The biggest scams in skiing

14210983:DominatorJacques said:
Nice. Typing is a good skill. Didn't need it as much when I was in school. I am slow as hunt and peck! My skills suck.

My machine can do, but I shut off as much of that as I can.
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Yeah I should probably have gotten a job with it but I never felt like it. It can be rough because I'll slam out a billion word response without realizing it and then look at it and think oops, after I post it.

But yeah wasn't trying to throw a giant wall of text at you. I take parks too seriously and that mtn is still a bit of a sore spot for me. I'll get over it in another 5 or 10 years lol. Hope your season is off to a good start.
 
14210987:theabortionator said:
Yeah I should probably have gotten a job with it but I never felt like it. It can be rough because I'll slam out a billion word response without realizing it and then look at it and think oops, after I post it.

But yeah wasn't trying to throw a giant wall of text at you. I take parks too seriously and that mtn is still a bit of a sore spot for me. I'll get over it in another 5 or 10 years lol. Hope your season is off to a good start.
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No worries. I think you are a good guy. I've read jillions of your post.

After 4 days of workin' it hard, I needed to take a leg day, as I have been very sedentary for a long time now. Need to rebuild!

I can tell you the New Dominator Elite wax is hauling mail like I can't believe!

Be good!
 
lodge food is actually how resorts make a good portion of their profits.. bring youre own food if you dont like the price
 
14210985:SofaKingSick said:
personally I think you misinterpreted what he said but I enjoyed the vignette into the builder'a world, and that is a fiiiiire setup
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One of the nights I was working on it at like 1 am. It was raining on me a little and my bluetooth speaker had died. Had posted some pics of the progress to get people hyped for the next day and some kid bitched that there were too many rails or something. I was like fuck this I'm out lol and rolled down the mountain and left for the night to catch a few hours of sleep before coming back in the next day for the comp.

I think something about that mountain in general and that setup has me still a little salty. Also I hope people know a lot of times a mega text wall from me doesn't mean I'm mad or yelling. Usually I'm just thinking a bunch and typing too fast.
 
14210995:theabortionator said:
One of the nights I was working on it at like 1 am. It was raining on me a little and my bluetooth speaker had died. Had posted some pics of the progress to get people hyped for the next day and some kid bitched that there were too many rails or something. I was like fuck this I'm out lol and rolled down the mountain and left for the night to catch a few hours of sleep before coming back in the next day for the comp.

I think something about that mountain in general and that setup has me still a little salty. Also I hope people know a lot of times a mega text wall from me doesn't mean I'm mad or yelling. Usually I'm just thinking a bunch and typing too fast.
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I didn't read your post as angry anyway but yeah I hear ya dude, that's a ton of work that people take for granted sometimes
 
Working as a liftie or some other low wage/ low skill job for a resort, living in resort housing, eating resort food and basically becoming an indentured servant for said resort and the day you finally decide to leave you realize you know nothing else in life, the jobs in the flatlands that you are fit for are complete sh*t...

so you opt to work for another resort on the same mountain/ near the same mountain, and the cycle continues...
 
14210244:SofaKingSick said:
i've never seen one that's literally half price, though your example is prob a higher percentage of the full day price than i usually see. however damn those are amazing prices period! might be a tiny mtn but still
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Its a riverbank ski hill lol still great fun though.
 
stevens pass and many other resorts getting bought out by vail and everything price wise skyrocketing to vails overpriced shenanigans, wouldn’t be surprised if they started charging for parking.
 
14210252:BenFrost said:
Idk if anyone knows this mountain but its about a 1000' vertical drop. Gotta be one of the most expensive mountains for its size. They get a lot of traffic from NYC and long island area so they can afford to gouge tf out of prices since a lot of those fools dont know better.

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Yep. and all they do is cater to condo owners. they really try to attract people that normally go to VT. I grew up skiing here and a twilight season pass use to be $179. amazing how much they charge now. They do however have deals on night skiing and it can be fun. Their parks are garbage but the 6 pack lift takes 5 minutes to get to the top and you can do hot laps which is nice.
 
How has nobody said mounting skis? My shop has raised the price from $40 to $75 to get some holes drilled. On top of that, it usually takes over a month for my skis to get done. I'm going to use my engineering degree and design my own affordable ski jig because it is getting ridiculous. Even if you support the local shop and buy from them, the wait time is a huge problem.
 
14211767:The.Fish said:
How has nobody said mounting skis? My shop has raised the price from $40 to $75 to get some holes drilled. On top of that, it usually takes over a month for my skis to get done. I'm going to use my engineering degree and design my own affordable ski jig because it is getting ridiculous. Even if you support the local shop and buy from them, the wait time is a huge problem.
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Wait time is a thing because popular shops get super backed up. I work at a shop right now that takes over a week to finish maintenance (base refinish, binding install, binding adjustment/torque test, filling core shots) on skis because of how backed up we are. Last weekend we literally had an overflow of skis in the back and had to put them on the boot shelves because there was no more space on the racks. This being said, we are one of the few ski shops out there that are highly unlikely to fuck up your mount, our ski mechanic is really savvy and takes his job really seriously.

Most ski shops aren't like this though and having to wait over a fucking MONTH to get your skis mounted is egregious.
 
14211815:FruitBootPro said:
Wait time is a thing because popular shops get super backed up. I work at a shop right now that takes over a week to finish maintenance (base refinish, binding install, binding adjustment/torque test, filling core shots) on skis because of how backed up we are. Last weekend we literally had an overflow of skis in the back and had to put them on the boot shelves because there was no more space on the racks. This being said, we are one of the few ski shops out there that are highly unlikely to fuck up your mount, our ski mechanic is really savvy and takes his job really seriously.

Most ski shops aren't like this though and having to wait over a fucking MONTH to get your skis mounted is egregious.
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That was in October too. I dropped the skis and boots off on October 12 and picked them up November 14th. I live in Columbus, OH so it isn't like we are even super into skiing around here. However, that means there aren't many ski shops. I did get a pretty insane deal on the skis, so I didn't complain. (Tom wallisch pro, attack 13, poles, mount, and stone grind tune for $550).

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Has anyone mentioned the NS searchbar??? Whatever you guys paid for that, I hope it wasn’t much.
 
14211815:FruitBootPro said:
Wait time is a thing because popular shops get super backed up. I work at a shop right now that takes over a week to finish maintenance (base refinish, binding install, binding adjustment/torque test, filling core shots) on skis because of how backed up we are. Last weekend we literally had an overflow of skis in the back and had to put them on the boot shelves because there was no more space on the racks. This being said, we are one of the few ski shops out there that are highly unlikely to fuck up your mount, our ski mechanic is really savvy and takes his job really seriously.

Most ski shops aren't like this though and having to wait over a fucking MONTH to get your skis mounted is egregious.
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I made a 3D printed ski jig a month ago for about $15, and am working on my second model. Let me know if you have any suggestions on the first.

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/920443/3D-Printed-ski-Jig]3D Printed ski Jighttps://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/920443/3D-Printed-ski-Jig[/url]
 
14211873:Casey said:
Has anyone mentioned the NS searchbar??? Whatever you guys paid for that, I hope it wasn’t much.
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no need to waste time/money reinventing the wheel, right? for anyone reading this, the way to search this site is to google site:newschoolers.com + your search terms. works super well
 
14211767:The.Fish said:
How has nobody said mounting skis? My shop has raised the price from $40 to $75 to get some holes drilled. On top of that, it usually takes over a month for my skis to get done. I'm going to use my engineering degree and design my own affordable ski jig because it is getting ridiculous. Even if you support the local shop and buy from them, the wait time is a huge problem.
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You'd save more time and money just using a paper template as you can skip the whole design/ manufacture part along with not having to make a new jig every time you get bindings with a different mounting pattern.
 
14211881:elm. said:
I made a 3D printed ski jig a month ago for about $15, and am working on my second model. Let me know if you have any suggestions on the first.

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/920443/3D-Printed-ski-Jig]3D Printed ski Jighttps://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/920443/3D-Printed-ski-Jig[/url]
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I saw that and I really liked it. I want to take an approach like this. I want to find some sort of way to self center it on the ski to avoid the problem that your mount had with it being at a slight angle. Idk if this will require precision gears or something, but I have over a month with nothing to do until school starts again. This is more for fun than being practical. Who knows. Maybe somebody will like the idea and manufacture it.

EDIT: I drew this up really quick. I included some notches a quarter inch away from each other to check that both sides of the ski are equidistant from the center. Instead of using copper pipe, I just sketched up some tracks to get the idea down. I will go to the hardware store to find something cheap, straight and durable and make modifications from there.

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14211903:Poikenz said:
You'd save more time and money just using a paper template as you can skip the whole design/ manufacture part along with not having to make a new jig every time you get bindings with a different mounting pattern.
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I plan on making a universal system where you just drop in a new 3d printed plate for a different binding pattern. That only takes about 5 minutes of design and a few hours of print time every time you switch bindings. Plus its way more fun for engineers :)
 
14211873:Casey said:
Has anyone mentioned the NS searchbar??? Whatever you guys paid for that, I hope it wasn’t much.
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14211882:SofaKingSick said:
no need to waste time/money reinventing the wheel, right? for anyone reading this, the way to search this site is to google site:newschoolers.com + your search terms. works super well
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What Sofa said!
 
14211830:The.Fish said:
That was in October too. I dropped the skis and boots off on October 12 and picked them up November 14th. I live in Columbus, OH so it isn't like we are even super into skiing around here. However, that means there aren't many ski shops. I did get a pretty insane deal on the skis, so I didn't complain. (Tom wallisch pro, attack 13, poles, mount, and stone grind tune for $550).

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Yeah that deal is really nuts. I guess it compensates for the wait time lol
 
14211912:The.Fish said:
I plan on making a universal system where you just drop in a new 3d printed plate for a different binding pattern. That only takes about 5 minutes of design and a few hours of print time every time you switch bindings. Plus its way more fun for engineers :)
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So a non- $300 jigarex? Sorry if that ruins the fun.
 
Goggles, just plastic like a water bottle for 200$ , sure there's some rnd costs like skiing trying different lenses on,, more like rnr than rnd.
 
14209270:DominatorJacques said:
Yea, videos from Mt's about skiing powder.

The guys get early ups, so they get it virgin to do the videos. That's not reality.

Once you get there, you ride down with a thousand folks and it's tracked out in 30 minutes.

That's after waiting in a lift line for a zillion hours to get first ups.
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Never once in my life have I had this problem.
 
14209161:dant02 said:
I know my local hill just has a rack of poles for the renters that they are supposed to return at the end of the day. Literally hundreds of pairs and any length you could possibly want. Everyone I know just snags poles off the rental rack whenever they are in need.
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Still waiting on that cork 7
 
This is nuts. I can ski A-basin for like 80 bucks and I guarantee you that's a better experience. But I get it. With the amount of snow these east coast mtns need to pump out.

14213027:SofaKingSick said:
Agreed but it gets worse, Stratton has tickets for $130+ lmao
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14212895:animator said:
Gotta disagree, after owning a boot with it it makes walking so much easier
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Although I agree your Apres Life may have been gainfully impacted, think about what it did to consumers. Given that the ski industry is driven by capitalism all the bindings had to be changed to be ISO Grip Walk compatible. what did this do? Forced everyone who bought grip walk to upgrade their bindings, fueling cash flow to an upgrade that does absolutely nothing for on-hill performance. Glad the village walkabouts are performing at their optimal level tho.
 
14213717:719 said:
Although I agree your Apres Life may have been gainfully impacted, think about what it did to consumers. Given that the ski industry is driven by capitalism all the bindings had to be changed to be ISO Grip Walk compatible. what did this do? Forced everyone who bought grip walk to upgrade their bindings, fueling cash flow to an upgrade that does absolutely nothing for on-hill performance. Glad the village walkabouts are performing at their optimal level tho.
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If you're scrambling on mountains, the grip helps a lot. For example, its pretty nice to have rubber on your boot soles when you are scrambling the ridge to the top of Mt. Superior in Utah.

That being said, the binding interface thing is annoying, and the grippy soles wear out faster than normal boot soles. I'm not sure if you can get them resoled, but you probably can.
 
14213284:Jpurd said:
This is nuts. I can ski A-basin for like 80 bucks and I guarantee you that's a better experience. But I get it. With the amount of snow these east coast mtns need to pump out.
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Skiing in the northeast used to be even more wildly expensive for what you got relative to the west. Some combination of availability and wealth I guess. Pretty sure back in like 2015 or whatever a season pass to like Stowe or something was completely unaffordable - something like 2K for an adult. Even the tiny hills in CT were more expensive than an abasin season pass. There was always a good deal for like u24 but I remember thinking like f...what am I gonna do when I am 30.
 
14212254:Tnski said:
Goggles, just plastic like a water bottle for 200$ , sure there's some rnd costs like skiing trying different lenses on,, more like rnr than rnd.
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Not all plastic is created equal, dude. There's a reason that 130 flex boots cost like $550 if you subtract the aftermarket cost of the liner. The plastic/plexiglas in goggles isn't the same shit you use to store your food
 
14213739:ericforman said:
Skiing in the northeast used to be even more wildly expensive for what you got relative to the west. Some combination of availability and wealth I guess. Pretty sure back in like 2015 or whatever a season pass to like Stowe or something was completely unaffordable - something like 2K for an adult. Even the tiny hills in CT were more expensive than an abasin season pass. There was always a good deal for like u24 but I remember thinking like f...what am I gonna do when I am 30.
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I remember skiing Loon and Sunday River from like age 2 to 23/24 and every year the lift tickets went up 2-3 bucks. Loon, you could buy a day ticket for like 65-70 in the early 2000's, a season pass might be 700-800. Now a day pass at loon is pushing 120, a season pass is upwards of 1500 for no blackout dates. Its absolutely nuts.

It could be concentration of wealth, but I do think that it has a lot to do with the snowmaking these mtns have to put out and/or higher operating costs. I know the mtns are smaller, but I think they are getting really hurt by climate change, moreso than mtns out west.
 
14215494:skiguy04 said:
First post win
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I caught those fuckers red-handed scamming me. Arc Teryx is notorious for taking stuff from their outlet website and selling it as a new style on their normal website. They gave me a full refund and let me keep my item once I found out that I paid full price for an item that was an old style and previously in their outlet website.
 
Larkspur market vail: 2 eggs, a hashbrown patty and 2 slices of bacon wraped in a 3 week old tortilla. Was $10 last year, nothing changed and its $15 this year. Its 5 inches long. Trying to politely figure out what is so sprcial anout it and i get hit with a "price is a sensitive subject, sir" like ok, if price is a sensitive budget how are you running this business.

The french deli in lionshead. $28/pound for raclet off a block thats been sitting in a poorly refrigerated display for years. And the chocolate croissants are 3.25, made with the same bread as their sandwiches and use hersheys chocolate. To compare, in france the baker gets to work at 4 to make authentic pastries with good ingredients, and sells them for $0.75.

Vail business screams "help me my rent is expensive and I don't work hard".
 
Top end alpine bindings to people who don't need them. 99% of skiers should be setting their DIN to 13 or less.

Private lessons at the mega resorts unless you can split the costs with someone else. Vail charges $1049/day for a private lesson and this doesn't include a lift ticket. If you can afford to drop $1200 for a day of skiing, why wouldn't you go cat or heli skiing instead?

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14215860:broken_skier0 said:
Top end alpine bindings to people who don't need them. 99% of skiers should be setting their DIN to 13 or less.

Private lessons at the mega resorts unless you can split the costs with someone else. Vail charges $1049/day for a private lesson and this doesn't include a lift ticket. If you can afford to drop $1200 for a day of skiing, why wouldn't you go cat or heli skiing instead?

**This post was edited on Dec 21st 2020 at 4:51:06pm
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I ski din 11, but have broken a pair of pivot 12's and marker griffons because of the plastic toe. I wish they had more 13 din bindings with higher quality materials. Hopefully the resurgence of pivot 15's will bring back this market.
 
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