The Official: "What is wrong with my boots?" Thread

Had some FT dropkicks that were the extremely comfortable for about 100 days. Got extremely lucky and was handed a pair from a friend that got them and hated them after 1 day. Fit perfect, no slipping, no pain, pressure points etc.

About the last 10 days of my last season they started hurting the bottom of my feet on the outside middle. (Outside of the foot directly lined up with the arch) It wouldn’t hurt while actually skiing but it got pretty painful on the chair and would hurt extremely bad after taking my boot off at the end of the day.

I’ now have a trip to Tahoe planned and currently have those same boots. I️ would love to go to a boot fitter but no longer live near a ski-friendly area. I️ know Tahoe is a good place to get fitter but I️ would prefer to not spend one of my few days I️ get now sitting with a bootfitter.

HELP! I’m thinking about trying an insole since they currently don’t have any?

**This post was edited on Nov 4th 2017 at 1:30:59pm
 
13851874:Mtunechi said:
HELP! I’m thinking about trying an insole since they currently don’t have any?

**This post was edited on Nov 4th 2017 at 1:30:59pm
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Yes. Get them. And then get your liners re-heat molded.
 
My full tilt classics have 2 broken buckles (same boot) that brok within the first month of skiing. Been too lazy to get new ones and figured out a way to get one to still work (usually). Same problem happened with my brothers drop kicks. I NEED BUCKLES
 
I have been having major problems with my salamon qst pro 120 boot. A got them and while molding them a river came out and I warrantyed them and while skiing today the tongue of the boot by the toe cracked. What the hell should i do? Warranty them or get a different boot??
 
13854991:Getshifty said:
I have been having major problems with my salamon qst pro 120 boot. A got them and while molding them a river came out and I warrantyed them and while skiing today the tongue of the boot by the toe cracked. What the hell should i do? Warranty them or get a different boot??
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What is a river?

I would warranty though. Not sure on the actual durability overall....but if you can get another pair for free and you know they fit why not?

In the long run....if they keep having difficulties maybe it's time to get a new pair.
 
13854995:Profahoben_212 said:
What is a river?

I would warranty though. Not sure on the actual durability overall....but if you can get another pair for free and you know they fit why not?

In the long run....if they keep having difficulties maybe it's time to get a new pair.
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Sorry I meant a rivet, the boots take like 2 weeks to ship which pisses me of because ski season is finally picking up
 
I got my hawx ultras heat molded and now the cuff alignment indicators move when I flex the boots. How would I fix this?
 
13855289:Saho3914 said:
I got my hawx ultras heat molded and now the cuff alignment indicators move when I flex the boots. How would I fix this?
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If you have the 130, apply some Loctite to the screw and tighten it down in place. Let it sit for a few hours before skiing.

If you have one of the other models, you can have your local shop try to tighten the rivet by pressing it again. It's a compression rivet, so more force applied to it will snug it up.
 
Hello guys.

I have a questions regarding K2. I found a very good deal on a Pinnacle 110 2013 and a decent deal on a 2015. I didn't go to test them yet, will do next week. They also have oven so it's a hole in one if they fit.

My concern is that I keep reading about K2 issues, and 2015 might have fixed some, but 2013 is the boot's infancy, so all the issues should still be there, right?

To be honest, I'm not feeling like paying that extra for the 2015, rather buy something else at that price, but the 2013 is good.

I will never use the boot to it's full potential, but I weight 105 kgs(230lbs) and I do jump/go off piste and I saw photos of a lighter guys that broke them when landing(granted much higher jumps than me), but since I'm much heavier, I'm afraid I might break them faster...

My other boot I am aiming is the Dalbello Boss(none in my country, will search abroad), if you have bad experiences being heavy with them, let me know.

Thank you very much for the help.

Kind regards.
 
Just received a pair of last years drop kicks. 26.5. Everything feels great, but I have pretty skinny calfs and when I flex forward, I have a fair amount of space behind my calf. Same goes for if I lean back, space in front of my shin. I have been to a boot fitter and so far the wrap around liner has done the best at securing my leg, but my top and middle buckle are almost maxed out. Is there any way to tighten the cuff more around my calf? Are there shorter wires or some kind of hidden adjustment I can use?
 
13856816:freewillie said:
Just received a pair of last years drop kicks. 26.5. Everything feels great, but I have pretty skinny calfs and when I flex forward, I have a fair amount of space behind my calf. Same goes for if I lean back, space in front of my shin. I have been to a boot fitter and so far the wrap around liner has done the best at securing my leg, but my top and middle buckle are almost maxed out. Is there any way to tighten the cuff more around my calf? Are there shorter wires or some kind of hidden adjustment I can use?
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For the most part.....full tilts don't work for skinny calves....try throwing a booster on there it could help.
 
13856833:Profahoben_212 said:
For the most part.....full tilts don't work for skinny calves....try throwing a booster on there it could help.
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Ok, they have been the best fitting boots so far. I didn't even want to get full tilts, I think they are sort of a marketing scam (bring on the h8) but I got a deal on last years dk and figured I would give it a shot
 
Is adding a shim an effective way to deal with liners packing out? I have like brand new boots that were super super snug, too snug almost when I fit them. Now they are packed out and are too loose and I got a little bit of toe bang today (opening day but I have been wearing the boots around the house to get the liners to mold). I tried making a diy shim before ordering proper ones and it felt like when I got the boot fitted, but blood can flow nicely. My fitter is 2 hrs away so I would rather not spend over $20 on gas when I can order shims for like $12 with shipping. I don't really know what the fitter can do besides cramming me into a smaller shell but my foot passes the shell test with flying colors
 
13859559:The.Fish said:
Is adding a shim an effective way to deal with liners packing out? I have like brand new boots that were super super snug, too snug almost when I fit them. Now they are packed out and are too loose and I got a little bit of toe bang today (opening day but I have been wearing the boots around the house to get the liners to mold). I tried making a diy shim before ordering proper ones and it felt like when I got the boot fitted, but blood can flow nicely. My fitter is 2 hrs away so I would rather not spend over $20 on gas when I can order shims for like $12 with shipping. I don't really know what the fitter can do besides cramming me into a smaller shell but my foot passes the shell test with flying colors
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These shims are an ok idea for sure. But first, I would make sure you have a good supportive footbed. This will not only stabilize your foot and keep your toes from smashing into the front, but it will also reduce liner pack out as well. Make sure you do that first before pulling the trigger on volume reducing shims.
 
13859637:onenerdykid said:
These shims are an ok idea for sure. But first, I would make sure you have a good supportive footbed. This will not only stabilize your foot and keep your toes from smashing into the front, but it will also reduce liner pack out as well. Make sure you do that first before pulling the trigger on volume reducing shims.
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oh i dropped $150 on customs already.
 
13859672:onenerdykid said:
Word, then adding a 2mm type shim under the liner on top of the boot board will be totally fine then.
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okay cool. I was sketpical because I couldn’t find any bootfitter websites even mentioning them online besides one guy named Patriot Footbeds who has an amazing bootfitting youtube channel
 
So I was recently fitted for a pair of Salomon x-pro 120's at a very solid store, got the liners heat-molded and footbeds as well. They are a size smaller and have a narrower last than my last pair of poor-fitting boots.I rode th for about 10 days, everything felt great, but now the inside of my ankle hurts like hell everytime I put them on. Probably the most horrific pain I have ever felt.

I've been working with the bootfitter at the hostel in Jackson hole. He heat molded the shell and added some padding around the ankle, which has almost made the pain worse. He told me they need to be broken in more.... But I can hardly turn on skis because of the pain. How could I possibly solve this?
 
13859930:Ryhan said:
So I was recently fitted for a pair of Salomon x-pro 120's at a very solid store, got the liners heat-molded and footbeds as well. They are a size smaller and have a narrower last than my last pair of poor-fitting boots.I rode th for about 10 days, everything felt great, but now the inside of my ankle hurts like hell everytime I put them on. Probably the most horrific pain I have ever felt.

I've been working with the bootfitter at the hostel in Jackson hole. He heat molded the shell and added some padding around the ankle, which has almost made the pain worse. He told me they need to be broken in more.... But I can hardly turn on skis because of the pain. How could I possibly solve this?
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Same issue in the past....i ended up having to blow out the ankle....padding would have most definitely made it worse.

Shell fit.... take the liner out and place your foot in the boot....does your ankle bone hit the plastic? Mine did. If you're does just take them to the shop and let them know the issue and they will blow her out a little.
 
Got a pair of Head Thrasher 100 last week, they felt great when I tried them on, and softer flex 98mm boots that are not Full Tilts are hard to come by (I have super skinny feet and ankles/calves).

Went skiing in them today and they were pretty amazing on the first couple runs and then they started to really hurt low on my shins....on the way up on the T-Bar!!

Tried to tighten them more: same pain. Tried to loosen them: same pain. Put the strap behind the tongue: pain now right behind the strap.

So they don't hurt while I'm skiing (or at least not because of skiing), and it's not the kind of pain that would make me stop skiing, but they cut blood flow in my feet and hurt my shins when I'm going back up. This is quite annoying...

Note that I have custom footbeds, but haven't heat molded the liners yet because I wanted to ski once first to see how they were.
 
Any tips for getting boot fitting pads to stick to my liner? Sticker on the back is a joke. Should I even try contact cement or should I just try to use gorilla tape or duct tape like people have suggested on TGR. Anyone have experience with this?
 
Couple of random questions about boots:

1 - How often does the stated BSL of a boot differ from the actual measured length? My Dalbellos are allegedly 296mm, but busting out the tape measure showed they were around 3 mm short of that. (Yes, I'm pretty sure I measured right - yes they're well worn)

2 - I've noticed that the bootboard of my 25.5 dalbellos measures out to about 26cm. Additionally, since Dalbello has been pushing this 'Contour 4' technology for the past couple of years, I've noticed that the heel pockets of their boots are *substantially* deeper than say a Tecnica or Lange. I'm wondering - is it common for the shell fit of one company's boot in size X to be drastically longer or shorter than the shell fit of another company's boot in the same size? I've always heard that the mondopoint measurement number really means nothing between brands (and even models within the same brand) how true is that?
 
13860435:OregonDead said:
Any tips for getting boot fitting pads to stick to my liner? Sticker on the back is a joke. Should I even try contact cement or should I just try to use gorilla tape or duct tape like people have suggested on TGR. Anyone have experience with this?
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3M makes some really good 90-level spray adhesive that Ive used in the past. Spray on pads and on the liner where you want it to go, let dry, and put on. Done.

13860849:Bamski said:
Couple of random questions about boots:

1 - How often does the stated BSL of a boot differ from the actual measured length? My Dalbellos are allegedly 296mm, but busting out the tape measure showed they were around 3 mm short of that. (Yes, I'm pretty sure I measured right - yes they're well worn)

2 - I've noticed that the bootboard of my 25.5 dalbellos measures out to about 26cm. Additionally, since Dalbello has been pushing this 'Contour 4' technology for the past couple of years, I've noticed that the heel pockets of their boots are *substantially* deeper than say a Tecnica or Lange. I'm wondering - is it common for the shell fit of one company's boot in size X to be drastically longer or shorter than the shell fit of another company's boot in the same size? I've always heard that the mondopoint measurement number really means nothing between brands (and even models within the same brand) how true is that?
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1. The BSL should be within a mm of the labeled length... 3mm off seems like a lot.

2. Just like with normal shoe sizes, one companys 26 will not be the same as anothers. Some are more true than others, some like to fudge it.
 
Yo, so i have some Dalbello kr rampages from 2014? The heel pads are wearing thin. Anyone know where i can order some, or if a shop would have them. thanks :)
 
I have the solution! Switch to snowboarding. The boots are more comfortable, easier to walk in and warmer. :)

(Although admittedly you don’t get quite the same satisfying feeling you do with taking off ski boots when all the blood rushes back into your feet at the end of a very long day)
 
Ok so I went to see a good boot fitter for my shin issues, and I had him check my custom footbeds and he told me they were all kind of wrong and explained why (which actually made a lot of sense), so I had new ones made. And they feel much better.

Also we looked at the boots to see why they were hurting my lower shins so much, and it turns out Head had the great idea to have their liners' cuffs stop pretty low on the tongue, which creates a pressure point too low on my shins.

He created a pad with some different density foams to fill up the space between the top the boot's tongue and liner's tongue and it feels like night and day.

Edit: I'll post photos of the two footbeds if anyone is interested to see the differences between the old and new ones.

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I purchased Lange AC9 boots which fit my wide feet well after baking, but which seem to keep my calf muscles under constant tension, even when I'm just standing in the lift line or off the skis in the lodge. I can't relax without sitting down. I'm an intermediate skier, around 200 lbs, in my late 50s. Any ideas what would cause this?
 
13863107:onenerdykid said:
3M makes some really good 90-level spray adhesive that Ive used in the past. Spray on pads and on the liner where you want it to go, let dry, and put on. Done.
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Thank you! It worked great!
 
Got fitted for a pair of Salomon X Max 100's a year ago. Have probably had them out on the mountain 4-5 days now. Definitely starting to break in a bit but one thing that I've noticed is that there's still a bit of pain on the inner ankle of my left foot, sort of back by my achilles. Went this past weekend and it felt fine the first day but the pain was noticeable the second day. Almost felt like there was a bit of abrasion on my inside ankle (left foot). Anything I can do?
 
13867671:NoScoped said:
Got fitted for a pair of Salomon X Max 100's a year ago. Have probably had them out on the mountain 4-5 days now. Definitely starting to break in a bit but one thing that I've noticed is that there's still a bit of pain on the inner ankle of my left foot, sort of back by my achilles. Went this past weekend and it felt fine the first day but the pain was noticeable the second day. Almost felt like there was a bit of abrasion on my inside ankle (left foot). Anything I can do?
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1. Do you have good supportive footbeds?

2. If yes, then get the ankle punched out. If no, get footbeds.
 
How worn can boot soles get before they become a safety hazard?

Noticed the other day my soles are pretty worn. The soles on my boots are replaceable but was planning on getting new boots next year, so not sure if it is worth the money to order them just for this season.

If I can still set the forward pressure am I all good?
 
13871194:cool_name said:
How worn can boot soles get before they become a safety hazard?

Noticed the other day my soles are pretty worn. The soles on my boots are replaceable but was planning on getting new boots next year, so not sure if it is worth the money to order them just for this season.

If I can still set the forward pressure am I all good?
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Basically 1mm can be removed from the bottom before you are no long in the Alpine norm. Your local shop has a specific tool to measure the toe and heel lugs of your boot to ensure they still conform to the norm. It will take 30 seconds to figure out.

No- forward pressure is a length measurement, sole wear is a vertical measurement.
 
13871383:onenerdykid said:
Basically 1mm can be removed from the bottom before you are no long in the Alpine norm. Your local shop has a specific tool to measure the toe and heel lugs of your boot to ensure they still conform to the norm. It will take 30 seconds to figure out.
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Do I need to order new soles for my Ultras?
 
13871395:BrawnTrends said:
Do I need to order new soles for my Ultras?
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It's more about the overall height from the AFD to the top of the lip which interfaces the binding. That height is 19mm +/- 1mm

As long as you are within that, you should be fine. This dimension is what that shop tool checks (the one I mentioned in the above post).
 
I bought Full Tilt Tom Wallisch 2015 signature series boots for my season and had them moulded to my feet. Ever since I have been experiencing problems with my heel lifting up and pain on the outside of my foot making it difficult to ski. If I try to tighten the bindings to stop my heel lifting up it creates a lot of pain down the outside of my leg and calf. Are these boots supposed to be naturally loose in their design? Or is it because of another reason?
 
13871925:JustaJer said:
I bought Full Tilt Tom Wallisch 2015 signature series boots for my season and had them moulded to my feet. Ever since I have been experiencing problems with my heel lifting up and pain on the outside of my foot making it difficult to ski. If I try to tighten the bindings to stop my heel lifting up it creates a lot of pain down the outside of my leg and calf. Are these boots supposed to be naturally loose in their design? Or is it because of another reason?
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Do you also have aftermarket footbeds?

Did the boot-fitter remove the liner and make sure the plastic shell was the right size for your foot shape?
 
I bought them at the start of the 2015 season in the resort so I would doubt they were aftermarket.

The boot fitter did not check the size of the plastic shell with my foot shape.
 
13871953:JustaJer said:
I bought them at the start of the 2015 season in the resort so I would doubt they were aftermarket.

The boot fitter did not check the size of the plastic shell with my foot shape.
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Ok, let's start here:

1. Remove the liner

2. Step into the bare shell with a thin sock on

3. Slide your foot to the front of the shell so your toes just barely touch

4. Measure the gap behind your heel

1cm (finger tip) = high performance fit

2cm (two finger tips on top of one another) = normal

3cm (more than two finger tips) = too big, can't fix
 
I just got a pair of Dalbello rampages, and even with the heat mold they cut off the circulation to my toes. Is there something I could do to stop it, or did I go to small?
 
13873861:Rdikken said:
I just got a pair of Dalbello rampages, and even with the heat mold they cut off the circulation to my toes. Is there something I could do to stop it, or did I go to small?
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It's 100% common that new boots will cause your toes to go tingly. They simply need to break in. If it doesn't get better after 5-10 days of skiing, then you have a fit issue that needs to be solved.

You can speed this process up by wearing your boots at home for 20-30 minutes each night for a week.
 
13871959:onenerdykid said:
Ok, let's start here:

1. Remove the liner

2. Step into the bare shell with a thin sock on

3. Slide your foot to the front of the shell so your toes just barely touch

4. Measure the gap behind your heel

1cm (finger tip) = high performance fit

2cm (two finger tips on top of one another) = normal

3cm (more than two finger tips) = too big, can't fix
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I just tested my boots and the gap is 3cm if not bigger what does that mean and even if I got my insoles remolded it would not help? Do you think I just need to get a new pair of boots?
 
13876381:JustaJer said:
I just tested my boots and the gap is 3cm if not bigger what does that mean and even if I got my insoles remolded it would not help? Do you think I just need to get a new pair of boots?
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That boot will never end up working, and will in fact always be problematic. Getting insoles will help (and they can be transferred to your new, properly sized boot which is nice), but it's just a completely wrong starting point for you. Any money you spend on trying to make it work will just be wasted.

Unfortunately, you need new boots if you want to ski comfortably and ski well.
 
13876402:onenerdykid said:
That boot will never end up working, and will in fact always be problematic. Getting insoles will help (and they can be transferred to your new, properly sized boot which is nice), but it's just a completely wrong starting point for you. Any money you spend on trying to make it work will just be wasted.

Unfortunately, you need new boots if you want to ski comfortably and ski well.[/QUOTE

Cheers for the advice
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My right boot has given me this huge bruising Thing on my foot I know it’s from my ski boot, sometimes I can feel it. Boots fit alright aside from this one part in the boot, what should i do?

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