The answer to "what binding"

13958611:TBONE902 said:
Salomon STH's have a decent amount of adjustment (about a boot size each direction) and are a solid binding with a good selection of brake widths. The brakes are also easy / inexpensive to change up if you move them to a different ski.
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Would you recommend sth's for a pair of YLE's. 115 brakes at 118 Underfoot?
 
Salomon sth2 WTR 16 or Salomon Guardian MNC 16 .....but if I had to choose one binding for the rest of my life, it would be the Guardians
 
topic:DHogg said:
14/15 Din Bindings: I would recommend a 14/15 din binding generally only for people who are 175lbs+ as well as being a pretty aggressive skier.
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Hello all, I am a beginner, certainly not an aggressive skier... yet. Some stats of me below. Being over 230 pounds does this automatically put me into the 14/15 Din Bindings category?

LOCATION: New England, East coast

HEIGHT/AGE/WEIGHT: 5'9" / 45 years old / 230lbs

ABILITY LEVEL: Beginner
 
13979746:Vincent_Diesel said:
Hello all, I am a beginner, certainly not an aggressive skier... yet. Some stats of me below. Being over 230 pounds does this automatically put me into the 14/15 Din Bindings category?

LOCATION: New England, East coast

HEIGHT/AGE/WEIGHT: 5'9" / 45 years old / 230lbs

ABILITY LEVEL: Beginner
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no i don't think so. your boot sole length will also affect your DIN setting so i can't tell you what setting will be recommended to you but it isn't gonna be even close to 14 since you're a beginner/novice. if i were you i'd get a binding that goes up to 12 (usually will mean a "12" is included in the name, e.g. Look Pivot 12), since under that is usually a kids' binding, but you don't need anything burlier
 
13979983:SofaKingSick said:
no i don't think so. your boot sole length will also affect your DIN setting so i can't tell you what setting will be recommended to you but it isn't gonna be even close to 14 since you're a beginner/novice. if i were you i'd get a binding that goes up to 12 (usually will mean a "12" is included in the name, e.g. Look Pivot 12), since under that is usually a kids' binding, but you don't need anything burlier
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Thank you. My boot sole length is 319. Found a great deal on some "11" DIN bindings. Will that still be sufficient given my weight and ability?
 
13980020:Vincent_Diesel said:
Thank you. My boot sole length is 319. Found a great deal on some "11" DIN bindings. Will that still be sufficient given my weight and ability?
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well then your recommended DIN is going to be quite low (like 6 if i had to guess) but what 11 bindings are they? 11 and under bindings usually are made for kids and though you aren't an aggressive skier, you are big and heavy enough to maybe want something not constructed quite so lightly
 
13980023:SofaKingSick said:
well then your recommended DIN is going to be quite low (like 6 if i had to guess) but what 11 bindings are they? 11 and under bindings usually are made for kids and though you aren't an aggressive skier, you are big and heavy enough to maybe want something not constructed quite so lightly
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They are Tyrolia Attack 11. Think they are suitable for me? I did a quick DIN calculation and I think they should be set at 7. I already bought them, but may pass them off to my wife who is a lot lighter than I am if they are not for me.
 
13980479:Vincent_Diesel said:
They are Tyrolia Attack 11. Think they are suitable for me? I did a quick DIN calculation and I think they should be set at 7. I already bought them, but may pass them off to my wife who is a lot lighter than I am if they are not for me.
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i mean, they'll be fine if youre not skiing hard at all. if you plan to go hard at all then yes i'd put those on your wife's skis
 
Hi Gear Talk members,

I am a new ski learner. The ski resort gave me a ski size 130cm and I am comfortable with it.

I am 45 yrs old female, new ski learner, height 4’11 , weight 140 lb.

I am looking to buy a skis with size 130. And I will have a a professional binder setup the binder for me.

But I have a hard time to select one. I don’t understand the some numbers.

Here is the Question on ski I want to buy: Elan Starr QS Kid's Ski with EL 4.5 Binding. What does “EL 4.5 Binding” mean? Can I use this ski?

https://www.theskibum.com/elan-starr-qs-kids-ski-with-el-45-binding-af2bmw-16?utm_source=google&utm_medium=pla&utm_campaign=ep4p&utm_term=&utm_content=&ep4p_ref=google_pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuvPgyKyY4QIVRFcNCh39jwi9EAkYASABEgLx3fD_BwE

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14015563:1000 said:
Hi Gear Talk members,

I am a new ski learner. The ski resort gave me a ski size 130cm and I am comfortable with it.

I am 45 yrs old female, new ski learner, height 4’11 , weight 140 lb.

I am looking to buy a skis with size 130. And I will have a a professional binder setup the binder for me.

But I have a hard time to select one. I don’t understand the some numbers.

Here is the Question on ski I want to buy: Elan Starr QS Kid's Ski with EL 4.5 Binding. What does “EL 4.5 Binding” mean? Can I use this ski?

https://www.theskibum.com/elan-starr-qs-kids-ski-with-el-45-binding-af2bmw-16?utm_source=google&utm_medium=pla&utm_campaign=ep4p&utm_term=&utm_content=&ep4p_ref=google_pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuvPgyKyY4QIVRFcNCh39jwi9EAkYASABEgLx3fD_BwE

**This post was edited on Mar 23rd 2019 at 9:51:35am

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Welcome, I hope your new hobby has been fun this season.

A couple of notes: this particular website is mostly focused on freestyle and freeride type skiing though there is a wealth of knowledge on all types of skiing and a lot of industry folks, everyone from shop rats to product development people and CEOs.

Please start by reading this guidehttps://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/best-skis-for-beginners-a-guide from a very helpful website with incredible amounts of information on snow sports gear.

The skis you linked are kids skis and won't be suitable for your weight and strength. You should be on skis longer than 130 and while that's somewhat a preference thing the article linked above will provide a solid explanation of my reasoning.

I'd suggest shopping demo skis if you're on a tight budget, just guessing based on the link you posted? While not necessarily my suggestions for you a brief search turns up options like this:
https://www.powder7.com/K2-Luv-Machine-74Ti-Skis-146cm-Used-2018/for-sale

As it turns out it's not as easy as I'd thought to find super discounted skis in the 145cm ballpark. I know they're popular sizes with smaller female recreational skiers, but I'm sure with some digging and getting later into spring some decent sub-$300 options should be around.

So please tell us where you live/ski, if you have a budget in mind, and another questions you may have.

Also it might be a good idea to start a whole thread asking for advice on skis for you and also looking athttps://www.pugski.com/ which I think has more information geared towards recreational skiers, I'm not saying by any means this site isn't for you just suggesting another possibility.
 
I’m looking to buy a set of Atomic Wardens for my Cochises, but I’m not sure of the brake sizing. The Shift brakes seem to run larger than their stated width. Does anyone know if this is also the case with the Wardens? Should I be okay with the 100mm or should I just size up to the 115?
 
14017147:Hoel said:
I’m looking to buy a set of Atomic Wardens for my Cochises, but I’m not sure of the brake sizing. The Shift brakes seem to run larger than their stated width. Does anyone know if this is also the case with the Wardens? Should I be okay with the 100mm or should I just size up to the 115?
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i would go with a 115mm brake
 
14113716:backyardcracker said:
what DIN are the Tyrolia Attack 11s?
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the number in a binding model name pretty much always either has the max DIN number (Attack 11, max DIN is 11) or a hint toward it (Rossignol 120s, max din is 12). then the range will depend on the model. attack 11s have a DIN range from 3 to 11

if you haven't bought them yet, i'd probably opt for the attack 13s as the 11s are a smaller person/beginner binding. they'll be fine for normal easy stuff but not for gnarly sendy stuff, so if that's in your future you might wanna go with the 13s (excellent bindings, still a great price usually)
 
14113736:SofaKingSick said:
the number in a binding model name pretty much always either has the max DIN number (Attack 11, max DIN is 11) or a hint toward it (Rossignol 120s, max din is 12). then the range will depend on the model. attack 11s have a DIN range from 3 to 11

if you haven't bought them yet, i'd probably opt for the attack 13s as the 11s are a smaller person/beginner binding. they'll be fine for normal easy stuff but not for gnarly sendy stuff, so if that's in your future you might wanna go with the 13s (excellent bindings, still a great price usually)
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Alright cool, seems obvious now that you explained it. Thank you

I already have the 11's actually, but might opt for the 13's now that ik this.
 
I love getting reminded of how skinny I am when I see people considering 10 to be the minimum. I rock 8s and have never once had a problem.
 
Can I get some alpine binding advice for my gf? She's a longtime snowboarder but she's been learning to ski for the last year and a half. She's been on a seasonal rental setup which is fine for learning, but she's at the point where she's comfortable on blues and getting more comfortable on blacks. At this point, her Rossi Experience rentals aren't doing her any favors.

She just bought a pair of Moment Sierra 162s and we're considering which bindings to mount. She runs a 5.5 DIN. I'd suggest Pivot 18s (duh, obviously), but she's getting new boots at the start of next season and I'd hate to risk a remount if her BSL changes.

I want to help her choose a quality binding (with a little bit of BSL adjustability) to pair with her new skis. Are the SPX 12s any good? STH 13s? Attack 13s? Any advice for this segment?
 
attacks are light cheap and bomb proof

14399558:BrandoComando said:
Can I get some alpine binding advice for my gf? She's a longtime snowboarder but she's been learning to ski for the last year and a half. She's been on a seasonal rental setup which is fine for learning, but she's at the point where she's comfortable on blues and getting more comfortable on blacks. At this point, her Rossi Experience rentals aren't doing her any favors.

She just bought a pair of Moment Sierra 162s and we're considering which bindings to mount. She runs a 5.5 DIN. I'd suggest Pivot 18s (duh, obviously), but she's getting new boots at the start of next season and I'd hate to risk a remount if her BSL changes.

I want to help her choose a quality binding (with a little bit of BSL adjustability) to pair with her new skis. Are the SPX 12s any good? STH 13s? Attack 13s? Any advice for this segment?
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7164104:Ian.Ham said:
Ok so i weigh 145 and when i get my skis mounted i put level III+ and the highest the shop will put them is at like 6 or 7. i usually turn them up to 10 should i do that or not?
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I do that too and I’ve had no problems with knee injuries
 
topic:DHogg said:
Ok, so lately I’ve been noticing a ton of threads asking what bindings would suit them the best and as winter gets closer there’s gonna be a ton more, so I thought it’d be a good idea to have a thread which includes some info to your questions when considering binding choices.

Main things to consider when selecting bindings are skier weight, skier ability, binding price, and type of skiing you will be using it for.

There’s a lot of bindings around so I’m going to stick to the more popular ones and the ones i’ve had experience with.

First off, i’m assuming ability rating of II and III here:

10 Din and below bindings: I would recommend a 10 din and under binding for light weight skiers. Even for a skier who is rates themselves as level III ability, if they are under about 120lbs a 10 din might even be a bit much depending on the min setting of the binding. For reference, a din chart estimates a din of 6 (varies slightly depending on a few factors) for a level III skier between 108-125lbs.

12 Din Bindings: I would usually recommend a 12 din binding for people between 145lbs and 170/175lbs or so depending on ability. For most people on here, a 12 din binding would be perfect. If you’re a more cautious skier and don’t go fast, take impact ect you should really go down to a 10 din or below binder. Likewise if your aggressive skier you can go up, but be realistic. Don’t get an 18 din binding because if makes you look cool. You won’t be thinking its cool when you’re getting knee surgery and can’t ski half the winter.

14/15 Din Bindings: I would recommend a 14/15 din binding generally only for people who are 175lbs+ as well as being a pretty aggressive skier. Basically, if you’re not rating yourself as a level III skier and doing big jumps, cliff hucks, and skiing fast ect, you don’t need it and your better off saving your money.

18 + Din bindings: I would only recommend an 18+ din binding for people who are skiing very aggressively and are reasonably heavy. I would normally only recommend something like this for big mtn skiers where you only want your skis to come off in pretty gnarly bails.

All of these recommendations give you some “leeway” of the max din of the binding for the particular weight at a level lll skier. You don’t really want to be within 2 dins of the max. So for a 10 Din binding, you don’t really want to be setting it above about 8, likewise if it starts at 5 you don’t really want to se it too far below 7. So yeah..check the din range first.

10/11 Din er’s:

-Tyrolia Peak 11 (3-11)

-Rossignol freeski 100

-Look PX 10

-Look P10

-Rossi SAS 100

-head Mojo 11

-Rossi SAS2 110

12 Din er’s:

-Marker Griffon

-Look PX 12/Dynastar PX12/ PX12 jib

-Look P12

-Rossignol FKS 120

-Head Mojo/ Tyrolia Peak/ Amplid (all the same)

-Rossignol Axial 120

-Rossignol Axial worldcup 120

-Salomon STH 12

-Rossi SAS 120

-Rossi Axial2 120

-Rossi scratch 120

-Tyrolia freeflex 12

-4frnt deadbolt 12

-Rossi SAS 110

14/15/16s :

-Rossignol FKS 155

-Rossignol freeski 140

-Rossignol freeski 150

-Rossignol Axial 140

-Marker Jester

-Head Mojo 15/Tyrolia Peak 15

-Look PX14/PX15

-Salomon STH 16

-Salomon STH 14

-Salomon S914 Lab

-Tyrolia Freeflex 15

-Rossi SAS2 140

-Rossi SAS2 140 Ti

-4frnt deadbolt 14

18+ :

-Look P18

-Rossignol FKS 185

-Rossignol freeski 180

-Tyrolia Freeflex 18

-Salomon s920

-Salomon S916 (only goes to 16, but I’d put it up there with p18’s ect)

-rossi Freeski 200

-Rossi freeski2 180

-Rossi SAS2 200

Remember, this is a general GUDIELINE ONLY. There are a huge number of factors to consider. I know people who weigh nothing but are hucking off 60 foot cliffs, so they need a high din binding to keep them in. I know just as many people who like to ski on groomers and take it easy so don’t need a high din binding even though they are heavy. Ask yourself how heavy you are, how hard you ski. Where you ski, what you ski, and what ski your putting it on when choosing a binding.

DISCLAIMER: If you don’t know what you’re doing, do everyone a favour and don’t fuck with your dins. Any adjustments you make are at your own risk. Most shops will check your bindings and set dins for nothing, yes for FREE. So let them do it. Why put yourself in risk you don’t need to.

Why are my skis still pre-releasing? There set at like 16 and I weigh 150lbs !!!??????

A lot of people crank up their dins because there skis keep coming off when in reality, there forward pressures set wrong which just increases knee injury as you need so much force to get the ski off in slower crashes. Bottom line: Go to a store to have it checked out.

I know i haven't covered everything or listed all the binding so feel free to ad. We could maybe make it some kind of binding database.

-Dave
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I would say that I avoid anything with one of those irritating spring mechanism sliding plates under the toe end of your boot, likes of what you find on toe piece of Look SPX12 and pivot 14 bindings. I have had both of these, a pair of SPX12 and pivot 14 get ruined within a season because the mechanism got screwed up, and so will not buy anything with that mechanism on it again as a result. In both cases Look basically told me to GTF when I asked for a refund/replacement. Currently I'm using Salomon STH2 WTR on one setup and Look pivot 18s on the other one I have. But will again most likely go pivot 18 on my new set of ARV96s that I bought in the end of season sales this year after the lack of snow in Les 2 Alpes trashed my J-Ski masterblasters this season :-)
 
Because I’m lazy: can someone tell me a good 10-12 binding that’s cheap? I don’t ski as hard as I used to. I used to set my dins at 8(but pretty sure I technically should be at a 6.5 or something like that). Groomers and some powder runs when the opportunity presents itself. 10 day a year kinda skier. I really don’t need anything spectacular and just need something to mount to my skis (ARW 96)
 
14484198:Mingg said:
Because I’m lazy: can someone tell me a good 10-12 binding that’s cheap? I don’t ski as hard as I used to. I used to set my dins at 8(but pretty sure I technically should be at a 6.5 or something like that). Groomers and some powder runs when the opportunity presents itself. 10 day a year kinda skier. I really don’t need anything spectacular and just need something to mount to my skis (ARW 96)
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https://www.corbetts.com/head-attack2-13-gw-b95-green-bindings/

There you go. Priced in CAD so somewhere close to $115 USD.
 
14484201:mystery3 said:
https://www.corbetts.com/head-attack2-13-gw-b95-green-bindings/

There you go. Priced in CAD so somewhere close to $115 USD.
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+k for you ??
 
14484198:Mingg said:
Because I’m lazy: can someone tell me a good 10-12 binding that’s cheap? I don’t ski as hard as I used to. I used to set my dins at 8(but pretty sure I technically should be at a 6.5 or something like that). Groomers and some powder runs when the opportunity presents itself. 10 day a year kinda skier. I really don’t need anything spectacular and just need something to mount to my skis (ARW 96)
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14484201:mystery3 said:
https://www.corbetts.com/head-attack2-13-gw-b95-green-bindings/

There you go. Priced in CAD so somewhere close to $115 USD.
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seconded. if you just need a decent binding and you want it cheap, attack 12 or up is the ticket
 
14488960:mystery3 said:
What binding are you talking about? You're going to get hate if you're riding a NX or SPX or something. Try metal pivots.
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Every look binding is shit. I know a lot of guys who had look bindings and everybody found out that they are a piece of shit.
 
So if I got Tyrolia attack 14's, with properly adjusted forward pressure and AFD(wheelieing the boot back while doing the test card), DINs at 9(155lbs, 293 BSL), on v wides, should I worry about pre-release on butters? There doesn't really seem to be much holding the toe in(ft ascendant SC).

I don't want to get pivot 15's if I don't have to, but if I'm popping out all the time I'd regret not putting pivots on my new skis...

Please advise
 
on attack bindings when setting forward pressure, i know the middle of the marks on the tab is ideal but I'm either at 2 marks in on the looser end or the last mark on the tighter end. I have it set toward the looser since it's closer to the middle, does this matter? had a pretty release yesterday, AFD was a little low so I fixed that, was just curious about forward pressure as well.
 
I'll take a look at mine tomorrow, I leave them at work. But I'm pretty sure they're slightly off the middle of the notches, I'll see what direction. Turning my heel pieces from 7 to 9, and marking my afds with a sharpie to see if they loosen has been a big help. So far the 14's AFD seems like it wants to stay in the same spot I set it at so that's great.
 
14529917:Non_State_Actor said:
Fixed it for ya!
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I have a pair of pivots that has lived on 3 different skis now. Bought for 350, so $117/ski. I’ve also broken and had to replace a pair of tyrolias and a pair of markers.

why are you fuckers so afraid to pay a little bit more upfront for shit that lasts and saves you money long term?
 
14529946:AlmostCooler said:
I have a pair of pivots that has lived on 3 different skis now. Bought for 350, so $117/ski. I’ve also broken and had to replace a pair of tyrolias and a pair of markers.

why are you fuckers so afraid to pay a little bit more upfront for shit that lasts and saves you money long term?
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I'm not, i bought a pair of STH 13s a couple weeks ago for $120 nib. I've never broken a binding and find pivots to be unnecessarily fiddly. They're not only expensive to purchase up front but if you snap a brake you're out another $120.

I understand people like the feel of pivots and the metal ones are durable but this isn't just a straight cost benefit analysis.
 
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