The Concept of Time

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StartFragmentThe concept of timeWe are just squishy organisms that happened to evolve intomore complex critters. Time doesn’tactually exist. We just became soadvanced we wanted to keep track of what was happening and when to keep areference of history in the big picture so you can look back at an even or forwardto an event and know when exactly it was happening. What is time? Look at a clock. Its just anumber counting over and over. When is the end? We havenothing to compare time to. Wecame up with minutes and hours and days. We think a year is a long time. Yet what if a year in our time was actually an almost infinity fractionof a second in the big picture. Nowthat’s fucked up.
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why does it say start fragment and end fragment, Ive wondered that for a while now. And yes time is confusing
 
The other day I was trying to think of a definition of time and I just couldn't do it. It hurts my mind to try and contemplate this.
 
...thats just a dumb statement.

time doesnt exist. we created it. we could have made a day 48 hours instead of 24. there are no restrictions to that.
 
Time is actually considered another dimension to describe where you are in the universe though its all relative to what point you are at certain dimensions. So time like other dimensions are used to show where a relative point in the universe is located at certain time or anti-time. Time needs to exist to explain dimensions beyond the level of 4. Though time is a human concept its an actual natural phenomenon which is important in the role of all life. Minds=blown
 
Yeah I copied and pasted it from Word that's why it has StartFrangment and EndFragment. I got the idea and didn't want to forget it so I wrote it down quick and then decided since it's Sunday and i'm bored I would post it here and see what people have to say.
 
I know. the only thing we can compare time to is our own definition of time. That's what I am saying... what really is it?
 
but dictionary.com can

–noun 1. the system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other, as past, present, or future; indefinite and continuous duration regarded as that in which events succeed one another.

2. duration regarded as belonging to the present life as distinct from the life to come or from eternity; finite duration.

3. ( sometimes initial capital letter
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) a system or method of measuring or reckoning the passage of time: mean time; apparent time; Greenwich Time.

4. a limited period or interval, as between two successive events: a long time.

5. a particular period considered as distinct from other periods: Youth is the best time of life.

6. Often, times. a. a period in the history of the world, or contemporary with the life or activities of a notable person: prehistoric times; in Lincoln's time.

b. the period or era now or previously present: a sign of the times; How times have changed!

c. a period considered with reference to its events or prevailing conditions, tendencies, ideas, etc.: hard times; a time of war.

7. a prescribed or allotted period, as of one's life, for payment of a debt, etc.

8. the end of a prescribed or allotted period, as of one's life or a pregnancy: His time had come, but there was no one left to mourn over him. When her time came, her husband accompanied her to the delivery room.

9. a period with reference to personal experience of a specified kind: to have a good time; a hot time in the old town tonight.

10. a period of work of an employee, or the pay for it; working hours or days or an hourly or daily pay rate.

11. Informal . a term of enforced duty or imprisonment: to serve time in the army; do time in prison.

12. the period necessary for or occupied by something: The time of the baseball game was two hours and two minutes. The bus takes too much time, so I'll take a plane.

13. leisure time; sufficient or spare time: to have time for a vacation; I have no time to stop now.

14. a particular or definite point in time, as indicated by a clock: What time is it?

15. a particular part of a year, day, etc.; season or period: It's time for lunch.

16. an appointed, fit, due, or proper instant or period: a time for sowing; the time when the sun crosses the meridian; There is a time for everything.

17. the particular point in time when an event is scheduled to take place: train time; curtain time.

18. an indefinite, frequently prolonged period or duration in the future: Time will tell if what we have done here today was right.

19. the right occasion or opportunity: to watch one's time.

20. each occasion of a recurring action or event: to do a thing five times; It's the pitcher's time at bat.

21. times, used as a multiplicative word in phrasal combinations expressing how many instances of a quantity or factor are taken together: Two goes into six three times; five times faster.

22. Drama . one of the three unities. Compare unity ( def. 8 ) .

23. Prosody . a unit or a group of units in the measurement of meter.

24. Music . a. tempo; relative rapidity of movement.

b. the metrical duration of a note or rest.

c. proper or characteristic tempo.

d. the general movement of a particular kind of musical composition with reference to its rhythm, metrical structure, and tempo.

e. the movement of a dance or the like to music so arranged: waltz time.

25. Military . rate of marching, calculated on the number of paces taken per minute: double time; quick time.

26. Manège . each completed action or movement of the horse.

–adjective 27. of, pertaining to, or showing the passage of time.

28. (of an explosive device) containing a clock so that it will detonate at the desired moment: a time bomb.

29. Commerce . payable at a stated period of time after presentment: time drafts or notes.

30. of or pertaining to purchases on the installment plan, or with payment postponed.

–verb (used with object) 31. to measure or record the speed, duration, or rate of: to time a race.

32. to fix the duration of: The proctor timed the test at 15 minutes.

33. to fix the interval between (actions, events, etc.): They timed their strokes at six per minute.

34. to regulate (a train, clock, etc.) as to time.

35. to appoint or choose the moment or occasion for; schedule: He timed the attack perfectly.

–verb (used without object) 36. to keep time; sound or move in unison.

—Idioms 37. against time, in an effort to finish something within a limited period: We worked against time to get out the newspaper.

38. ahead of time, before the time due; early: The building was completed ahead of time.

39. at one time, a. once; in a former time: At one time they owned a restaurant.

b. at the same time; at once: They all tried to talk at one time.

40. at the same time, nevertheless; yet: I'd like to try it, but at the same time I'm a little afraid.

41. at times, at intervals; occasionally: At times the city becomes intolerable.

42. beat someone's time, Slang . to compete for or win a person being dated or courted by another; prevail over a rival: He accused me, his own brother, of trying to beat his time.

43. behind the times, old-fashioned; dated: These attitudes are behind the times.

44. for the time being, temporarily; for the present: Let's forget about it for the time being.

45. from time to time, on occasion; occasionally; at intervals: She comes to see us from time to time.

46. gain time, to postpone in order to make preparations or gain an advantage; delay the outcome of: He hoped to gain time by putting off signing the papers for a few days more.

47. in good time, a. at the right time; on time; punctually.

b. in advance of the right time; early: We arrived at the appointed spot in good time.

48. in no time, in a very brief time; almost at once: Working together, they cleaned the entire house in no time.

49. in time, a. early enough: to come in time for dinner.

b. in the future; eventually: In time he'll see what is right.

c. in the correct rhythm or tempo: There would always be at least one child who couldn't play in time with the music.

50. keep time, a. to record time, as a watch or clock does.

b. to mark or observe the tempo.

c. to perform rhythmic movements in unison.

51. kill time, to occupy oneself with some activity to make time pass quickly: While I was waiting, I killed time counting the cars on the freight trains.

52. make time, a. to move quickly, esp. in an attempt to recover lost time.

b. to travel at a particular speed.

53. make time with, Slang . to pursue or take as a sexual partner.

54. many a time, again and again; frequently: Many a time they didn't have enough to eat and went to bed hungry.

55. mark time, a. to suspend progress temporarily, as to await developments; fail to advance.

b. Military . to move the feet alternately as in marching, but without advancing.

56. on one's own time, during one's free time; without payment: He worked out more efficient production methods on his own time.

57. on time, a. at the specified time; punctually.

b. to be paid for within a designated period of time, as in installments: Many people are never out of debt because they buy everything on time.

58. out of time, not in the proper rhythm: His singing was out of time with the music.

59. pass the time of day, to converse briefly with or greet someone: The women would stop in the market to pass the time of day.

60. take one's time, to be slow or leisurely; dawdle: Speed was important here, but he just took his time.

61. time after time, again and again; repeatedly; often: I've told him time after time not to slam the door.

62. time and time again, repeatedly; often: Time and time again I warned her to stop smoking. Also, time and again.

63. time of life, (one's) age: At your time of life you must be careful not to overdo things.

64. time of one's life, Informal . an extremely enjoyable experience: They had the time of their lives on their trip to Europe.

1.

a. the continuous passage of existence in which events pass from a state of potentiality in the future, through the present, to a state of finality in the past

b. ( as modifier ): time travel Related: temporal

2.

physics caesium clock second See space-time a quantity measuring duration, usually with reference to a periodic process such as the rotation of the earth or the vibration of electromagnetic radiation emitted from certain atoms. In classical mechanics, time is absolute in the sense that the time of an event is independent of the observer. According to the theory of relativity it depends on the observer's frame of reference. Time is considered as a fourth coordinate required, along with three spatial coordinates, to specify an event

3.

a specific point on this continuum expressed in terms of hours and minutes: the time is four o'clock

4.

a system of reckoning for expressing time: Greenwich mean time

5.

a. a definite and measurable portion of this continuum

b. ( as modifier ): time limit

6.

a. an accepted period such as a day, season, etc

b. ( in combination ): springtime

7.

an unspecified interval; a while: I was there for a time

8.

( often plural ) a period or point marked by specific attributes or events: the Victorian times ; time for breakfast

9.

a sufficient interval or period: have you got time to help me?

10.

an instance or occasion: I called you three times

11.

an occasion or period of specified quality: have a good time ; a miserable time

12.

the duration of human existence

13.

the heyday of human life: in her time she was a great star

14.

a suitable period or moment: it's time I told you

15.

the expected interval in which something is done: the flying time from New York to London was seven hours

16.

a particularly important moment, esp childbirth or death: her time had come

17.

( plural ) indicating a degree or amount calculated by multiplication with the number specified: ten times three is thirty ; he earns four times as much as me

18.

( often plural ) the fashions, thought, etc, of the present age (esp in the phrases ahead of one's time, behind the times )

19.

( Brit ) (in bars, pubs, etc) short for closing time

20.

informal a term in jail (esp in the phrase do time )

21.

a. a customary or full period of work

b. the rate of pay for this period

22.

Also (esp US): metre

a. the system of combining beats or pulses in music into successive groupings by which the rhythm of the music is established

b. a specific system having a specific number of beats in each grouping or bar: duple time

23.

music short for time value

24.

prosody a unit of duration used in the measurement of poetic metre; mora

25.

against time in an effort to complete something in a limited period

26.

ahead of time before the deadline

27.

all in good time in due course

28.

all the time continuously

29.

at one time

a. once; formerly

b. simultaneously

30.

at the same time

a. simultaneously

b. nevertheless; however

31.

at times sometimes

32.

beat time (of a conductor, etc) to indicate the tempo or pulse of a piece of music by waving a baton or a hand, tapping out the beats, etc

33.

before one's time prematurely

34.

for the time being for the moment; temporarily

35.

from time to time at intervals; occasionally

36.

gain time See gain

37.

have no time for to have no patience with; not tolerate

38.

in good time

a. early

b. quickly

39.

in no time very quickly; almost instantaneously

40.

in one's own time

a. outside paid working hours

b. at one's own rate

41.

in time

a. early or at the appointed time

b. eventually

c. music at a correct metrical or rhythmic pulse

42.

keep time to observe correctly the accent or rhythmic pulse of a piece of music in relation to tempo

43.

lose time (of a timepiece) to operate too slowly

44.

lose no time to do something without delay

45.

make time

a. to find an opportunity

b. informal ( US ) ( often foll by with ) to succeed in seducing

46.

See mark

47.

in the nick of time at the last possible moment; at the critical moment

48.

on time

a. at the expected or scheduled time

b. ( US ) payable in instalments

49.

pass the time of day to exchange casual greetings (with an acquaintance)

50.

( Scot ) time about alternately; turn and turn about

51.

time and again frequently

52.

time off a period when one is absent from work for a holiday, through sickness, etc

53.

( Austral ) time on Also called (in Britain and certain other countries): extra time an additional period played at the end of a match, to compensate for time lost through injury or (in certain circumstances) to allow the teams to achieve a conclusive result

54.

time out of mind from time immemorial

55.

time of one's life a memorably enjoyable time

56.

( modifier ) operating automatically at or for a set time, for security or convenience: time lock ; time switch

vb

57.

to ascertain or calculate the duration or speed of

58.

to set a time for

59.

to adjust to keep accurate time

60.

to pick a suitable time for

61.

sport to control the execution or speed of (an action, esp a shot or stroke) so that it has its full effect at the right moment

interj

62.

the word called out by a publican signalling that it is closing time

 
all of those were thought of by humans and are just theories. We have no way of proving what the reality of what is actually happening.
 
no we really couldn't have. the whole reason we made a day twenty four hours is because thats the time it takes for the sun to rise and set. It wouldn't make any sense to have the sun rise and set twice in the same day.

Now if we had made an hour half the length it is now, then we could've made a day 48 hours.
 
time itself definitely exists.

whats purely made up by humans is obviously our measurements of time. an hour is only an hour because we said so. but something happens after something else regardless of how we record that time.
 
its a visual presentation of what M theory is which is very close to string theory all science dealing with different dimensions and time is going to be out there
 
why are you putting limits on what is considered a "day"? It's because you are so used to a day being a full light and darkness because that's what humans decided a "day" should be. That's why you can't expand on what a day could actually be.
 
your experience is proof enough that things are not always the same, hence there is time.

The perception of time is relative to our experiences, but this doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You can come up with uncertainties about time, just the same as you would about matter, but they both exist, independent of the human mind.

 
a day is just a measure of time like a year or a second and how we logically made our definition of time easier for us

year = 1 revolution aound the sun

day = 1 rotaion of earth around it axis.

and then hours minutes and seconds are all based mathmatically for easy division and calculation.

its not like some dumbass decided this is how were defining time and created random numbers.

Bcl what your trying to do is say that a inch = a meter and your forgeting conversion factors
 
its like the concept of "nothing" we can pretend we know what nothing is. but in reality we don't. because our thoughts are based off of prior experiences and we have never experienced nothing. So when we think of "nothing" we think of the absence of things which already contaminates the idea of true "nothing." CHALLENGE! right now. try to think of the concept of nothing, visualise nothing.

 
Can't see it can't hear it can't weigh it can't measure it in a laboratory.

It is the sense of becoming of what we are, instead of what we were a nanosecond ago and becoming what we will be in another nanosecond.

Time is a landscape existing before and behind us, and we move through it slice by slice.

 
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But seriously the concept has been around ever since people started looking at the sun, using a sun dial/other methods of know the time of day....of course humans will eventually evolve the system....
 
We didn't create time. We just created a measurement system of it. Saying we created time is like saying we created mass. It's always been there, we just decide on how we want to measure and quantify it.
 
time does exist because if it didn't every event that has ever happened or will happen would have all occured simultaneously
 
get really high and think of this.

at the same time think about space. like if the universe is everything, how is it always expanding? and whats it expanding into?
 
Maybe it did!??

what if everything really is happening simultaneously and our brains are so underdeveloped that we don't even realize it. maybe everything has already happened
 
i wrote my final essay for english about the concept of time, based around slaughterhouse 5 (great book by the way, huge mindfuck) it was by far the most fun and interesting essay ive ever written. time truly is an incredible thing
 
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