Tf do people want in a swallow tail ski

nOtyRmOm

nOtyRmOm

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So with the swallow skis I’ve been designing for about a year now, I’m finally going all in on a press which means this summer I want to do a small production run? What are peoples thoughts on a softer flex vs a stiffer flex, for a surfy vs chargy feel? Damper or more pop? Obviously the market has over saturation so I’m trying to get as many ideas as possible before I dump all my time into this and my grades drastically suffer. Shape is 150-114-140

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I’d kill for a swallow tail with metal all across. I love my Pescado and how it surfs but as soon as it sees a bump, that 150 wide tip flexes too hard.
 
14498253:macfive said:
Curious what the reason for a swallow tail is?
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Gives ability to have longer affective edge because it can continue to end of the ski but the cutout allows for torsionall flex so edge can break free and smear easily while also allowing for reduced surface area so it floats better. Also looks dope
 
14498267:coloradoBruh said:
I’d kill for a swallow tail with metal all across. I love my Pescado and how it surfs but as soon as it sees a bump, that 150 wide tip flexes too hard.
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I’ve been thinking about experimenting with titanal, but right now it’s just carbon. I’ll yk if I go with metal at some point though
 
For swallow tails doesn’t really make sense to make a soft ski, I’d do a hard charging stiff ski that can get through anything
 
Keep on the playful side but don't overkill on soft imo

I could do some graphics for you in exchange for 75% off a pair, if you get to the point where you can do like a soft drop.

**This post was edited on Jan 13th 2023 at 1:18:43am
 
14498547:BrotherB said:
Keep on the playful side but don't overkill on soft imo

I could do some graphics for you in exchange for 75% off a pair, if you get to the point where you can do like a soft drop.

**This post was edited on Jan 13th 2023 at 1:18:43am
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i’ll do the same thing except instead i’ll just ride a couple pairs that you give to me for free and in exchange i don’t put a pressure cooker bomb in your car
 
i guess you really just have to consider what you want the ski to do. I've had a pair of pescados for 4 years and they are a perfectly soft pow slashing machine. they are alot of work on the legs in crud, but the tradeoff is they are a dream in fresh pow and can articulate/surface/slash so easily because of the tail cut out and the softness allowing the tail to sink and the ski to flex pushing the nose in the air. the things breach pow like an orca if you give a little ollie, its amazing.

make em stiff, they will charge harder in crud (with a longer sidecut) but will sacrifice some surfiness in the soft stuff, and in my mind lose some of the playfullness that really makes that swallow tail design unique.
 
If you’re banging these out and they’re not stupid expensive - I’d for sure cop a pair.

But I’d say surfy shape and feel with floppy tips and stable/stiffer underfoot to tail
 
use the y-beam titanal shape from current mindbenders

the 'bottom' of the y-shaped sheet of titanal should approach the dip of the swallowtail, while the outer edges of the swallowtail should remain all wood. then the edges of the swallow can still activate but the ski will have much more body
 
14498818:mattytru said:
use the y-beam titanal shape from current mindbenders

the 'bottom' of the y-shaped sheet of titanal should approach the dip of the swallowtail, while the outer edges of the swallowtail should remain all wood. then the edges of the swallow can still activate but the ski will have much more body
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Whu do I feel like I just read something really amazing?
 
I agree that I would like a stiffer tail. I've never skied a swallow tail ski so it's kinda hard to imagine, but I would think something soft would just allow the tails to wash out way easy, unless the mount point was close to center or something
 
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