arnie_grape
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13378479:cabdriver said:
aside from everything else about being american
Ted Cruz is running for President and is targeting the the lowest common denominator voters
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aside from everything else about being american
last_tango
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TL;DR but voting for president does not matter. Look up electoral collage.
GayWolf420
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13378479:cabdriver said:
I bet other countries just sit around and fucking laugh at us during election years, considering lots of potential candidates (thank fuck they didn't get far) were absolute blithering morons in the most recent elections.
We really have no one to blame but ourselves, though. Even with all their financial backings and donations, Its us, the Civilians, The great people of the United States that show up to voting booths every time and allow these dunces in office to run our cities and nation. Not to mention, we even give them tons of platforms and attention to share and spew their inane ideas, allowing them to acquire money/donations in order to run a campaign. We should just stop giving tards like Cruz the time of day, and let them go back to their irrelevant-ass small towns and states to work on cattle ordinances or some dumb shit.
The US isn't that bad of a place to live, its just unfortunate the dipshits outnumber everyone.
Byron_tha_gr8
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13377905:Dobber said:
That is the burden we have to carry as informed Americans.
And frenchy. He is also a burden, but even worse because he (and his equally ill informed peers) are an active weight, he is an anchor on societal progress.
13378422:Bombogenesis said:
I suppose technically you're right. However, a 13 year long hiatus doesn't mean climate change has ended.other parts of climate change have continued nonstop, such as seas level rises and melting of the ice caps. During this time there have also been multiple records set for extreme surface temperatures. National Academy of Sciences has reported that there has been no pause in climate change. Pretty sure they know more than you and your minor. Also, if you look back over the decades, there have been several little "pauses" before, so it's no evidence for climate change being halted. This pause is very misleading and in no way means climate change isn't still happening at full force. Nice!
Bombogenesis
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13378580:NickyToor said:
You're literally saying the same thing as me but the issue is you don't even realize it. It's weird.
All I was saying was if you're going to attack Cruz's statement, make sure it's actually factually inaccurate and you're talking out your ass. There are probably 1000 things he has said that are false yet people attacked something that has irrefutable truth behind it.
Do I think he's still a moron for being an all out denier? Yeah. Do I think he's a moron for saying the earths temperature has remained static for 15 years? Maybe his insinuation... Sure. But not the statement itself man. It's an accurate fact, like saying the earth is round. It'd backed up and accepted as truth by nearly everyone. Idk what more you can really say..:
Dobber
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13378570:Lord_Byron said:
Fucking grow a pair you sack of shit. You sound like a 70 year old woman. All you do is bitch about political this and political that. You honestly sound like the most boring human being alive. How many lame bumper stickers do you have on your prius?
milk_man
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^^Not sure how the discussion became about this..
It's not an either or situation. I don't understand why everyone makes it seem like it is. If you believe the Bible it doesn't mean you have to completely put down science, and if you have faith in science you don't have to sweep the Bible under the rug completely
It's not an either or situation. I don't understand why everyone makes it seem like it is. If you believe the Bible it doesn't mean you have to completely put down science, and if you have faith in science you don't have to sweep the Bible under the rug completely
Byron_tha_gr8
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13378602:Dobber said:
guns should be illegal.
13378760:milk_man said:
If you have "faith" in science, then you have to look at most parts of the bible as a bunch of fictional stories, not stuff that actually happened. Wasn't it the bible that caused you to deny science and believe the earth is 10000 years old as well as not believing in evolution?
13378760:milk_man said:
To you and other delusional people sure. To people who understand science, that disproves Jewish people lived in Egypt. That proves the earth was never flooded. That proves dead people can't be brought back to life, and that proves virgins can't have babies. No it can't be both.
S.J.W
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13377961:.frenchy said:
Obama only wants to give pardons to illegals that are the sole provider for a child. He's following international law. CROC, ever heard of it? Also America was built on immigration. Some illegal some not. Why do you think they call it the land of opportunity? Because anyone can go and make it for themselves.
Also illegals are a big force of the working population. So you tax them instead of letting them have everything. It's basic economics. Ted wants to make America great again? Start taxing the illegals. That's exactly what Obama is doing.
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/203984-illegal-immigrants-benefit-the-us-economy
Can we also argue about skiing and snowboarding since we're arguing about everything else?
What about condiments? Everyone hates on ketchup but I still like it so you can all get fucked.
What about condiments? Everyone hates on ketchup but I still like it so you can all get fucked.
cobra_commander
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Hey, look, its that time that comes around every-so-often when fuckheads on both sides threaten to leave the country, and somehow forget on their promise to leave if: Bush/Gore/Bush/Kerry/Obama/Macain/Obama/Romney/whosnext get fucking elected.
13378778:Lord_Byron said:
I fully disagree. And I'm liberal as shit.
If you live in the middle of bumfuck egypt Idaho, and you're not as badass as Ron Swanson, and you dont want to be attacked by bears or wolves or other murderous wildlife, then fuck yes, guns for sure.
But if you live in Flushing Queens or LoDo Denver or South LA or Central Miami, you don't exactly need a fucking AR15 in your apartment, buddy.
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That said, I think the happy medium is to be a badass and use a bow and arrow instead of a gun. Guns are for wimps who can't handle drawing a bow, or figuring out how to throw knives and use hidden blade attacks like an assassin or even how to load a crossbow.
Besides, everyone expects you to be defending your house with a gun. NOBODY expects you to use the Home Alone approach. Get creative. Guns are weak.
13378854:cobra_commander said:
I mean, if it happens, it's as good a time as any for me to become an Ex-pat. Already have abroad plans in 2016 anyway.
cobra_commander
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13378942:DingoSean said:
Good Bourbon is harder to come by outside our borders. I plan on drinking it long after Senator Cruz has departed American politics.
13378951:cobra_commander said:
See I'm not such a fan of Bourbon... I'm more for making stirred dry martinis with lemon twists, or drinking scotch on the rocks. Both of which are amply found outside of 'murica. I would miss the absolute superior beer selection that the USA has to offer, however...
The rest of the world has absolutely nothing on the American craft brew explosion of the last decade or two.
Many prominent figures deny global warming not because they truly believe it to be false, but because to accept it would force them to change their ways.
This describes literally every climate change denier in congress. They all know it's true and that it's destroying the planet, but have too many ties to fossil fuels among other things. admitting it was real would mean massive changes for them and their selfishness prevents them from doing it.
This describes literally every climate change denier in congress. They all know it's true and that it's destroying the planet, but have too many ties to fossil fuels among other things. admitting it was real would mean massive changes for them and their selfishness prevents them from doing it.
Byron_tha_gr8
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13378938:DingoSean said:
dude imagine crossbow drivebys. So silent, can't trace the arrow, its genius.
Byron_tha_gr8
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13379016:Uglyboy said:
rap video's will feature thugin g's reppin their latest spray painted and modded out longbow.
.frenchy
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13378295:DingoSean said:
I probably have more friends than you though.... That's just a dumb thing to say, but I don't expect much coming from you, to be honest.
^Waiting until this gets voted -10 or something^
TED CRUZ! TED CRUZ! TED CRUZ! TED CRUZZZZ
YEAAAAH BUDDY!!!! #VOTEGOP2016
#LIBERALS #SUK
:^)
.frenchy
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13378422:Bombogenesis said:
shrekt
13378440:VinnieF said:
Dude, the thing Ted Cruz said is exactly what you just pretty much admitted was right... All he said was the past 15 or so years the earth hasn't really warmed, so don't say he isn't right, omg your dad knows about this that means you must know everything there is about climate change!!!!
Soooo fucking funny that in every political thread on NS its 95% liberals. But half of the posters either A.) Cant vote yet or B.) aren't from the United States.... Hahahhaha.
corona
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13379085:.frenchy said:
ok, so I'll admit I didn't look up what he said or any of the data about warming not happening until now. I'm not an expert in the field of climate change but did take a healthy number of related classes over my university career. I do, however, know a thing or two about statistics. Now that I've actually looked at the data and what he said I can point out the massive flaw. (besides what I've already said about not being able to use a short term trend as a substitute for long term results)
So. I really have nothing better to do here so I'll make this take an embarrassing amount of time.
Here's a fictional data sequence to work with:
random sequence of numbers between 0 and 30 sorted from lowest to highest. there's no disagreeing about the trend.
Now let's put an anomaly in the data.
If one sill looks at the data as a whole a single outlier won't really make much difference to a large data set, the r2 value will be lower, but that's about it. You can still safely assume the trend you see to be correct.
The danger is then when you focus in on one small section of a data set and say that the trend you see in that area is correct without looking at any of the data to either side. So if you focus in on the the section starting from the outlier and onwards it will look something like this:
Look the data shows there is no more upward trend. The slope of the regression is pretty much zero.
Does this mean the trend seen over the whole of the data has stopped? Of course not. 1 anomaly just makes it appear that way when looking at the data from that point forward.
A better way to represent the data (which is used in climate sciences) might be to do a moving average. So for each point along the x-axis an average will be represented for the past x amount of y values. For our data let's use 5. This is what you'd use to more or less smooth out data, primarily data over time, so it gets rid of the noise of short term trends caused by anomalies and such.
Then you get something like this:
So we can zoom in on any particular range we want and still get a far more accurate representation of the trend at that point. For instance we can now focus on the last portion of the data and get a good idea of what the trend is actually doing at this point.
So how does all this matter at all? Well turns out 1998 is an anomaly year. An El Nino year that just doesn't fit in since it was far warmer than one would expect. So, like in our example, you can start looking from 1998 onwards and make it seem like there is no warming trend.
To rectify this you can just look at the moving average (10 years is pretty common in climate science I just found out), and you can get something like this:
look from 1998 onwards.
It also helps explain why 9 of the last 10 hottest years on record have been since 1998. 1998 filling out the 10 at number 4. Also that the 2000's has been the hottest decade on record.
It's really a matter of data interpretation. It's super easy to lie with statistics, and saying warming has stopped because you're looking at data starting from 1998 is a good example of how to do that.
Anyways, take this as you will. Just wasting my time on the internet, it was between this or porn.
plyswthsqrrls
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13377687:NickyToor said:
but you didn't say you would "rather" have your candidate win, you said they would be better, in pretty black and white terms. There is a difference
I'm also really curious as to where you get your news from that is completely politically unbiased, because I refuse to believe that such a network exists. Unless you're 16 year old self is out there in DC digging for the truth and asking all the tough questions. will I see you at the white house for Obama's next address?
.frenchy
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props to Vinnie for writing that out... You have some good points.
Either way, Cruz won't be the guy running against Hillary. So I really don't care all too much, I just agree with a good chunk of his views. I do believe there is climate change though, so all you saying i'm a moron because I don't believe in climate change can just stahp.
I think everyone in here kept it classy except for Dingo, DingoTheDouche strikes again!
Either way, Cruz won't be the guy running against Hillary. So I really don't care all too much, I just agree with a good chunk of his views. I do believe there is climate change though, so all you saying i'm a moron because I don't believe in climate change can just stahp.
I think everyone in here kept it classy except for Dingo, DingoTheDouche strikes again!