and ankle more significantly in my boot, likely due to higher impact.

3. On trying to solve both of the above, I have cranked down the toe buckle to the point where I cannot walk after session due to intense pain.

I have found limited info on the net regarding this boot, but have been told they are a good boot for the 'once a year' skier. As I get more involved and head out every week or so, should i invest in a new pair of boots? The Live Fits only have 2 buckles, so could its limited tightness setting be holding me back? The season here in Aus is about to wrap up and am happy to invest in a dope pair for next season but wanted some advice before I do so!

A few specs if it matters,

height: 5:8

weight: 165

skill: Between a 2 and a 3 all mountain, but going to try learn park next season.

sticks: line chronic 2019

Boot sounds like it is simply too big for you and/or wrong shape for your foot. The number of buckles is semi-irrelevant (the most popular park boot of all time was the SPK with 2 buckles) and the most important aspects of a good fit is to make sure the shape of the boot is right for your foot shape and to always buy a supportive footbed in addition to the boot purchase.

This is what you do:

1. Research in your area (or where you will be skiing) which shops are the best boot-fitters

2. Call them and make an appointment (budget at least 1 hour, maybe 2)

3. Trust their boot recommendation that is based on your foot shape, budget, and footbed needs.

4. Enjoy the best boot for you, for all types of skiing.

FYI- at this time of the year, shops do not have all boot options in stock. Some things are sold out already, so you might not find the ideal solution for your needs. Your best bet is do this in the beginning of the year when all options are available.

 

[f100prerunner]

Hey NS,

3 Seasons ago I was fitted for some Atomic Live Fit 100s and over time have discovered a few shortcomings with the fit. The first season they were like a dream, I was a fairly casual skier but they were comfy to cop all day was happy with the fit. Keeping in mind, I was cruising groomers all day. The past two seasons however, I am finding a few issues with their performance in regards to my progression as I begin to hit the harder slopes, send jumps and traverse through tight tree sections.

1. I am getting heavy toe bang on landings and through bumpy sections.

2. Although my bindings are tight, at faster speeds it's becoming hard to keep my skis parallel. Even though my knees and feet are locked, On the odd occasion my skis cross and I'm unsure its whether there is too much play in the front of my boots.

3. A few recent stacks I have felt my foot and ankle more significantly in my boot, likely due to higher impact.

3. On trying to solve both of the above, I have cranked down the toe buckle to the point where I cannot walk after session due to intense pain.

I have found limited info on the net regarding this boot, but have been told they are a good boot for the 'once a year' skier. As I get more involved and head out every week or so, should i invest in a new pair of boots? The Live Fits only have 2 buckles, so could its limited tightness setting be holding me back? The season here in Aus is about to wrap up and am happy to invest in a dope pair for next season but wanted some advice before I do so!

A few specs if it matters,

height: 5:8

weight: 165

skill: Between a 2 and a 3 all mountain, but going to try learn park next season.

sticks: line chronic 2019

What the above guy said, make sure to get fit by your ankle not your forefoot (if you have a skinny ankle you need a skinny boot). If your boots are good fitting your liners could also just be packed out too.

 

[FruitBootPro]

I currently have Atomic Hawx Magna 110s and last season I tried to learn nosebutters, but couldn't because my heel kept coming up in the boot instead of me flexing my ski on the ground. This is with Line Blends that are 176cm, and I'm 6' tall and 196lbs. There is no reason I should not be able to flex these skis, aside from the fact that my boots don't fit. My shoe size is 11.5 or so and I can't figure out the boot size. I talked to my local ski shop manager about it and he said that they could put shims in the bottom of the boots. Does this sound alright, or should buy new boots?

 

[onenerdykid]

I currently have Atomic Hawx Magna 110s and last season I tried to learn nosebutters, but couldn't because my heel kept coming up in the boot instead of me flexing my ski on the ground. This is with Line Blends that are 176cm, and I'm 6' tall and 196lbs. There is no reason I should not be able to flex these skis, aside from the fact that my boots don't fit. My shoe size is 11.5 or so and I can't figure out the boot size. I talked to my local ski shop manager about it and he said that they could put shims in the bottom of the boots. Does this sound alright, or should buy new boots?

Hawx Magna is a very wide, high volume boot. If your foot is narrower and/or lower volume, it can move around as you described even if it's the right size for you.

First, let's do this:

1. Remove the liner from the shell

2. Step into the shell with a very thin sock on

3. Slide your foot to the front of the shell so your toes just barely touch

4. Measure the space behind your heel: 1cm (finger tip) = super high performance fit, 2cm (1.5 fingers) = normal, 3cm (3 fingers) = way too big

Report back with your findings.

 

[histonskiah]

Found a good deal on 26.5 krypton pros at my local shop that I want cause Im looking to try to fit into a smaller boot. My main concern is that the stiffness is not enough because Im in 130 kryptons right now and I dont want any less flex than those. I will put the stiffer B tongue on them and also probably a stiffer intuition liner ("pro wrap" probably for the extra room and stiffness). Does anyone know if it is a softer plastic that gives it the 120 flex or will I be able to make it the same stiffness with these upgrades. Thanks!

 

[SkiAddiction]

anyway to fix a boot that is too big length wise other than buying new boots?

The real answer is no but if new boots aren't in the budget there are a couple of volume reducing fixes: shimming under the footbed, x-cages (foam in the shape of an X that pushes the foot forward and locks the heal down, aftermarket foot beds with more volume than the stock ones. Disclaimer** boots that fit are the best and sometimes the bandaid fixes cost more in wasted hill time and pfaffing around than they're worth.

 

[Pataguccimane]

Anybody have experience with technical CAS system (both shell and liner)? I was fitted in some medium volume Mach 1 130s two seasons ago at a local shop. For the first season they were alright but packed out funny and gave me pain on the bottom of my foot in the forefoot area and were fairly cold. Ended up riding some pinnacle 130s last season with some new footbeds and always told myself I would go back to my Mach 1s but my pinnacles fit so well and were nice and toasty for the remainder of the season

However, coming into this season I’m thinking about giving the Mach 1s another try since I was initially fitted for them so my dilemma is as follows: should I keep riding them and hope they pack out more and my new footbed might correct the issues I’m having or should I go into the shop and see what can be done and what I’ll be looking at as far as what’s going to be done. I’ve heard a heel punch and some slight work in the forefoot is standard. I’m not a bootfitter and don’t have immediate access to a bootfitter hence why I’m here asking about what the issue is/what the course of action should be.

 

[onenerdykid]

However, coming into this season I’m thinking about giving the Mach 1s another try since I was initially fitted for them so my dilemma is as follows: should I keep riding them and hope they pack out more and my new footbed might correct the issues I’m having or should I go into the shop and see what can be done and what I’ll be looking at as far as what’s going to be done. I’ve heard a heel punch and some slight work in the forefoot is standard. I’m not a bootfitter and don’t have immediate access to a bootfitter hence why I’m here asking about what the issue is/what the course of action should be.

Your new footbed will for sure help the issue you were feeling under the foot, so definitely do that.

After that, you should just take them back into the shop for a re-fit. Sounds like the shell needs a bit of a stretch/grind in spots.

 

[Pataguccimane]

Your new footbed will for sure help the issue you were feeling under the foot, so definitely do that.

After that, you should just take them back into the shop for a re-fit. Sounds like the shell needs a bit of a stretch/grind in spots.

Rad

Ya the new footbed should help but I’m definitely leaning toward taking them in for a re-fit.

thanks one nerdy!!

 

[Oceanic1]

Hi Onenerdykid,

Do the World Cup skiers use modified versions of the Redster WCs that you sell? Or do you have a different mold that you use to make 'plug' boots for the WC athletes? No particular reason for asking, I'm just being a geek.

 

[Grincho]

It's hard to find good boot-fitters in Europe, even in Austria. It's far too touristy and the shops never see the customers again. They therefore don't need to deal with their customer's problems...

Anyway, if you can't make it further into the Alps then you'll be out of luck. There are zero good boot-fitters in a place like Vienna. You'll need to wait until you go on holiday (if that's possible) to large ski-destination area and research which shops in that area are good at this. Make an appointment with them and spend the day or at least half day there getting it all done.

I can most certainly guarantee you that your current boots are too big. In fact, I would be a lot of money on it. And you will always have problems in a boot that is too big. So, be aware that you might be buying new boots too.

This may be a long shot, but are you ever in the UK or Switzerland? The UK has WAY better boot-fitters than most of mainland Europe ever will. There are also some great fitters in Switzerland (like Heierling in Davos).

Hey Onenerdykid,

Many thanks for your reply and all the info! Finally I made an appointment to Heierling and will be off to Davos in two weeks. I hope everything will go well and I’m looking forward to the new era of my skiing

Juraj

 

[onenerdykid]

Hi Onenerdykid,

Do the World Cup skiers use modified versions of the Redster WCs that you sell? Or do you have a different mold that you use to make 'plug' boots for the WC athletes? No particular reason for asking, I'm just being a geek.

Our Redster World Cup boot is the exact mold, last, and plastic that is primarily used by our World Cup athletes. Like any top-level race-sport (F1, MotoGP, UCI World Cup, etc.) the racers will often use prototype or some kind of weirdness that is not available to the public. A lot of experimenting is continually happening and that eventually makes its way to what is commercially available. But, to be crystal clear, the current WC 170 is the basis for our men's program.

 

[tsingtaofanatic]

This thread should be seen as an accompaniment to the "How To Buy Ski Boots" thread, more specifically aimed at solving a problem with your existing ski boots. Rather than clog up Gear Talk with countless repeating threads, please dump your boot-fitting related questions here and we will do our best to help you out.

Remember, nothing is a substitute for going to a real boot-fitter; they can see your foot, we can't. So if you can't get to a boot-fitter, or are frustrated with your current one, we can help point you in the right direction. Try to be as descriptive of your problem as possible and post pics if you can. The more information we get from you, the more successful we will hopefully be in helping you out.

Ready, set, go.

I got these new full tilt boots because my old boots were second hand, super shitty, and always gave me a skiers toe.

I've been riding and walking in these full tilts for a bit. when i was buying them and testing them out, they were fine. When i started doing shit in them, my shins were getting fucked. The pain is unbearable, like having a constant cramp in your shins. I don't know wtf is wrong with it. Please help out

 

[profa_212]

I got these new full tilt boots because my old boots were second hand, super shitty, and always gave me a skiers toe.

I've been riding and walking in these full tilts for a bit. when i was buying them and testing them out, they were fine. When i started doing shit in them, my shins were getting fucked. The pain is unbearable, like having a constant cramp in your shins. I don't know wtf is wrong with it. Please help out

Sounds like shin bang. Means the boots dont fit. Go to a bootfitter and see what you can do.

 

[tsingtaofanatic]

Sounds like shin bang. Means the boots dont fit. Go to a bootfitter and see what you can do.

Thanks for the advice!

 

[profa_212]

Thanks for the advice!

Do you have footbed? Booster straps can help ass well.

 

[tsingtaofanatic]

Do you have footbed? Booster straps can help ass well.

No I don't think so. I will check it out though this weekend though

 

[OhJay]

Just to clarify, you’re getting cramps along the shin and not shin bang? FWIW You might want to check out blistergears review on a pair of Dalbello Kryptons from a while back. Someone mentions of similar pain in their full tilts in the comments section, and sounds like ppl either just have it or they don't.
http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/dalbello-kr-two-pro

I like my first chair 10s and fortunately never had that pain, but I hope something does the trick for you.

 

[dsnyd22]

Question - I recently got full tilt descendants because of my wider foot. yes I got fitted and yes I did heat mold however after hour of using it is still just barely too tight from the shell on the sides of my feet. Does anyone know if you can stretch that boot to allow a tad more room. Curious if anyone else has had the issue. I was optimistic with these because until the descendants I could not wear FTs due to my wide foots size.. any input would be appreciated.

 

[OhJay]

dsnyd22 - do you have any sort of aftermarket foot beds in? If not, you might want to throw some in first to see if it helps; the support will prevent your foot from splaying to a degree, which kay or may not help.

If you’re still getting pain with footbrds, then it’s time to see the bootfitter, they’ll be able to punch out the problem areas. Even then, I’d leave the footbeds in. The increase in response I got in my First Chairs was night and day, which made sense with all that foam at the bottom of the liner.