yah there was a 30ft flat box drop to 20ft flatbox again at northstar that was just a tinyy bit slanted on the first box but not on the second so you had to get on it on a tailpress and by the end you would be nosepressing it, it was super hard to stay on the whole time because everyone was trying to get on normal, but after a couple tries on it i figured youd have to tailpress it, and it worked fine for the rest of the time.