I have a better question...What's the WORST sports town.
I say Phoenix, and Atlanta.
I say Phoenix, and Atlanta.
The best sports city is......?
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scratchproteen
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how are the falcons not big?
Matt Ryan is a beast.
Boston, Philly or Chicago.
Minneapolis is insane when the viks, wild or twins are doing good....but Minnesota is the biggest fair weather fan state there is.
Matt Ryan is a beast.
Boston, Philly or Chicago.
Minneapolis is insane when the viks, wild or twins are doing good....but Minnesota is the biggest fair weather fan state there is.
Blindsurfer
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FUCK YES LETS DO IT
NW_Rider
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Its not the team itself, its that the people just don't give a shit about sports. My dad was there on business in 94 when the Braves were dominant and walked up to the window at first pitch and bought 2 tickets to a playoff game. Not many cities where you wouldn't have to find a scalper and pay double face value to get in to that game.
BrewskiJr
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If the criteria is for Fans, Ohio takes the cake. More specifically Cleveland. You won't find more dedicated, rowdy, die hard fans than you will in Cleveland. This is because The Browns are consistently terrible, the Indians are only good as of recent, and The Cavs... well... say no more. If you stand strong in a city where your sports teams are consistently bad, you are stronger fans than the bandwagon fans that jump on the train when a team is doing well. Cleveland fans are the best fans in the Country. Period. No one else is more dedicated than we are.
NW_Rider
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Its been tough, but the Hawks did win a playoff game last year, the Mariners are only 3 games back and have a ton of young talent we have actually been developing getting ready to come up so the future is actually looking fairly promising. Plus were in the works of getting a new arena thanks to some private money and with that we may get the Sonics back and possibly an NHL franchise which would be fucking epic.
It would be weird to switch allegiances to a new team after being a 'nucks fan all my life, especially if they win it all this year. don't really know what I would do. Probably stay loyal to who I have been with.
Anyone have any experience with this possible dilemma?
inb4 DingoSean calls me a classless asshole for being a Canucks fan
It would be weird to switch allegiances to a new team after being a 'nucks fan all my life, especially if they win it all this year. don't really know what I would do. Probably stay loyal to who I have been with.
Anyone have any experience with this possible dilemma?
inb4 DingoSean calls me a classless asshole for being a Canucks fan
BenWhit
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i respect that you're a legitimate canucks fan but they can suck my asshole. there is no reason for burrows to be on the ice last night after blatantly biting bergeron, and vancouver's classless papers proceed to mock Bergeron and the Bruins. Then Patrice gets taunted by Lapierre, sticking his fingers in his face. Any Nuck fan that denies Burrows biting Bergeron needs to get their head out of their ass.
Seattle cannot possibly be blamed for these things you speak of.
The Mariners are not always good, but when they are good, they are REALLY good. Plus, they have probably the best pitcher in the game. King Felix is ridic.
The Seahawks have at least been good lately, and their fans are STUPID loud... They sell out regardless of their record usually...
The Sonics didnt leave over fan support... they left because David Stern's a fuckall douchebag who let some owners move the team to Oklahoma City...
You can't call Seattle a bad sports town... I mean... they have better crowds than a lot of EPL clubs for SOCCER...
That's fucking impressive.
-This all being written by a guy who hates the Mariners, never was a fan of the Seahawks, and only liked the Sonics because Gary Peyton was from Oakland, Ca... but never enough to actually want them to do well. I'm an East Bay Area sports fan...
Watch Requiem for a Team if you really want to have some light shed on that SHITuation...
It almost happened to the Sacramento Kings last season... I would have fragged some bitches had that happened.
That city NEEDS a team.
That city NEEDS a team.
PaintedHearts
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Yes. Gotta love Detroit...really gotta get to a Tigers game soon. The Wings and Tigers kill it (knock on wood) and it truley is remarkable how packed Ford Field gets even with the Lions record. Love the old english D on the Tigers' jerseys (just saw a show talking about MLB jerseys haha) long history of sports teams here.
Sam.Carson
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Seattle is really good.
marsland
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people should stop using that their football team sells out even though they suck. i can only remember a few times last season that it was an issue, and i believe those times were with the chargers. nfl games almost always sell out, and if they dont, the game gets blacked out in the area. see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_television#Blackout_procedure
ill attempt a argument against boston, even though i agree it is the best. fans here have become so spoiled that anything other than contending for a championship is a let down in the MLB, NFL, and NBA. The celtics were irrelevant for a while before they got garnett and allen, and now there are way more vocal fans. the patriots were terrible in the 90's, and the red sox fan base grew so much after they won the world series. pink hat fans suck.
ill attempt a argument against boston, even though i agree it is the best. fans here have become so spoiled that anything other than contending for a championship is a let down in the MLB, NFL, and NBA. The celtics were irrelevant for a while before they got garnett and allen, and now there are way more vocal fans. the patriots were terrible in the 90's, and the red sox fan base grew so much after they won the world series. pink hat fans suck.
General_Ripper
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buffalo bitches
fujarome
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i absolutely hate enforcing what we call the pink hat rules. Things like getting people not to chant yankees suck, turning yankees suck shit inside out, and so forth.
Though i have to say, i remember going to games at fenway back when i was younger...and that place was a dump filled with a lot of assholes. These days it's a beautiful park, the fans are for the most part, friendly, and the sox make ridiculous money, which enables them to pass it along to the fans.
Remember giveaways, huge donations from the team, and things like that anytime before the late 90s/2000s? I sure as hell don't.
Though i have to say, i remember going to games at fenway back when i was younger...and that place was a dump filled with a lot of assholes. These days it's a beautiful park, the fans are for the most part, friendly, and the sox make ridiculous money, which enables them to pass it along to the fans.
Remember giveaways, huge donations from the team, and things like that anytime before the late 90s/2000s? I sure as hell don't.
BenWhit
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Decent? The patriots are almost always in superbowl contention and win their division every year, the sox are on fore and have recently won championships, the bruins are in the stanley cup, and the reva are at least decent. You must be joking when you say decent. And please tell me why you think Boston is shit for a city, ive had several people not from Boston tell me it's their favorite place to visit.
Braves couldn't sell out their upper deck during last year's MLB playoffs series against the Giants...
It would be one thing if they had an upper deck like the old cookie cutter stadiums had... but they have a baseball stadium in every sense of the word...
Falcons do better than all the rest of their teams. Least they sell out or normally sellout unless the team's godawful.
Hawks have never done all that great at the gate, They didnt sell out Phillips arena until their 8th year in the venue... and that was the 2nd playoff game in a series... they didnt even sell out the first...
They just lost the thrashers, although it was mostly to ownership issues, it also had to do with the team's fan support, which was one of the worst in the NHL. That, and they had lost the Flames before the Thrashers due to the ownership group not being able to make financial sense of anything, and because they were losing revenue at the gate again.
Anything but GT and UGA football is somewhat unimportant in Atlanta... How did that city host an Olympic games again?
It would be one thing if they had an upper deck like the old cookie cutter stadiums had... but they have a baseball stadium in every sense of the word...
Falcons do better than all the rest of their teams. Least they sell out or normally sellout unless the team's godawful.
Hawks have never done all that great at the gate, They didnt sell out Phillips arena until their 8th year in the venue... and that was the 2nd playoff game in a series... they didnt even sell out the first...
They just lost the thrashers, although it was mostly to ownership issues, it also had to do with the team's fan support, which was one of the worst in the NHL. That, and they had lost the Flames before the Thrashers due to the ownership group not being able to make financial sense of anything, and because they were losing revenue at the gate again.
Anything but GT and UGA football is somewhat unimportant in Atlanta... How did that city host an Olympic games again?
Huck_Norris
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Dude, the question was "What's the best sports city" not "who has the most knowledgable fans"
Still Boston.
Still Boston.
PaintedHearts
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Nice! I've run the bases a few times when I was younger...good times.
Well, the teams in L.A., Boston, N.Y. are perennially successful, but who roots for a favorite all the time? The same goes globally for Munich's football team, or Man U., or Chelsea. We like winners, but I'd take those hard-luck cities that manage to keep a loyal fan base despite the troubles.
So for that, Oakland, Cleveland, and Detroit.
Side note, smallest market with disproportionate success would be Pittsburgh. OK, not the Pirates, but the Steelers and Penguins.
Other side note, big metro areas with teams that seem to come up short- Atlanta, the Bay Area, Seattle.
So for that, Oakland, Cleveland, and Detroit.
Side note, smallest market with disproportionate success would be Pittsburgh. OK, not the Pirates, but the Steelers and Penguins.
Other side note, big metro areas with teams that seem to come up short- Atlanta, the Bay Area, Seattle.
fujarome
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haha its always funny to see fans' reactions at work to getting on the field. Some even say its the best moment of their life.
I have to say, having now been on the field at fenway my fair share of times...it's cool, but grounds crews do everything they can to hype it up. Stuff like acting as if your running shoes will somehow destroy the field instantly, and yelling at anyone who gets close to it.
actually the grass is quite durable...i mean, it is intended for sports to be played on it every day.
I have to say, having now been on the field at fenway my fair share of times...it's cool, but grounds crews do everything they can to hype it up. Stuff like acting as if your running shoes will somehow destroy the field instantly, and yelling at anyone who gets close to it.
actually the grass is quite durable...i mean, it is intended for sports to be played on it every day.
.Natty.
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I've never been to a bruins or sox game where they've lost. I don't go all that much though maybe 6 of each since I can remember but it's pretty nice for them to always win when I go. I've seen some epic bruins games too, OT victories, Chara winning a shootout in the 10th round, comebacks, pretty much everything good
Yeah.. I really dont mean to hate Atlanta... I think it's actually a really cool town, and the people there, from my experience there were really awesome...
Just unfortunately for them, they have done pretty shit for sports... which is weird because they have Ted Turner and so many other high rollers who should surely be down to start a quality ownership group in such a large media market.
Just unfortunately for them, they have done pretty shit for sports... which is weird because they have Ted Turner and so many other high rollers who should surely be down to start a quality ownership group in such a large media market.
God I wish I could agree here.. unfortunately I cant really, and it comes down to a few annoying issues.
1. Oakland Raiders. Had the most successful team in the area in the Raiders, and took the cake over the sad 49ers for years. Had a better stadium, better fanbase, more down to earth fanbase (blue collar vs. white collar) and they had an owner who was committed to winning. The only thing that stopped them from completely dominating during the 70's was the Steelers, who were just fucking psycho good. It always came down to Oakland and Pittsburgh in the AFC championship... and if it weren't for some goddamn immaculate deception... yeah... i'll shut up with that haha.
either way, Al Davis went full retard, moved the team to LA a year after winning the Super Bowl, and absolutely crushing everyone in the playoffs en-route to it, even as a total underdog.
But then they were in LA, disillusioned the fanbase, and all of a sudden Joe Montana comes over, and everyone jumps ship, because everyone hates LA in Norcal, and now the 49ers have the entire football fanbase. 5 superbowls later, nobody gave a shit about the Raiders when they returned to Oakland, and a newly renovated and nearly ruined-perfectly good baseball stadium in Oakland. They rarely sold out because of the PSL's.. They sell out now when the team's on it (they were pretty decent last year - raped the division) but still, the 49ers have the majority of the fans. Serious Raider fans really ARE into it though... Raider Nation is still massive, and LA still roots for the team, because they hate the Chargers and 49ers hardcore... and the Halloweenesque atmosphere is unbelievable (go to a game and sit in the black hole sometime. its rowdy as shit, and you're guaranteed to see hot tits)
2. Oakland A's. Only non-Yankee Dynasty, and home of where a lot of the Yankee's best players have come from anyways... (Maris, Giambi, Reggie Jackson.. shall I keep it up?). 4 world series, 6 ALCS championships (both of them AL dynasties). They are the more successful team in the bay area, but didnt come till a decade after the Giants had a foothold, and even in their best years, still were not as popular for some dumb reason. Although.. the Bay Area is highly known to bandwagon hardcore for baseball.. Unlike Chicago and NY, fans are fans of both teams for some reason, and its downright retarded, and makes both sides look terrible. With the Giants world series last year, the A's bandwagon's all but gone, and with the ruined stadium thanks to Shallow Al, they play in the worst baseball stadium in the majors. Talks of moving to San Jose are making fans jump ship as well, even though the team is consistant as shit with Billy Beane as the GM - one of the best in sports. They do pretty bad at the gate, and will only sell out now if they go on a massive tear, are playing the yankees/sox/giants (where they are outnumbered by bandwagon fans typically) or are in the playoffs (where they usually command a massive bandwagon base) They're my favourite baseball team, but There's some issues - mostly stadium issues, that need to be addressed. I miss the old coliseum, and as much of a Raider fan as I am (dad grew up in Oakland going to games at Frank Youll field, before they built the Coliseum), I hate what's happened to the stadium... It's back to waiting for prospects to gel again in the meantime... and theyre on a huge slump at the moment, so thats really not helping shit at all.
3. Warriors. Clippers-North. They, like the other teams in Oakland, won championships in the 70's (yeah, you know how Boston seems to keep winning them? That was Oakland in the 70's), but they havent been shit since. They were decent in the late 1990's but aside from a 8th seed massive upset a few years ago in the playoffs, haven't done jack squat. They rebranded the team and are looking better for the future now, but they aren't even the best team in Northern California. I'm a Kings fan (another team that might move - fucking hell...) and, with Oakland being such a huge basketball outlet as it is (Bill Russell, Paul Pierce, Leon Powe, Gary Peyton, Jason Kidd, etc) the team does it a massive disservice to it's surrounding areas.
4. California Golden Seals. First team in the bay area, only were around for less than a decade or so, had like 6 owners, including former A's owner Charlie Finley who didnt know what the fuck hockey was, and tried to introduce white skates that looked fuckin goofy. He would trade first overall draft picks for not-too-proven potential players, and even traded away the pick that landed Guy Lafleur for pissall... They did okay at the gate when they were playoff-contending, but they were just so bad all the time that nobody really cared to actually come out for games. It was like an Atlanta situation, but worse because that team actually contended usually, instead of being in the pit of the NHL all the time. They moved to Cleveland, only to suck it up for 2 more years there, and were merged into the Northstars. The only good thing that came of them, is that when the first owners of the sharks wanted a hockey team, they were able to sell their share in the Northstars, and be granted a new team in the Bay Area, which had been itching for hockey ever since the team left, and the glory days of the league in the 80's enticed bay area fans to watch the sport.
The problem with Oakland really lies in it's poor performing teams (warriors), Bad Stadium (coliseum), and Ownership that kinda screwed some things up (Al Davis).
If my dream happens, and the A's get a new stadium, Al Davis hires and KEEPS a coach around, and the Warriors get an ownership group that's committed to actually winning (not that I care because the NBA's rigged anyways), then Oakland can return to it's 1970's success - as of right now though, everyone's been paying attention to San Francisco's teams, and are more likely to be Lakers fans now just due to some of the bandwagon nature of a lot of people in the area.
Least we have Cal Bears Football... (oh wait, they're undergoing stadium renovations and are playing in San Francisco's baseball stadium next year. fuck haha.)
1. Oakland Raiders. Had the most successful team in the area in the Raiders, and took the cake over the sad 49ers for years. Had a better stadium, better fanbase, more down to earth fanbase (blue collar vs. white collar) and they had an owner who was committed to winning. The only thing that stopped them from completely dominating during the 70's was the Steelers, who were just fucking psycho good. It always came down to Oakland and Pittsburgh in the AFC championship... and if it weren't for some goddamn immaculate deception... yeah... i'll shut up with that haha.
either way, Al Davis went full retard, moved the team to LA a year after winning the Super Bowl, and absolutely crushing everyone in the playoffs en-route to it, even as a total underdog.
But then they were in LA, disillusioned the fanbase, and all of a sudden Joe Montana comes over, and everyone jumps ship, because everyone hates LA in Norcal, and now the 49ers have the entire football fanbase. 5 superbowls later, nobody gave a shit about the Raiders when they returned to Oakland, and a newly renovated and nearly ruined-perfectly good baseball stadium in Oakland. They rarely sold out because of the PSL's.. They sell out now when the team's on it (they were pretty decent last year - raped the division) but still, the 49ers have the majority of the fans. Serious Raider fans really ARE into it though... Raider Nation is still massive, and LA still roots for the team, because they hate the Chargers and 49ers hardcore... and the Halloweenesque atmosphere is unbelievable (go to a game and sit in the black hole sometime. its rowdy as shit, and you're guaranteed to see hot tits)
2. Oakland A's. Only non-Yankee Dynasty, and home of where a lot of the Yankee's best players have come from anyways... (Maris, Giambi, Reggie Jackson.. shall I keep it up?). 4 world series, 6 ALCS championships (both of them AL dynasties). They are the more successful team in the bay area, but didnt come till a decade after the Giants had a foothold, and even in their best years, still were not as popular for some dumb reason. Although.. the Bay Area is highly known to bandwagon hardcore for baseball.. Unlike Chicago and NY, fans are fans of both teams for some reason, and its downright retarded, and makes both sides look terrible. With the Giants world series last year, the A's bandwagon's all but gone, and with the ruined stadium thanks to Shallow Al, they play in the worst baseball stadium in the majors. Talks of moving to San Jose are making fans jump ship as well, even though the team is consistant as shit with Billy Beane as the GM - one of the best in sports. They do pretty bad at the gate, and will only sell out now if they go on a massive tear, are playing the yankees/sox/giants (where they are outnumbered by bandwagon fans typically) or are in the playoffs (where they usually command a massive bandwagon base) They're my favourite baseball team, but There's some issues - mostly stadium issues, that need to be addressed. I miss the old coliseum, and as much of a Raider fan as I am (dad grew up in Oakland going to games at Frank Youll field, before they built the Coliseum), I hate what's happened to the stadium... It's back to waiting for prospects to gel again in the meantime... and theyre on a huge slump at the moment, so thats really not helping shit at all.
3. Warriors. Clippers-North. They, like the other teams in Oakland, won championships in the 70's (yeah, you know how Boston seems to keep winning them? That was Oakland in the 70's), but they havent been shit since. They were decent in the late 1990's but aside from a 8th seed massive upset a few years ago in the playoffs, haven't done jack squat. They rebranded the team and are looking better for the future now, but they aren't even the best team in Northern California. I'm a Kings fan (another team that might move - fucking hell...) and, with Oakland being such a huge basketball outlet as it is (Bill Russell, Paul Pierce, Leon Powe, Gary Peyton, Jason Kidd, etc) the team does it a massive disservice to it's surrounding areas.
4. California Golden Seals. First team in the bay area, only were around for less than a decade or so, had like 6 owners, including former A's owner Charlie Finley who didnt know what the fuck hockey was, and tried to introduce white skates that looked fuckin goofy. He would trade first overall draft picks for not-too-proven potential players, and even traded away the pick that landed Guy Lafleur for pissall... They did okay at the gate when they were playoff-contending, but they were just so bad all the time that nobody really cared to actually come out for games. It was like an Atlanta situation, but worse because that team actually contended usually, instead of being in the pit of the NHL all the time. They moved to Cleveland, only to suck it up for 2 more years there, and were merged into the Northstars. The only good thing that came of them, is that when the first owners of the sharks wanted a hockey team, they were able to sell their share in the Northstars, and be granted a new team in the Bay Area, which had been itching for hockey ever since the team left, and the glory days of the league in the 80's enticed bay area fans to watch the sport.
The problem with Oakland really lies in it's poor performing teams (warriors), Bad Stadium (coliseum), and Ownership that kinda screwed some things up (Al Davis).
If my dream happens, and the A's get a new stadium, Al Davis hires and KEEPS a coach around, and the Warriors get an ownership group that's committed to actually winning (not that I care because the NBA's rigged anyways), then Oakland can return to it's 1970's success - as of right now though, everyone's been paying attention to San Francisco's teams, and are more likely to be Lakers fans now just due to some of the bandwagon nature of a lot of people in the area.
Least we have Cal Bears Football... (oh wait, they're undergoing stadium renovations and are playing in San Francisco's baseball stadium next year. fuck haha.)
SkiThe603
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No New York is a bunch of pussies, Boston is a great sports city, the Sox, Bruins, Celtics, and Pats are all top tier team. The Yankees are good, the Knicks are okay, Jets sucks and Sanchez is a bitch. The Red Bulls are stupid because they are not even a good MLS team and The Islanders & Rangers are both really bad. SO yes, FUCK NEW YORK.
hey-dude-its-me
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Its New York, the only people who think its Boston are the people who live in Boston. You will always be second place to New York in everything including sports. Your city is boring as fuck.
Not to mention.. most play in New Jersey...
The Yankees are good, but reap the benifits of cashgrabbing in a non-payroll capped league. The Mets are a mess all the time, and never play up to potential. The Knicks havent won since 1970, and have been mostly terrible for the last decade. the Jets and Giants play in New jersey, but even so... the Jets have been mostly useless, and the Giants, though successful, aren't quite a fanbase like the Cowboys or 49ers earned.. Hell, there's a shitload of Bills fans in the city that could probably fill the Meadowlands on their own...
The Isles play on the Island so they dont count, but if they did, theres 4 straight Stanley cup victories, invention of the playoff beard, and the rebirth of hockey as we know it all in one team. The Rangers have won it 1 time in the last gazillion years and live off that one victory as if it's the greatest achievement anyone has ever had ever - regardless of their absolutely being the favourites in that final against a 7th seeded Vancouver that didn't have to go through Detroit to get there. They have made some insanely questionable moves in recent years, and Besides Toronto and the Isles themselves, the Rangers are one of the worst trainwrecks in the league as far as front office goes...
The nets should move to Brooklyn soon, but we'll see how that all goes... and the Devils, though only like a river away from the city, cant be counted as they're part of guidoland.
all their teams do seem to have their loyal fans and whatnot, but it's hard not to find enough people to fill the MSG or Meadowlands when you are one of the top metro areas in the world as far as population goes...
Overhyped, overrated, New York isn't all that great IMO...
The Yankees are good, but reap the benifits of cashgrabbing in a non-payroll capped league. The Mets are a mess all the time, and never play up to potential. The Knicks havent won since 1970, and have been mostly terrible for the last decade. the Jets and Giants play in New jersey, but even so... the Jets have been mostly useless, and the Giants, though successful, aren't quite a fanbase like the Cowboys or 49ers earned.. Hell, there's a shitload of Bills fans in the city that could probably fill the Meadowlands on their own...
The Isles play on the Island so they dont count, but if they did, theres 4 straight Stanley cup victories, invention of the playoff beard, and the rebirth of hockey as we know it all in one team. The Rangers have won it 1 time in the last gazillion years and live off that one victory as if it's the greatest achievement anyone has ever had ever - regardless of their absolutely being the favourites in that final against a 7th seeded Vancouver that didn't have to go through Detroit to get there. They have made some insanely questionable moves in recent years, and Besides Toronto and the Isles themselves, the Rangers are one of the worst trainwrecks in the league as far as front office goes...
The nets should move to Brooklyn soon, but we'll see how that all goes... and the Devils, though only like a river away from the city, cant be counted as they're part of guidoland.
all their teams do seem to have their loyal fans and whatnot, but it's hard not to find enough people to fill the MSG or Meadowlands when you are one of the top metro areas in the world as far as population goes...
Overhyped, overrated, New York isn't all that great IMO...
hey-dude-its-me
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anyone with enough time to type all the shit you've typed in this thread shouldnt be trusted