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bigsky_gurl

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By Carl F. Worden

Ladies & gentlemen...

Most of you familiar with my writings know that I am a financial consultant involved in just about every aspect of economic and financial proceedings, and I must tell you I have a terrible feeling of foreboding regarding the future of American prosperity. The threat is imminent, and much closer than most Americans can possibly foresee.

My associates from every corner of America have consistently confided to me that the primary driving force in the American economy right now is people refinancing their homes at low interest rates, and withdrawing the equity to make purchases like cars and appliances, and to pay off credit card debt.

Those of you old enough, and those of you who are younger, but cognizant of the historical events leading up to the crash of 1929, will recall that people were buying stock on credit credit that became immediately due and payable when those stocks lost their value. Thousands of people lost their homes put up as collateral in the ensuing catastrophe, and wound up living in cars and on the streets and in soup lines.

That is exactly what is going on right now. Further, there are sharp increases in home purchases in various areas of the United States, driven not by people buying homes to live in, but to purchase a home on pure speculation that they will reap a huge profit by re-selling the home a month or two later often to another speculator. Economically, it is a disaster waiting to happen, and these home speculators are playing a reverse game of musical chairs in which you do not want to have a seat (read overpriced home) when the music stops as in when the buying frenzy suddenly ends and prices drop. All it will take is a Federal Reserve announcement of an interest rate increase, and I see that coming very soon.

Couple this trend with the fact fuel prices are soaring, making the price of everything from groceries to basic household goods, jump substantially due to transportation costs.

This trend cannot go on without harsh economic consequences, including double-digit, runaway inflation -- and the inevitable rise in interest rates. If interest rates jump just one or two percent, the entire basis for our existing economy through refinancing of homes will come to a screeching halt. If the Federal Reserve refuses to raise interest rates, inflation will explode unchecked. It,s a no-win situation, no matter how you look at it.

What,s going on right now isn,t very different from the events leading up to the crash of 1929. People were betting on the come line that stock values would keep on rising forever, just like people of today are betting their home,s equity will keep rising forever, but this cannot continue without a drastic correction that can be brought about by any number of unforeseen events. It,s like a house of cards in a high wind, and you never know when the breeze will bring the whole delicate structure to ruin.

I do not understand why the Bush Administration is not trying to do something about these exploding fuel costs. $2.00 + per gallon for diesel?? Diesel is just about the most cheaply produced fuel, yet its cost at the pump is equal to or higher than regular grade gasoline here in Oregon! Clearly, the oil companies are profiteering and cooperating in illegal acts of trust with one another, yet the Bush Administration is taking no hard federal action to even investigate, let alone bring prosecutions that send a strong message. I don,t get it, and I don,t understand why there has been no massive media or public outcry for action.

Foreclosures and bankruptcies all across America are already spiking, despite government assurances that we,re all enjoying a growing economy and a promising job market. Those government assurances are all a big, fat lie! The unemployment figures are completely unreliable, since those dropping off the unemployment compensation rolls are no longer counted, even if they remain unemployed after their benefits run out. It,s all a big, fat lie, and I have a terrible sense of foreboding of what is to come, because this economy is not built with underpinnings that can withstand even the slightest breeze.

Carl F. Worden

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From Don Stacey

4-17-4

As you read Mr. Worden's message, think about:

1. Americans in aggregate are spending 120% of their income!

2. We are more in debt than at any time in history and borrowing more at a furious rate!

3. The savings rate in America is almost nil.

4. The Federal Reserve is printing huge amounts of new dollars, creating them from thin air. The new dollars contribute to rising inflation.

How will we handle bad times? I am afraid not well at all.

I am currently trying to decide what i want to study in school. I am going to choose something that I can make a living doing. Studying art history is not going to land me a decent job, and not being able to pay my rent is not going to make me happy. It's scary knowing that even after I get my degree, there is no guarantee I'll be able to find a job. Does anyone else my age feel alot of anxiety about our unstable economy, and what you are going to with your life?

Dont forget your snorkle ~ Bridger Bowl
 
wats the point of this thread?????

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shes saying that the economy is bad and its forcing her to do something that hse doesnt want to do for a living

Hardcore drug abuse.....so hot right now. -west
 
provoke conversation about our economy. Ive just been stressing over what major to choose, and how im going to actually support myself someday. These are very real issues that our generation is going to face, and its really scary. I suppose you might not care that social security is gone, or that our economy is about to collapse...

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who cares live life day by day not 10years ahead

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i dont because i realize that there are lifestyles that dont depend on world economy, but most people think that they have to be just like everybody else, and get a job, and pay the rent, and go on like that untill they retire or whatever, but our culture is not the only option, there are plenty of other ways to live

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the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live. But there is a law of life. A law to live by. Not guidelines (commandments)..not suggestions (parents, schools), but a LAW. Just as certain as the law of gravity. The law of nature. Distroy diversity and face extinction. Increased food production = increased population. Starvation is natural. We have to start following the laws of nature and stop thinking we are exempt from them. We have to stop pretending we are gods and we were meant to rule the world and possibly the universe. if we continue, we will crash. we are getting close. As we eliminate species and diversity, we decrease the changes of anything surviving after we destroy ourselves. We are very close to eliminating all life on this planet forever. Something will survive, right? Well, we hope so. But one thing is certain. It won't be us.
 
fuck you this is not a mocking bird thread. And samck, i used to think that i could live a good life without a job just ski bumming or whatever, but i thought about it and i cant. if you would like to live a good life and be able to afford a house and a car, and raise a family you have to get a job, so face it, Bigskygurls right, we're all gonna have to face this.

Hardcore drug abuse.....so hot right now. -west
 
who the hell said i wanted a house or a car or anything like that, i think that material possessions are just things we use to fill the voids left by our meaningless lives, i know it ounds depressing, but its true, and im not talking about living in our society or one like ours

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the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live. But there is a law of life. A law to live by. Not guidelines (commandments)..not suggestions (parents, schools), but a LAW. Just as certain as the law of gravity. The law of nature. Distroy diversity and face extinction. Increased food production = increased population. Starvation is natural. We have to start following the laws of nature and stop thinking we are exempt from them. We have to stop pretending we are gods and we were meant to rule the world and possibly the universe. if we continue, we will crash. we are getting close. As we eliminate species and diversity, we decrease the changes of anything surviving after we destroy ourselves. We are very close to eliminating all life on this planet forever. Something will survive, right? Well, we hope so. But one thing is certain. It won't be us.
 
^not having meaningless possesions?? sounds like your goin for a carrer in the crack smoking business my friend. I plan on choosing my career just to make the most money so I can buy a car and house.

-Pat

 
ok that whent right over your head

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the only problem with man is that he doesn't know how he ought to live. But there is a law of life. A law to live by. Not guidelines (commandments)..not suggestions (parents, schools), but a LAW. Just as certain as the law of gravity. The law of nature. Distroy diversity and face extinction. Increased food production = increased population. Starvation is natural. We have to start following the laws of nature and stop thinking we are exempt from them. We have to stop pretending we are gods and we were meant to rule the world and possibly the universe. if we continue, we will crash. we are getting close. As we eliminate species and diversity, we decrease the changes of anything surviving after we destroy ourselves. We are very close to eliminating all life on this planet forever. Something will survive, right? Well, we hope so. But one thing is certain. It won't be us.
 
it's all about personal happiness. i for one would much rather have a job with bad pay that i enjoy than make a shitload of money doing something i hate. but i picked my major almost solely based on the fact that job placement for someone in the construction industry isn't much of a problem right now (nor does it look to be in the future with everyone building shit everywhere). it's too bad i really don't like construction that much (i would've liked to do engineering but way too late now), but it's relatively easy to find a job in the industry - plus a 2.3 GPA isn't that hard to maintain.

however, right now i am delivery driver for a sub shop in a pretty kick ass college town. it is about the easiest job in the world - i make $15-$20 an hour in cash and i get to drive around listening to music and delivering to hot chicks and getting burned by stoner kids. i work 2-3 nights a week and make plenty of money to support myself/pay off student loans, and i was skiing four days a week until i went back to classes in january.

but this isn't really a job i want to keep for the rest of my life obviously (i've been there for almost four years now and i'm guaranteed to never get a raise or insurance or anything like that). i have an offer to work for a construction company making $35k a year + benefits, with opportunities to make more than that later on, but i really don't like the work, and it involves me sacrificing so many things in my life that, even at 23, i am not ready to give up yet.

as far as advice goes, you're probably right about an art major not being able to find a job in hard economic times. but i honestly can't say i recommend doing what i did when picking my major (basing my decision only on job placement and not on whether i actually enjoyed the work). i guess some middle ground between the two would be the best. do they offer graphic design? if art is your thing then that might be a good middle ground between something you enjoy and something that will land you a decent job.

but basically christine it boils down to this. a hot chick with a college degree has it pretty easy in the job market. i wouldn't worry too much about what major you choose. i know that kinda sounds sexist, but honestly, if you have a college degree too, you've got less to worry about than 95% of the people looking to fill the same job slots you are.

-Strode

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another big problem is the state of currency. 1929 happened largely because of currency devaluation due to a lack of standard. WItht eh bretton woods confrence came the standardization of currency to gold/the american dollar. However, in the 70's with the opec crisis came a huge influx of investment into american banks. The United States eventually realized they didn't have the gold to back up the money in their banks. Nixion then introduced a floating exchange rate. Money no longer has an actual bearing in reality and all it takes is for the power to go out. Furthermore, it is in the interest of the world for the economy of the United States to have a strong currency due to economic dyanmics and essentially nixions floatign exchange rate. This is problematic in the fact that in the age of a 'global' economy it is clearly geared towards northern interests. This type of inbalance is extremely unsustainable

 
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fighting the power since 1995 ...

oh so thats what you call a getaway well tell me what you got away with cuz i'v seen more spine in a gelly fish i'v seen more guts in an 11 year old kid. have another drink and drive your self home .so you can think of me when you forget your seatbelt . and again whn you'r head smashes thro the winsheald .
 
the bush administration is 100% responsible for high fuel costs.

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One thing I've read to add to that is the increasing usage of social security and retirment funds in general. All the baby boomers are getting to retirement age, but none of them have put away much money (^savings is at a low, credit usage is high...). And, the government has pretty much spent the social security money. So, basically, a whole bunch of people are going to be banking on having a retirement income... but arent. And, since a lot of people use investment plans, mutual funds, iras etc. theyre all going to try and jump ship when they realize theres nothing there for them. So, there's supposed to be a big market crash to go along with it...

But yeah, don't just get a 'safe' degree, go out and join a company and waste your life away in some soul-sucking cubicle job. that's no good for anyone. i don't know what to say except that i don't intend to be joining the rat race when i get out of school. i don't really care about my gpa, i dont care about my placement etc. i want to actually learn something useful... which im not here... and apply it my own way... yeah. nice and clear huh?

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