The Official: "What is wrong with my boots?" Thread

13751166:lucasskier4835 said:
Is there anything i could do toa too small boot or do i have to get new ones
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Depends on the boot & liner. If the plastic quality of the boots is high enough, they can easily be lengthened a solid 5mm or more. It then depends on your liner if it can expand forward into the lengthened area. Intuition liners or ones with stretch toe boxes should easily be able to do this.
 
So I put my new custom footbeds in my "old" boots (they're actually not that old, skied 30 something days in them) and everything is great except that after 3 hours of skiing yesterday I had pretty bad shinbang.

Never happened before in these boots.

Is that a posture problem because I'm not used of the new position the footbeds are putting my body in? I didn't get the liner re-molded, but the boots feel perfectly comfortable, and besides the shinbang I don't have any other pressure point or anything like that.

I'm planning on getting new boots later in the season. I tried on the Atomic Hawx Ultra 110 a couple of weeks ago and they felt absolutely perfect on my feet. But in the mean time is there anything I can do to alleviate that shin problem?
 
13752567:BrawnTrends said:
I'm planning on getting new boots later in the season. I tried on the Atomic Hawx Ultra 110 a couple of weeks ago and they felt absolutely perfect on my feet. But in the mean time is there anything I can do to alleviate that shin problem?
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Nope- you need to go buy the Hawx Ultra 110 immediately. Just kidding. While that would be a rad boot for you, you should get your existing liners remolded. The new footbed will reposition your foot, ankle, and leg into a new spot in the liner. Quite often, your shin bone will sit slightly differently compared to how it sat before, which is how it broke in your liner tongue. Getting the liners remolded will at least position the tongue correctly on your shin and you should be good to go.
 
Just needing some guidance on what i should be doing with my current scenario. Currently i am riding in atomic hawx 110 heat molded once bought brand new from a boot fitter and i am 6'3 180-190lbs. I recently came to the conclusion that my boots may be too big (a few months ago) as last year when pressing or buttering the liner would slide in the boot, however, i have started keeping my boots strapped insanely tight when i am not using them and this issue seems to have dissapeared but other issues still remain. When hitting any size drop over 3ish feet (sometimes to flat but also sometimes to inclined landings) my foot slams forward in my boot and i get some pretty bad toebang. Ive tried fixing this by tightening the upper area of the boot but any tighter and i start loosing feeling in my leg (the only thing in the boot is my foot, my ski socks and my extremely thin full length underwear. Lastly the instep on my one boot seems to give me tremendous pain if i ski more than one day and it generally hurts most on the chairlift, not when im standing. I do not have custom footbeds but my liner was heatmolded once when i bought the boot about a year ago.
 
13754115:SKRockies said:
Just needing some guidance on what i should be doing with my current scenario. Currently i am riding in atomic hawx 110 heat molded once bought brand new from a boot fitter and i am 6'3 180-190lbs. I recently came to the conclusion that my boots may be too big (a few months ago) as last year when pressing or buttering the liner would slide in the boot, however, i have started keeping my boots strapped insanely tight when i am not using them and this issue seems to have dissapeared but other issues still remain. When hitting any size drop over 3ish feet (sometimes to flat but also sometimes to inclined landings) my foot slams forward in my boot and i get some pretty bad toebang. Ive tried fixing this by tightening the upper area of the boot but any tighter and i start loosing feeling in my leg (the only thing in the boot is my foot, my ski socks and my extremely thin full length underwear. Lastly the instep on my one boot seems to give me tremendous pain if i ski more than one day and it generally hurts most on the chairlift, not when im standing. I do not have custom footbeds but my liner was heatmolded once when i bought the boot about a year ago.
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I would go to the local shop, have them measure your foot and then just see from there. Its rare for the fitter to sell to large boots but its happened to me tho.
 
13754115:SKRockies said:
I do not have custom footbeds but my liner was heatmolded once when i bought the boot about a year ago.
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This is the first obvious contributing factor to your discomfort. Without a footbed, your foot will flex and twist inside the shell and slide back and forth. Toe bang, shin bang, you buckling your boot overly tight in order to hold your foot... all solved with a proper footbed.

The other could be the size- it does sound kind of big and/or too high volume for your foot. Do this test: remove the liner, step into the bare shell with a thin ski sock on, slide your foot to the front of the shell so your toes just barely touch, and measure the gap behind your heel. 1cm = performance fit, 2cm = normal, 3cm = too big and a problem.

Report back what you find out.
 
So last year I went into slopestyle and transitioned from a pair of 28.5 SPK's to 27.5 full tilt classics because one of the workers in slopestyle at breck was confident in downsizing was the smart thing to do. I literally destroyed my toes and thought maybe I just needed a footbed with mold. So I got the footbed done at a very reputable shop with a bootfitter who's been in the game for 25+ years. He told me the boot may be too small and asked me where I purchased the boots from. But he tried his best in making sure my toes weren't getting banged up. After the footbed my toe bang decreased slightly but it's still bad, these boots are clearly too small. I'm questioning on going into slopestyle and accusing them of selling me a size too small of ski boot. Is this a fair accusation I can make?
 
13755301:Film. said:
So last year I went into slopestyle and transitioned from a pair of 28.5 SPK's to 27.5 full tilt classics because one of the workers in slopestyle at breck was confident in downsizing was the smart thing to do. I literally destroyed my toes and thought maybe I just needed a footbed with mold. So I got the footbed done at a very reputable shop with a bootfitter who's been in the game for 25+ years. He told me the boot may be too small and asked me where I purchased the boots from. But he tried his best in making sure my toes weren't getting banged up. After the footbed my toe bang decreased slightly but it's still bad, these boots are clearly too small. I'm questioning on going into slopestyle and accusing them of selling me a size too small of ski boot. Is this a fair accusation I can make?
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SPK and a full tilt classic are completely different boots. One is a wider last...(102or104?) And the classic is rather skinny at 99...along with other differences....but idk who would think you would fit in a full tilt after feeling fine in an spk
 
13755400:Profahoben_212 said:
SPK and a full tilt classic are completely different boots. One is a wider last...(102or104?) And the classic is rather skinny at 99...along with other differences....but idk who would think you would fit in a full tilt after feeling fine in an spk
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It has nothing to do with the width of the boot. The bootfitter actually told me my foot width was fine for the classic. But the length of my foot is what's getting to me. Any time I don't land perfectly on my palms of my feet my toes are slamming into the front of the boot. They are touching the front of the boot at all times. Downsizing me from the 28.5 to 27.5 was the problem.
 
13755456:Film. said:
It has nothing to do with the width of the boot. The bootfitter actually told me my foot width was fine for the classic. But the length of my foot is what's getting to me. Any time I don't land perfectly on my palms of my feet my toes are slamming into the front of the boot. They are touching the front of the boot at all times. Downsizing me from the 28.5 to 27.5 was the problem.
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Normally shops have some sort of "fit guarantee" and I'm sure Slopestyle has something along those lines. You should go back in and speak to either the fitter or the manager and CALMLY explain your situation. You won't get anywhere by demanding some kind of compensation or refund or exchange. But if you are nice and calm, the odds are greatly in your favor. They want you stoked on the store and spreading the good word about their shop and if you work with them on a solution, I'm sure it will work out for you.
 
13755465:onenerdykid said:
Normally shops have some sort of "fit guarantee" and I'm sure Slopestyle has something along those lines. You should go back in and speak to either the fitter or the manager and CALMLY explain your situation. You won't get anywhere by demanding some kind of compensation or refund or exchange. But if you are nice and calm, the odds are greatly in your favor. They want you stoked on the store and spreading the good word about their shop and if you work with them on a solution, I'm sure it will work out for you.
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Yea I wasn't planning on going into the shop guns blazing mainly because I want to go back and buy more gear from them for sure. I just wanted to check and make sure I wasn't being a dick by even asking them about possibly selling me a boot too small.
 
my buckles on my fairly new but heavily used RX130's are starting to fall apart on me. Nothings fallen off yet but you can definitely tell they're wonky. I have another set that is a size smaller (25.5) and was wondering it would be easy to take the buckles off of those ones and put them on my other ones, or have a shop tech do it.
 
13759448:DeebieSkeebies said:
my buckles on my fairly new but heavily used RX130's are starting to fall apart on me. Nothings fallen off yet but you can definitely tell they're wonky. I have another set that is a size smaller (25.5) and was wondering it would be easy to take the buckles off of those ones and put them on my other ones, or have a shop tech do it.
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should be real easy...just a couple screws.
 
So I have a pair of K2 Spyne 110's, overall they seem to fit fine, but I still keep getting pretty bad shin bang even when Im not landing backseat. I don't have custom insoles but i do have aftermarket surefeet ones that were a huge improvement from the stock ones.

So obviously a pair of custom insoles would help, but i was wondering if the cuff length of these boots could have anything to do with it? The spyne cuff is shorter then most boots I've ever looked at and I have pretty long legs. I have heard similar complaints as well about the cuff being short. Could this be the cause of shinbang?
 
13759548:tac0.slayer said:
So I have a pair of K2 Spyne 110's, overall they seem to fit fine, but I still keep getting pretty bad shin bang even when Im not landing backseat. I don't have custom insoles but i do have aftermarket surefeet ones that were a huge improvement from the stock ones.

So obviously a pair of custom insoles would help, but i was wondering if the cuff length of these boots could have anything to do with it? The spyne cuff is shorter then most boots I've ever looked at and I have pretty long legs. I have heard similar complaints as well about the cuff being short. Could this be the cause of shinbang?
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I hate it when cuffs are too low- it can really cause some issues. In addition to the lack of a custom footbed, the cuff and liner tongue might simply be the wrong shape & height for your leg. If this is actually the case, then yes the very cuff/liner might be contributing to your shinbang.

Are you in a size bigger than 28?
 
13759577:onenerdykid said:
I hate it when cuffs are too low- it can really cause some issues. In addition to the lack of a custom footbed, the cuff and liner tongue might simply be the wrong shape & height for your leg. If this is actually the case, then yes the very cuff/liner might be contributing to your shinbang.

Are you in a size bigger than 28?
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No my boots are a 26.5. I'm thinking I should eventually get a custom footbed. It just sucks because even though the boots seem to fit good I keep thinking they would be better if they were taller
 
I have Full Tilts, and I am pretty sure that they are fitted properly but my right foot always gets more cramped and is more uncomfortable than my left. I don't think that my right foot is wider than my left or anything like that. Any ideas?
 
Does anyone else with Salomon Quest boots find it extremely hard to get into them?

I'm a pretty light dude, usually 135-140 lbs, and I'm skiing the 130s. They are fully fitted and a pretty race-y fit as well. I put them in walk mode and even then it feels like my foot is gonna fucking break trying to get my instep past the overlap. Even at room temp it's a hassle, and when they are cold it's like a 5 minute ordeal of yelling and jumping on one foot and flinging my leg around like a goon.

Trying to spread the shell is kinda tricky and the last pair I had I cracked the shell spreading them in the cold so i'm kinda scared of them in that way.

I'm gonna be in the town of my bootfitter in a couple weeks and was wondering if there would be anything he could do to modify the boot and make it easier but not affect the flex of the boot.
 
This is not a "what is wrong my my boots" but It doesn't require a new thread either.

I've recently purchased a new pair of boots and been into the shop a few times to punch it out. In reality all they did were grind down the liner (which were good since I live close to the shop and rather fix a little more times than doing something drastic and perhaps ruin the boot). However I were there to pick them up after they were punched out, and now they wanted me to pay for it. After a bunch of argumentation I got my boots for only the price of me feeling like a dick.

I've bought from the same store before (in another country tho), and then we punched my last boot out like 3-4times, all included in the price of the boot. My feet looks like vulcanos and I ski a 100+ days every year so I guess I can be a pain in the ass for a bootfitter.

I'm guess it matters from shop to shop but what can a customer call for in terms of bootfitting (included in the price of the boot)? Am I in the wrong that It should be included in the purchase of the boot?

Thanks in advance.
 
My feet are symmetrical and yes both boots are the same size but for some reason when I put on my boots the right one fits way tighter than the left, almost too tight...
 
My feet are symmetrical and yes both boots are the same size but for some reason when I put on my boots the right one fits way tighter than the left, almost too tight...
 
13761735:yzzid said:
My feet are symmetrical and yes both boots are the same size but for some reason when I put on my boots the right one fits way tighter than the left, almost too tight...
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I know you clearly stated that your feet are symmetrical, but have you or your fitter verified this (length, last, instep, arch, etc.)? Does it fit tighter immediately or after wearing them for a bit?
 
13760664:No.Quarter said:
Does anyone else with Salomon Quest boots find it extremely hard to get into them?

I'm a pretty light dude, usually 135-140 lbs, and I'm skiing the 130s. They are fully fitted and a pretty race-y fit as well. I put them in walk mode and even then it feels like my foot is gonna fucking break trying to get my instep past the overlap. Even at room temp it's a hassle, and when they are cold it's like a 5 minute ordeal of yelling and jumping on one foot and flinging my leg around like a goon.

Trying to spread the shell is kinda tricky and the last pair I had I cracked the shell spreading them in the cold so i'm kinda scared of them in that way.

I'm gonna be in the town of my bootfitter in a couple weeks and was wondering if there would be anything he could do to modify the boot and make it easier but not affect the flex of the boot.
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Have you tried a boot horn?
 
13761870:YourXXXLIsDumb said:
I know you clearly stated that your feet are symmetrical, but have you or your fitter verified this (length, last, instep, arch, etc.)? Does it fit tighter immediately or after wearing them for a bit?
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Immediately. But I went in today and they removed a piece of plastic that covers the top of the foot and it's more comfortable :D
 
Got a new pair of boots, custom fitted, heat molded, the whole shebang for comp season last year, broke them in, and no matter what i do, heel lifts, remolding, etc. my arches burn to no end. I lift and work out every other day, so it isn't a weakness factor, I don't know what to do.
 
13762134:WPMatt said:
Got a new pair of boots, custom fitted, heat molded, the whole shebang for comp season last year, broke them in, and no matter what i do, heel lifts, remolding, etc. my arches burn to no end. I lift and work out every other day, so it isn't a weakness factor, I don't know what to do.
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Sounds like it's time for a second opinion. Go to "find a fitter" on the Americas Best Bootfitters site. Find one near you and schedule an appointment.
 
Got some Dalbello Avanti's last year and am very happy with them except for one thing. They seem to put pressure somewhere that makes my pinkie toes numb. Obviously not a painful thing but very weird when wiggling your toes around. What sort of thing can I do to stop this? I also got inserts for them
 
I've been getting some really bad toe bang from my boots. I've been to a boot fitter who said the boots are the right size and I got some foot beds to stop and sliding of my foot. My toenails are kept relatively short, and the toe bang is just as bad as ever. Any advice??
 
13763696:skiguy190 said:
I've been getting some really bad toe bang from my boots. I've been to a boot fitter who said the boots are the right size and I got some foot beds to stop and sliding of my foot. My toenails are kept relatively short, and the toe bang is just as bad as ever. Any advice??
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Cut off the toe of another sock and slide it over your ski sock, then spend some time in the boots or skiing. If your foot feels fine at the end of the day your boots are probably to big. When you are in the boots and stand up straight where are your toes in relation to the toe of the boot? Make sure your heel is all the way back. Buckle your second buckle from the top and flex hard a few times before buckling the top two buckles. Don't just sit there slamming my your heel on the ground.
 
13762336:Chubbs. said:
Got some Dalbello Avanti's last year and am very happy with them except for one thing. They seem to put pressure somewhere that makes my pinkie toes numb. Obviously not a painful thing but very weird when wiggling your toes around. What sort of thing can I do to stop this? I also got inserts for them
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This could be a few things. Is your pinky toe cramped in the toe of the boot? Take the liner out and slide your foot into the shell. Is your pinky to up against the shell? If so, you may need to heat up the liner. If that doesn't fix the issue you can have the toe punched.

If your toes are fine in the boot it could be that your foot is being compressed around the 5th metatarsal base. If that is the case try leaving your bottom buckles unbuckled and see if anything changes. If not you can pad the area and cook the liner.
 
13762336:Chubbs. said:
Got some Dalbello Avanti's last year and am very happy with them except for one thing. They seem to put pressure somewhere that makes my pinkie toes numb. Obviously not a painful thing but very weird when wiggling your toes around. What sort of thing can I do to stop this? I also got inserts for them
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Just noticed you got inserts. Did that raise your foot in the boot? If so this could be your issue.
 
13760781:Hogis said:
This is not a "what is wrong my my boots" but It doesn't require a new thread either.

I've recently purchased a new pair of boots and been into the shop a few times to punch it out. In reality all they did were grind down the liner (which were good since I live close to the shop and rather fix a little more times than doing something drastic and perhaps ruin the boot). However I were there to pick them up after they were punched out, and now they wanted me to pay for it. After a bunch of argumentation I got my boots for only the price of me feeling like a dick.

I've bought from the same store before (in another country tho), and then we punched my last boot out like 3-4times, all included in the price of the boot. My feet looks like vulcanos and I ski a 100+ days every year so I guess I can be a pain in the ass for a bootfitter.

I'm guess it matters from shop to shop but what can a customer call for in terms of bootfitting (included in the price of the boot)? Am I in the wrong that It should be included in the purchase of the boot?

Thanks in advance.
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So if I understand you correctly, they performed boot work that you didn't ask for or approve of? They punched the boots when you didn't want them punched? Or they are charging you for the service when you thought it was included in the boot price?

Not all shops have the same fitting policy, so you need to make sure you understand the agreement before entering into it.
 
13762134:WPMatt said:
Got a new pair of boots, custom fitted, heat molded, the whole shebang for comp season last year, broke them in, and no matter what i do, heel lifts, remolding, etc. my arches burn to no end. I lift and work out every other day, so it isn't a weakness factor, I don't know what to do.
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You didn't specifically say it, so do you have custom footbeds? Not having these can lead to exactly your problem.

If you do have them, are also wearing footbeds in your normal shoes? This is very important to do as well.

Also, are the boots stiff enough for you? Over-flexing a boot combined with a limited ankle range of motion leads to heel lift.
 
Unfortunately I think I will have to take the custom footbeds out until I get new boots, because they make my feet sit slightly higher my current boots and I still get terrible shinbang after a day of hard skiing (even though I believe my liners have remolded to my feet's new position by now).

Something that never happened before when I didn't have the footbeds... I had issues with the boots but they never hurt. Now I have to wait a full week or I can't ski at all.

I'll just use them in my snowboarding boots in the time being, as they make them feel so much more comfortable.
 
13764446:BrawnTrends said:
Unfortunately I think I will have to take the custom footbeds out until I get new boots, because they make my feet sit slightly higher my current boots and I still get terrible shinbang after a day of hard skiing (even though I believe my liners have remolded to my feet's new position by now).

Something that never happened before when I didn't have the footbeds... I had issues with the boots but they never hurt. Now I have to wait a full week or I can't ski at all.

I'll just use them in my snowboarding boots in the time being, as they make them feel so much more comfortable.
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Quick question.. when you got your footbeds done, were you sitting?
 
Ok so I bought the Atomic Hawx Ultra 110.

Amazing boots. Nothing to say about them design wise (except maybe that they're not the easiest to put on/take off).

I put my custom footbeds in the liners, but didn't heat mold them at the store. I did two full days on them so far, and at the end of the second day I started to have a slight pain on the exterior of my right ankle, where the screw is inside the shell. Nothing that made me want to stop skiing, but it was there.
 
13773323:BrawnTrends said:
Ok so I bought the Atomic Hawx Ultra 110.

Amazing boots. Nothing to say about them design wise (except maybe that they're not the easiest to put on/take off).

I put my custom footbeds in the liners, but didn't heat mold them at the store. I did two full days on them so far, and at the end of the second day I started to have a slight pain on the exterior of my right ankle, where the screw is inside the shell. Nothing that made me want to stop skiing, but it was there.
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It sounds like you should at least heat up the liners. Even on the 110, the foam in the ankle area is quite dense. Just getting it to shape in the right way could very well take care of that for you. Hope you dig the boots otherwise!
 
Love them! They're amazingly light.

I'll go to my store and heat mold the liners and see if it changes. The "pain" is really not all that bad, and it's true that it does feel like the foam is pretty dense in that area.
 
Hi all, so here is the sitch. I recently went into Evo and got fitted for new boots. We went through a lot of boots with thin lasts and the only boot that fit me were some FullTilt first chairs. They were a little expensive and out of my price range so I bought some 16' Tom Wallisch boots since they have the same Soul shell. The feet fit great length wise and width wise, the only problem I had was there was space above my foot. So I went in to Evo and they put in 2mm of these spacers in and they did the job. My problem I have that I'm asking you guys about is the heel fit and calf fit. I have the middle and top cables as tight as they can go and I have a good 5mm of up and down movement when trying to lift my heal in the boot. also in the upper portion of the boot I have the strap and the cable as tight as possible and I can fit about two pencil widths down in the boot.

Do you guys think I should buy smaller boots or buy shorter cables?

Also I know I gave a lot of info and this is a pretty noob question and I appreciate any help given.
 
13775641:Caps4sale said:
Hi all, so here is the sitch. I recently went into Evo and got fitted for new boots. We went through a lot of boots with thin lasts and the only boot that fit me were some FullTilt first chairs. They were a little expensive and out of my price range so I bought some 16' Tom Wallisch boots since they have the same Soul shell. The feet fit great length wise and width wise, the only problem I had was there was space above my foot. So I went in to Evo and they put in 2mm of these spacers in and they did the job. My problem I have that I'm asking you guys about is the heel fit and calf fit. I have the middle and top cables as tight as they can go and I have a good 5mm of up and down movement when trying to lift my heal in the boot. also in the upper portion of the boot I have the strap and the cable as tight as possible and I can fit about two pencil widths down in the boot.

Do you guys think I should buy smaller boots or buy shorter cables?

Also I know I gave a lot of info and this is a pretty noob question and I appreciate any help given.
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Did you get/have custom footbeds? Was the liner heat molded? If the answer is no to either or both of these questions, you need to start with the first question- these are super important for securing your foot in the boot. Without them, you foot will constantly flex and move inside the shell.
 
13775716:onenerdykid said:
Did you get/have custom footbeds? Was the liner heat molded? If the answer is no to either or both of these questions, you need to start with the first question- these are super important for securing your foot in the boot. Without them, you foot will constantly flex and move inside the shell.
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I did have them heat molded but do not have custom footbeds, I'll go get those done. Thank you
 
How many days on average does it take for an intuition liner to be bagged out? I have 60 or so on mine and I'm starting to notice that they aren't quite as snug around the forefoot as they once were. They still are nice and snug around the calve, heel, ankle and toes but just around the sides of my feet it feels like they have loosened off a bit. Kind of a weird spot and I'm still in love with my boots but they just don't feel like they used to. Any recommendations? They were moulded and have custom footbeds in there just looking to take up the volume that once wasn't there.
 
in the midst of season 2 with my RX130s and theyre starting to feel a bit softer than normal. Could it be the buckles being looser do boots usually start losing their juice after a while of hard use? definitely have put these things through the ringer.
 
13775976:soupcan said:
How many days on average does it take for an intuition liner to be bagged out? I have 60 or so on mine and I'm starting to notice that they aren't quite as snug around the forefoot as they once were. They still are nice and snug around the calve, heel, ankle and toes but just around the sides of my feet it feels like they have loosened off a bit. Kind of a weird spot and I'm still in love with my boots but they just don't feel like they used to. Any recommendations? They were moulded and have custom footbeds in there just looking to take up the volume that once wasn't there.
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They'll usually be pretty toasted after 150, but around 60 it will be normal to feel things begin to pack out. If you put them on a hot air stack for 5-10 minutes (depending on the model) it will bring them back to life a bit.

13775997:DeebieSkeebies said:
in the midst of season 2 with my RX130s and theyre starting to feel a bit softer than normal. Could it be the buckles being looser do boots usually start losing their juice after a while of hard use? definitely have put these things through the ringer.
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Like liners packing out, plastics will lose some of their rebound and progressiveness after 150-200 days of skiing. That number will decrease with boots not being treated well or properly cared for (not saying you do this, but just making it known). Also, as the liner packs out, the boot will feel softer since the liner isn't as firm or voluminous. The same shell with 2 different liners can flex/feel completely differently.
 
Maybe a stupid question, but my store sells these Sidas gel shock absorbers that you put on your shins to protect them from shinbang (I have very bony shins). I was wondering if they were any good. And because they're 2mm thick they could potentially take some space in the upper cuff too?
 
13776196:BrawnTrends said:
Maybe a stupid question, but my store sells these Sidas gel shock absorbers that you put on your shins to protect them from shinbang (I have very bony shins). I was wondering if they were any good. And because they're 2mm thick they could potentially take some space in the upper cuff too?
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The idea of putting something in front of or behind your leg to take up space is a good idea. Using gel to do it is not a good idea. Better off getting a spoiler or some foam pads made.
 
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