The balance between hucking and style

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Big_Willy

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The schrab thread intrigued me and I think it would be cool to talk about this.

Do you think spinning excessively is becoming too unstylee? I mean its difficult and we want the sport to progress but even if you can add a nice grab in there your still spinning so fast that it kinda looks gay.

Also, the more shit you do, i.e. double misties the more it becomes like arials, with or without grabs.

Sorry if this sounds redundant, if you dont like this thread dont reply.

 
When people first started doing tricks they had no style. But over time they started doing the tricks better with more style. This will will eventually happen with all the insane tricks that people are hucking now. Later

-matt

'I know a guy named Pedro who looks like a monkey.'
 
ok, some people can put style into big spins(CR, Andy Woods, Scott Hobbert to name a few), but whenever i see double flips, theyre always ugly..its just they way people do it, like ive never seen anyone do a good double back without having to hit a huge-ass kicker...

PS...this is what I think...dont go ragging on me just cause u think different!



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Yeah, there is a fine line between spinning big and spinning big with style. Cusson does a 1080 in the game that has alot of style(even though he doesnt quite stick it) But a 1080 on a 20ft table that is all over the place sucks! I'd like to see smooth tricks rather than a sloppy 1440. Hopefully that is where skiing is heading, into the backcountry!

The one and only Delnegro283rd
 
I prefer the stylie tricks also. But that doesn't mean I think that people should avoid doing insane spins and flips. Think back to your first 360. Not one of you can tell me that it looked smooth or stylie. But you worked your ass off to get better, you gave it style and grabs and then maybe added more rotations. Its called progression. No one is going to do a double flip with style right away, but watch for this season and I bet you will see people starting to do them with style. Peace,

-matt

'I know a guy named Pedro who looks like a monkey.'
 
i'd rather a nice 180 mute, than a 1620. check out the new Scandalous! trailer for a nice 180 mute by kristi

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Candide throws one of the best double backs I have ever seen in Global Storming. I remember when guys first started doing 900's and they looked damn sloppy, now people are throwing smooth 9's. Big sloppy tricks are all part of the evolution of skiing. Eventually someone will make the trick look smooth in most cases.

 
Still, I consider that any speed of more then 900 degreee became unstylie when done over normal jump (like the jump they use at X) but can be super stylie when done over huge jump like the one at tremblant coté obscur and the jump were CR did the corked 1260 lui kan. When you hit such a jump, you do not have to spin like a slut to do 1080 and 1260 but over normaljump, they are to fast to be style.

The best way to do style huge spin is not to spin faster but to go higher and get mad air.

By the way, When candide does any move, it look always smooth and fluid (except in the pipe were he seem to have fun with spread eagles) and his double back in balance were not really hucked, he was so smooth and efforthless.

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But if people are too style concious to bother experimenting with more technical tricks, we're never going to see anything new

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You can create new tick by putting your style into some trick you can do. Vinni created the underflip when he was praticing backflip.

And the other way is to try to do combo of different trick like starting a misty butthrowing your head backward when you face the ground wich will throw you in a flyppy spinny thing on the back.

:) Cédric Tremblay-Fournier :)
 
Gregg and Graves know whats going on. In order to style a trick you must first huck it. Peace.

-matt

'I know a guy named Pedro who looks like a monkey.'
 
My first in-line 360 was ugly as sin... now it's as smooth as a woman's..... well, you get the idea

Sometimes, the darkness inside becomes to painful to conceal - thus is born a dark sensuality obsessed with love and hate, sex and death: which in reality is the true essence of our pathos
 
i definetly think that you need to spin more,flip more and create new insane trix, over time they will DEFINETLY become more stylish, in a couple years double backs will be easy and they will be so stylish and skiers will be spinnin 10004000 like theres no tommoro

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Just let the sport go where its headed, the cool thing is, we aren't to sure where it is headed for the time being. Don't be so worried about what aspect is better....

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my opinion is that anybody can practice some move all day and throw it with some style, but it takes a lot more to go out and constantly try different crazy hucks off all sorts of different terrain. i dunno about the freeskiers, but i'd rather watch jamie thomas skate than ronnie creager.

 
True, there is a need to progress and with 'practice' tricks will become easier and more stylie, but is it even possible to style a 1440? Look at coolboarders, its not that good of an example but it'll do. Whenever you spin massively with flippys it looks pretty gay but a 720 flippy looks cool. Is there a threshold even off giant 100+ foot tables?

 
I think style is over rated...definetly it can make a trick look smooth, and will help win contests, but I would rather see somebody huck themselves than do a stylie 180 like some people said. I love watching people huck off huge hits and cliffs, thats the best...And to all the people who say they think that schrabs double misty was ugly and no good, you've got to give props to the guy for trying crazy shit that no one else in the newschool scene is even attempting. How many of you can even land a misty 7, let alone a double misty? Give credit to how difficult that is.

 
I think that crazy hucks are rad and watching people do a double back or huck a huge spin is just as cool as seeing some one do a smooth 5 tail. But once you start doing a certain amount of rotations you will have to spin so fast that it would be extremely hard to make it look stylie. I think big spins like that 1080 JF does in the game at the gravity games i think is awesome but whatever that huge ratation is in the japan section is cool at first cause its like o shit look what he just did but if everyone justs hucks like crazy it gets boring to watch.

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As stated before everyone experiments and thats how we get bigger tricks with more style. Its cool, it should be done. Tricks are just getting bigger and bigger. Think back to JF's switch back in Degen, now look at some of the other movies with jon olsson's switch backs and some dude in (tgr movie maybe?) another movie that does the biggest one i've seen. bigger is better.

 
The only limit to how big a spin you can do with style is how much air you can get without shattering your ankles when you land. Peace.

-matt

'I know a guy named Pedro who looks like a monkey.'
 
Yeah... Jon Olsson's fakie 180 is fuckin' sick. It's a simple pop trick but it's so smooth and stylie. Super balancing on the swith take-off!

 
this thread is 5 years old. what are your thaughts on how far weve progressed on hucks?

I think spins look super styley I really like TJs

and as for double back flips all the ones in Teddybear crisis were dope and in the Push teaser that switch double back flip was super sick and was landed like if it was a 5ft jump.
 
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