THE Line Reactor Thread

Bangor

Bangor

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Ok, I've been posting my story over NS for the last 2 years. Nobody's been listening. So, here I go again.

I bought a pair of 175 Darksides + Line R12's two seasons ago, and have been riding them hard ever since. This thread details my personal experience with the bindings, and the weight breakdown.

First, I'd like to say that I like the bindings. They're solid. I've had a limited set of problems over the last 2 years. Which I'll run through chronologically.

First, the heelpiece on one binding randomly moved while I was eating lunch. I believe I may have hit the release when I put the skis on the rack, but I'm not sure. Anyway, I came out from lunch, and went to click in. One ski clicked in fine, but the other didn't. I look down, and the heel is all the way at the back of the heel's travel. Open the heel release, move back into place, close release, click in, go skiing. No big deal.

Next, the mid-air ski release. Big hit at Stratton (i think it was). Not fun. But, it was mostly my fault. It was one of those days when ice sticks to your boots like lateralis to 12 year old girls, and I forgot to get all of it off. Hit the jump, look down, no right ski. Bail. Enough said. No big deal though, grabbed the ski, got the ice off, clicked in, no more problems.

The big one was actually a few hours ago. I did a small 180 saftey, leaning a little too far forward, and STOMPED down. Click, click, FUCK. Switch double eject. The natural enemy of ski brakes. This one fucked my last run up, and sent me boot-skiing the rest of the way down. Mangled brakes, moved heelpieces, no fun. Just got finished with an hour of ski brake bending and re-shaping, not to mention readjusting the location of the heel piece on one of them. But, they're fine now. I've actually got to give pivogy credit, I think it saved my knees on this one. I bounced from leaning forwards to falling out while twisting backwards. Both the heel pieces were still up when I picked the skis up, which means I pulled off a rear-twisting fall. Which is the ACL killer.

I've heard people bitching about the plate and how it lifts you up too far. That's bullshit in my personal opinion. The plate is fine.

And, now for the weight breakdown. When I was bending my brakes back, I took one binding off and threw it on the bathroom scale (digital, very inaccurate). 4lbs, which equals slighly more than line's original statement of 1800 grams. The inconsistancy is, i think, my scale.

Keep in mind my R12's are the old school ones, I'm not sure if the newer ones are lighter. All weights are in grams.

Line R12's: 1800 g

Salomon S810 Ti: 1070 g

Salomon S912 Ti: 990 g

I couldn't find weights on any of the marker, look, rossi, tyrolia or other bindings, so feel free to post those IF THEY ARE CORRECT. I wasn't exactly looking TOO hard though.

So, in short, yes, the reactors are heavier. Get over it.

I like them, and I've just purchased a pair of chronics to ride as well. I'll be quickmounting them back and forth a bit this season, so I'll keep you updated.

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well my friends have them and both of them all ready have problems, one skis them without brakes because unlike normal bindings they hang off to the side instead of tucking in which can be bad when landing switch. both of them had to tighten them because they loosen up worse then a hooker in las vegas. from what i've seen they suck and i wouldn't buy nor recommend them.

MAINE, THE WAY LIFE SHOULD BE.
 
my toe piece broke the first time i clicked in. the reactor has a really good idea in the pivogy, but the pivogy mechanism means that the binding has that huge plate under it. this inceases the weight (which i think is a bit too much, but thats verses my two other pairs of rossi scratch 140s), and in order for line ot keep the weight down farther, they put a lot of plastic in the binding. i personally didnt want to mess with a binding that broke so easily. i would be afraid of it exploding when i needed it to stay together, which is why i returned. in a couple years, i might buy some if they find a way to fix what i think of as its problems. good idea, but needs work

binding destruction count: 3 so far this season, one pair of lines and two pairs of rossis: what will be next?
 
Bangor, incase you thought my thread about the reactor was me bashing it, it wasnt. i was just mearly stating the lift that the plate and bindings gave the ski (after i watched the Line vidoes about switching it on 3 skis in 2 min).

hopefully by next season they have the bindings going solid becasue i have torn an acl and i dont want to go through that again. So if i see that they have made good improvements on it then i will consider getting myself a pair.

you seem to be the one lucky one in the batch though. it seems your the only one in the first run of the bindings that didnt have a problem with them. lucky man, go gambling. good luck with them on the furture though.

* if i was you, try to break em good and warrenty for a new pair, just in case ;) *

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Ryan V.G

~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~

Dragons Lair
 
I have been riding my 04/05 Pollards with the Reactor 12s for about 15 das now.

The binding: Of course its a little heavier than most bindings, but you get used to it very fast, no problem. It seems very stable, and has worked great for me. The only problem I had was that the binding ripped out of the ski once, but thats because I forgot to tighten the screws after skiing for several days. Be sure to tighten the screws often!

The ski: the skis are great, pretty stiff, but I think thats better than too soft. They ski great and all that, and I was really impressed about the durability. I have been doing so many rails with them, probably slid 100-150 times with them, if not more. The edges hold up really well, no cracks or nothing, and the base of the ski has very few scratches, even though I have been sliding picknick tables, going through the woods with little snow, etc. The topsheet is also great, hasnt started to chip off.

 
the screws should not come undone. there's a nylon threading in them that keeps them in. also, the reactors are about 8 grams heavier (each piece) than the look pivots. underfoot, that's nothing.

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-Ben Bormann
 
I will ad to this post as I continue to ski my Reactors on the Chronics....yes the brakes do rub a little..but it has not been a problem for me...as far as the brakes and landing switch...I think that they are great because of how hi the brakes sit when you are clicked in....I have witnessed several Look/Rossi breaks bend to shit..not to mention the line brakes are ALOT thicker...I love mine and have had no problems with them or the Chronics..which by the way are tanks

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it would only make sense that the screws would eventually come out over time. it happens on all snowboards and they just have to tighten them all the time. unless you put locktite in them they will come out (but then you forfit swapping skis with them)

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A view on the downfall of the US by 221: 'godzilla man. he's gonna show up and shit will hit the fan.'

ellermann -> i hope you realize you just threw yourselves a birthday party online. just think about that for a little while

Ryan V.G

~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~

Dragons Lair
 
the idea with the nylon is to ensure a smooth turning screw, not keep it in there

binding destruction count: 3 so far this season, one pair of lines and two pairs of rossis: what will be next?
 
what exactly are any problems you are having witht he toes? Are they just coming right off? Cause my one toe wobbles a shitload! After one day of skiing. I had this problem while i was testing them in the shop, but i just threw another binding on. Anyway when o go to work tomorrow night im gonna cal htem and see what they have to say. Just looking for some more experiences.

Todd

 
mine would not lock out, so it moved forward when i tried to click in. and part of the piece that touches the booot snapped off

binding destruction count: 3 so far this season, one pair of lines and two pairs of rossis: what will be next?
 
no, the nylon is a nylon lock screw that is designed to hold it in place.

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'That's what Punk is to me. The near final understanding that the world is ours, and that we only have to realize it to make it so.'

-Ben Bormann
 
if thats the case, why do they come loose?

binding destruction count: 3 so far this season, one pair of lines and two pairs of rossis: what will be next?
 
yeah, i had to tighten mine today. it was designed to hold it in there, but its not perfect. I'm not really noticing a weight difference while im skiing.

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the one binding i took off on sat. night, after riding it sunday, is a little loose. where, the binding i haven't taken off since i got them 2 years ago is still fine. i guess you REALLY have to hand tighten them. i need to get a bigger screwdriver.

(**sch-oooooooooool's out for summer, sch-oooooool's out for EV-A!!!!** sorry, just listening to this song, it's really good)

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Home of the Rotating Signature

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i once got owned by a dog on rollerblades in 5th grade. Yeah, big hill, dogs turf, shitty roller blades and a skinny ass 10 year old dont mix to well.'

- KLD

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~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~
 
hearing about all this is slowly making me not want line bindings anymore

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-Jonathan

Jibij Pro Shop

'A little too much hot sauce on that one'
 
yeah. i think the fact that teh line riders wont touch them is particularly touching. they were really hyped, and i let the hype get ot me.

binding destruction count: 3 so far this season, one pair of lines and two pairs of rossis: what will be next?
 
MAybe cuz last time i checked line males more products than just bindings!! HMMMM

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The whole thing about thier pro riders not touching them is Bull....that was when they first came out mostly because the pros had to wait until they could disolve thier other binding sponsership

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I heard that one of the problemes is that some boots are a little longer in like mm, like some are probably 5mm longer, and apparently the line binding can only adjust to a certain mm, so it causes the toe to pop off...I dont know if its realy the case, but thats what I heard

Also known as ~Skier_Simon~

East Coast Skier
 
The Line Binding does adjust in increments...so I woul dthink if your boot does not properly fit into one of those increments then the tow will not lock your boot in properly...second...if you have a tone of snow on your boot and you try to lock in the toe will release forward instead of being forced into the binding and breaking...so if you adjust the binding to small for your boots the toe is going to slide forward...I have not had a single problem with mine other than the brakes becoming tangled up in each other if my skis cross while skiing switched...but that would be my falt anyhow

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haha

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Jibij Pro Shop

'A little too much hot sauce on that one'
 
to beep: i love my chronics. the bindings just need to be fixed, thats all

binding destruction count: 3 so far this season, one pair of lines and two pairs of rossis: what will be next?

this is your stage: you can use it to its fullest, waste your opportunity, or show us how stupid you can act. what will you choose?
 
yeah beside one binding coming loose the first day, i haven't had any problems yet. But i really just don't feel that safe on them. They've held me in find, held up good on some decent falls, But all the shit i read about them makes me nervous. O well, 2 year warrantee if anything happens!!! yahhhhhoooooooooooo

-B

311 is the Fuckin Shit Mutha Fucka
 
I'm pretty sure that the reactors come with a 5yr warranty. I think thats what I read with the diagram sheet that came with them.

 
I don't usually make judgements about things from what other people say...I make my decisions based on my own experience and I feel alot safer in the Reactors than I did in my Looks...I have released twice on backward twisting falls with the reactors and I had a couple close calles with the Look's where I tweaked my knee...I feel alot better about falling with the reactors and I ski harder with them

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no, the warrenty is one year with just the bindings, and two years if you have the skis and bindings.

binding destruction count: 3 so far this season, one pair of lines and two pairs of rossis: what will be next?

this is your stage: you can use it to its fullest, waste your opportunity, or show us how stupid you can act. what will you choose?
 
and, there may be a 2 year warrenty on your bindings, but there is no warrenty on your knees.

binding destruction count: 3 so far this season, one pair of lines and two pairs of rossis: what will be next?

this is your stage: you can use it to its fullest, waste your opportunity, or show us how stupid you can act. what will you choose?
 
how could you not feel safe on them?? watch the binding videos on the line website and i think they will change your mind.

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-Ben Bormann
 
Well Gudd did have them, but he had a flucky pair and has been all over this site ripping them...I mean it is near impossible to have perfect QC and every product has some returns...but anyhow....my knees feel alot safer in them like I said I had my knees tweaked a couple times by my Look's and I have only ever heard 2 people say anything bad about them that have actually skied on them

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LINE BINDINGS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't get them if you haven't already. they pop off really easy and are cheap!! they break easy too.!

AR5
 
i got my Reactor 12s today and i just put em on my Line Darksides. I am just wonering how i should set the release on em. Never really turned screws b4 but im not really into paying a ski shop to do it. What do i need to do and how should i set the release. Btw im 6'4' 210 lbs.

Ski season 04/05 can't wait. This should be a good one.
 
i watched the videos on lines site. am i not allowed to talk about what i do not like in a product? you are welcome to buy them if you want, but i would not advise it, because of my bad experience. i am throughly behind what line is doing, but they need a little change in my opinion. thats all. from now on, i will not buy a binding in its first year on the market. i let the hype get to me, and i learned from my mistakes.

binding destruction count: 3 so far this season, one pair of lines and two pairs of rossis: what will be next?

this is your stage: you can use it to its fullest, waste your opportunity, or show us how stupid you can act. what will you choose?
 
linebullets if you don't have a shop set it up the first time you void the warrenty. so don't be cheap, andyou always have to remember bindings will always break in certain situations, i guess at the end of the season look at the % of reactors retured in the year, and compair it to any major binding comp. also the breaks breaking is a givin thing if you eat it switch, but thats why they made them easy (kind of) to switch out

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who is the furious five? I thought you knew- its me and my 4 other split personalities that believe apestead should be castrated - oO~sKiErGirL~Oo

 
Yeah the Line Brakes are so easy to replace...if you are having a hard time getting them back in...make sure you squeeze them together a little when you are putting them in...it makes it alot easier...the first time a bend mine I am going to start carrying an extra one with me...hell you can change them on the slopes with a car key...good stuff...lets see you do that with your looks

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^ now thats what i'm talkin about.......

.:l[Tyler]l:.

who is the furious five? I thought you knew- its me and my 4 other split personalities that believe apestead should be castrated - oO~sKiErGirL~Oo

 
and if you bust em, how much are new brakes?

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A view on the downfall of the US by 221: 'godzilla man. he's gonna show up and shit will hit the fan.'

ellermann -> i hope you realize you just threw yourselves a birthday party online. just think about that for a little while

Ryan V.G

~~Phunkin Phatt Phreerider~~

Dragons Lair
 
Prolly like 20 bucks...I have not bent mine so I don't know....but it does appear that people bend alot of brakes on a lot of different bindings so it is nice to have ones that are easy to change just in case

Go Steelers!!

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''I was at Killington, Ripping, Waisted..'' - Uncle Pete

I hate FROGS!!

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