The Future is Lab Grown Meat and that's a Good Thing

14302539:EdensDemise said:
With the technology we currently have, you still need to kill animals for lab grown meat, just less of them. Yeah it’s better than “real” meat, but why choose a better option when we have a good option?
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Really? Why choose a better option when we have a good option? Because ones better, duh. And lab grown meat will just keep getting better, it’s only the beginning. There’s no point in sticking to old methods and ignoring innovation.
 
14302553:Biffbarf said:
Uhhhhh, you're greatly overestimating the nutritional choices those who live in northern or western Alaska have.
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Yeah, you're probably right, I get your point. Although I'd still think someone who wants to be vegan probably still could, although I see your point that it may not be as easy as it is on the mainland, more expensive and/or need to order online, etc. but I'm also guessing there's more choice than there were 50 years ago, and there will be more choice 50 years from now.
 
14302578:asparagus said:
Really? Why choose a better option when we have a good option? Because ones better, duh. And lab grown meat will just keep getting better, it’s only the beginning. There’s no point in sticking to old methods and ignoring innovation.
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Sorry that was worded badly. I meant the better option is lab grown meat, the bad option is regular meat, and the good option is veganism. If you won’t go vegan lab meat is a step in the right direction but not really the solution
 
Who the FUCK would eat this

go eat that fresh surgical pussy of yours if you wanna eat this absolute dogshit
 
14302568:CatdickBojangles said:
Thought this was an [tag=129479]@X_ANKILLA[/tag] post for a minute. But then I realized he’s smart enough to not eat lab grown meat.
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Oh god. Fuck know. People receive energy from just touching each other. Eating mystery Dungeon meat is Bad Vibes.
 
In a way it's a good thing but it's alot if processing and a ton of packaging to make pea protein taste like meat, why not just eat peas , be even better for the environment .

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14303216:Elcheapo said:
In a way it's a good thing but it's alot if processing and a ton of packaging to make pea protein taste like meat, why not just eat peas , be even better for the environment .

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Why process wheat and grains into bread? when you can just eat raw wheat
 
14302552:Monsieur_Patate said:
That's only your choice tho. We've evolved and developed our supply chain to a point where you can get any food you want pretty much anywhere on the planet. You don't have to hunt or fish, you can eat whatever you want, you can be a vegan if you want and still get the proteins needed for healthy diet, that's the beauty of living in our (western) day and age. You seem to imply that "neither veganism nor lab-grown meat is in your future" because of you live in AK and that you have to hunt and fish to get your proteins, but you don't have to, you simply chose to.

More generally on this topic, people don't seem to realize that any innovation has to go through the steps, lab-grown meat is still in the infancy stages, as this industry develops, so will its quality and efficiency. So if lab-grown gets to a point where it's more efficient to produce, similar in taste, widely available while being animal-friendly, I mean it just becomes a no brainer, why wouldn't you eat it then?

Same reasoning with electric vehicles, goal is to get that to a point where it's as efficient to produce, similar in performance while being cheaper and more eco-friendly to run. I mean it will just be a no-brainer for everyone.

I'm all for innovation in general, but even more so in the face of our climate crisis, this isn't a luxury, we need to change, and I'm personally excited to see people coming up with these ideas.
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Also false. People in many/most parts of Alaska obtain all food (other than that harvested from the land, including animals) via small bush plane, irregular shipments from cargo jets, or barge. Weather is highly unpredictable and frequently causes cancellations or delays. Fresh produce is a commodity that comes at an exorbitant financial cost that most cannot afford. Those who can still often don't have access to it.

If you ever have a chance to take an Alaskan to a grocery store and witness her consume fresh fruit outside of Alaska for the first time in months, do it. The stuff we get in Anchorage (half of Alaska's population) is terrible compared to the lower 48. The shit they get in bush Alaska is hardly edible, if it's obtainable at all. Often, the nearest grocery store can be 50-100+ miles away on snowmachine or by plane. Local stores can be the size of most gas station convenience stores. You clearly do not understand what most of Alaska is like.

As far as my personal choices go - I certainly have the option of following a strictly plant-based diet. I choose not to. Many others who live in this state do not have that luxury.
 
Oh, and for my birthday, we caught a bunch of dinners. Cheers to the other red meat.

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14303516:Sdot. said:
As far as my personal choices go - I certainly have the option of following a strictly plant-based diet. I choose not to. Many others who live in this state do not have that luxury.
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We're pretty much agreeing here. Sure there's a very tiny tiny portion of the developed world that still lives in areas so remote that they can't get access to the resources they'd need to get by without meat, sure. It's so tiny though that it's pretty much irrelevant to the larger debate though. Hence my point that realistically virtually no one "has to" eat meat. People simply make the choice to eat meat (like you as you stated, and even myself)
 
14218657:sqeellicbic said:
Animal exploitation is the biggest tragedy this planet has ever seen

bring on the downvotes or try to change my mind
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Animal exploitation is the tastiest tragedy this planet has ever seen.
 
Id be very surprised if it could ever match the nutritional values of regular, or grass fed organic red meat. Theres a lot more that goes into it other than straight up vitamin and nutrient content.
 
14218470:asparagus said:
somebody start listing downsides to this because i cant think of many
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I just saw a mini-document on this not long ago actually. Spoiler alert, it's not as good as it sounds. Currently, it is not economically viable, nor ethically viable (in my opinion). Put simply, culturing muscle from stem cells to (replicate meat - no matter the meat) currently requires a liquid called fetal bovine serum. This keeps the cells alive while they grow into muscle and is necessary...

Fetal bovine serum is collected from the fetuses of dying cows. This requirement for this serum counteracts any current use for lab grown meat, as it requires roughly 50L of this stuff to make 1 burger. Just to put that in perspective, 1 cow yields 150-550 ml, so you'd need 90-333 cow fetuses to make a single burger. This is just the start of downsides, as other grown factors needed - for instance, TGF-B costs over $1,000,000/gram (about the price of a burger at your local resort)... you can check out this video if you want more information:
=RealScience

PS, not to poop on the post, just spreading some awareness.
 
14364650:DTetz said:
I just saw a mini-document on this not long ago actually. Spoiler alert, it's not as good as it sounds. Currently, it is not economically viable, nor ethically viable (in my opinion). Put simply, culturing muscle from stem cells to (replicate meat - no matter the meat) currently requires a liquid called fetal bovine serum. This keeps the cells alive while they grow into muscle and is necessary...

Fetal bovine serum is collected from the fetuses of dying cows. This requirement for this serum counteracts any current use for lab grown meat, as it requires roughly 50L of this stuff to make 1 burger. Just to put that in perspective, 1 cow yields 150-550 ml, so you'd need 90-333 cow fetuses to make a single burger. This is just the start of downsides, as other grown factors needed - for instance, TGF-B costs over $1,000,000/gram (about the price of a burger at your local resort)... you can check out this video if you want more information:
=RealScience

PS, not to poop on the post, just spreading some awareness.
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If this shit is so expensive then how can we buy it for so cheap. Also if the cow fetus thing is true that’s fucked up but I’m less for the current ways of making fake meat and more for the innovation that could some day become more ethically and environmentally viable
 
There is a"middle ground*

Moderation.

Eat less in general.

Float like a butterfly, not wallow in de muck of what America eats.
 
14365742:Abomber22 said:
There is a"middle ground*

Moderation.

Eat less in general.

Float like a butterfly, not wallow in de muck of what America eats.
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In France people go out to local farms and local markets to buy fresh food for what they will make that day. America's cosmopolitan food culture is cancer shit for 1/100th of the amount of time it would take to go the French route. If you want to eat like us French people start growing your own food and buying local. If everyone just switched to local organic produce, organic prices would decline to reasonable levels.

There is no difference from eating a baconator and masturbating 5 times a day. The dopamine rush and crash is enough to destroy a nation.
 
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